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Raytheon's Riot Program Mines Social Network Data For Intelligence Agencies

Shipud writes "Raytheon has secretly developed software capable of tracking people's movements and predicting future behavior by mining data from social networking websites according to The Guardian. An 'extreme-scale analytics' system created by Raytheon, the world's fifth largest defense contractor, can gather vast amounts of information about people from websites including Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare. Raytheon says it has not sold the software — named Riot, or Rapid Information Overlay Technology — to any clients. But the company has acknowledged the technology was shared with U.S. government and industry as part of a joint research and development effort, in 2010, to help build a national security system capable of analyzing 'trillions of entities' from cyberspace. The power of Riot to harness popular websites for surveillance offers a rare insight into controversial techniques that have attracted interest from intelligence and national security agencies, at the same time prompting civil liberties and online privacy concerns."

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  1. Re:sample data by Dan667 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    facebook would probably sell it to them cheap if they asked.

  2. do they mean by mjwalshe · · Score: 2

    people singular or people en mass? Calculating statistically what a group might do might work but an individual that is a big ask)

    1. Re:do they mean by EvilSS · · Score: 2

      Might be why no one has bought it yet. How many terrorists use four-square for check-ins (something called out by the article when talking about tracking) or social media at all? I guess the really dumb ones but still...

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  3. easy solution by msheekhah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just don't post location data or activities if you're engaging in protests... disable location services on your phone. You're giving data to a public database and then crying about privacy... just don't give them information.

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    1. Re:easy solution by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just don't post location data or activities if you're engaging in protests... disable location services on your phone. You're giving data to a public database and then crying about privacy... just don't give them information.

      How can you be sure that everyone who's participating in that same protest followed your advice?

      They don't need the information you post if they already have the information other people post about you.

    2. Re:easy solution by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not the protest itself that is secret, but the planning. The point of spying on activists before they stage a protest is to crack down on the protest, to spread propaganda just before the protest, to move important meetings away from the protest site, etc.

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  4. Precrime! by jamstar7 · · Score: 2

    Anybody else get a flashback to 'Minority Report'?

    The raging paranoid in me says this is a Very Bad Thing that will end up with politicians refusing to relinquish power by passing laws arresting people for 'crimes' they might commit based on this statistical analysis, followed up by lists of new 'crimes' demanding 'harsh penalties' covered by these same new laws. Aggrivated littering and felony loitering, anyone?

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  5. Re:sample data by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're assuming that they need access to private data on Facebook to make this work. Between the lack of people fine-tuning their privacy settings, and the ability of other users to note what one is doing even if one doesn't share such information, and it's no surprise that they can develop this software.

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  6. forest and tree analogy by vlm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    tracking people's movements and predicting future behavior

    Time for a forest and tree analogy. On a rounding basis, the masses have historically never done anything terribly exciting, important, or relevant. So paying intense attention to them is a waste of resources. Its always the 10% or less who actually influence history. If we made all predictions based on the median joe 6 pack couch potato, we'd still be british subjects, we'd still be in control of independent south vietnam, iraq and afghanistan would be fully pacified, blah blah blah.

    I don't think that knowing 30% of the population liked the most recent american idol episode is actionable intelligence information in either the short, medium, or long term. Imagine a squad about to deploy on a mission in Iraq being told that the best help intel can provide today is that 15% of active facebook users like listening to Bieber. Umm, thanks guys, on to the next briefing.

    Its a self blinding technology, not an enlightening technology. I'm sure its highly profitable for contractors of course.

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    1. Re:forest and tree analogy by DoraLives · · Score: 2

      Actually, having a crystal clear picture of what the Great Swarm is doing provides an exquisitely crisp background against which one can pick out very fine details indeed when it comes to excursions from that background.

      It's the excursions that they're looking for and keeping a close eye upon.

      As the detail of the background becomes sharper and sharper, so too does detail of the excursions.

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    2. Re:forest and tree analogy by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      On a rounding basis, the masses have historically never done anything terribly exciting, important, or relevant. So paying intense attention to them is a waste of resources.

      Welcome to 2013 - where the resources (to collect and process the data) may seem massive, but they're dirt cheap. The waste is far less than you seem to think.
       

      Its always the 10% or less who actually influence history.

      True. And if you have a better way of finding the 10% than sifting through everyone looking for pointers to the 10% or for the 10% themselves... A life of wealth (or on the run) awaits you, because 'they' have been looking for an easy way to do that for centuries. If you don't have a better way (as I suspect), you're just blowing smoke because you neither understand the problem *or* the solution.

  7. R.I.O.T. sourcecode by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 4, Funny

    #!/bin/bash

    while [ 1 ]; do
       wget -q https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews -O /tmp/aa1.txt
       wget -q https://plus.google.com/117604887745850959716 -O /tmp/aa2.txt
       wget -q http://anonnews.org/ -O /tmp/aa3.txt

       egrep '(meetup|protest|flashmob|operation|torrent|TPB)' /tmp/aa*txt | mail -s '+0p 53cr3tz' opswatch@raytheon.com
       sleep 300
    done

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    1. Re:R.I.O.T. sourcecode by DeTech · · Score: 2

      It Raytheon... It's gonna have to be a dos script.

  8. psychohistory by schneidafunk · · Score: 2

    Calculating statistically what a group might do

    I believe you are referring to psychohistory from 'The Foundation' by Isaac Asimov.

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    1. Re:psychohistory by interval1066 · · Score: 2

      Calculating statistically what a group might do

      I believe you are referring to psychohistory from 'The Foundation' by Isaac Asimov.

      I believe you are referring to the behavioral research of Skinner, Watson, Hull, Tolman, et. al.

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    2. Re:psychohistory by schneidafunk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The first reference to it was in 1942 by Asimov.

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  9. YARNTDFB by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

    Yet Another Reason Not To Do FaceBook.

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    1. Re:YARNTDFB by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yet Another Reason Not To Do FaceBook.

      And Twitter, Foursquare, and the rest of the so-called "social" web. Anyway, if they're interested in finding terrorists and whatnot, they should probably look elsewhere. If they're interested in picking up stuff to use against their own citizens (Stasi-style), then they're probably on the right track.

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  10. Programmer ethics? by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've often wondered about the programmers who write these software packages.

    The stereotype programmer is young, bright, scientific, idealistic, and concerned for global issues.

    And yet, big companies have no problem staffing teams to write the software for predator drones, Carnivore, Total Information Awareness, and other packages which are used to violate human rights.

    Where do these "programmers of dubious character" come from?

    Many programmers say (when I ask) that they have high moral standards - more so than (they say) the average person. And yet, they work on all sorts of sketchy things.

    Can anyone explain the disconnect? Is there a level of "bravery" associated with morality (ie - I'm against *this*, but not willing to lose my job over it)? Are moral arguments here (for example) just blowing smoke?

    1. Re:Programmer ethics? by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, you have two data points. The existence of all sorts of software designed to take advantage of information easily available on the internet, and a 'feeling' that programmers possess some special moral character. The answer to this conflict is obvious.

      The idea that programmers have some special moral character is nonsense.

  11. Re:sample data by St.Creed · · Score: 2

    It's not intended for people like Chris D.

    It's intended to gauge the sentiments of the masses, to warn the local rulers before the uprising starts. I'm pretty sure they have a pretty good market in the Middle East right now. It doesn't do anything about lone killers or terrorists.

    This reeks of "schleppnetzfahndung", a term used to describe the use of similar data by the West German police to combat terrorism in the 70's. It did catch a couple of terrorists. It also got tens of thousands of citizens banned from working in all kinds of jobs, because they had the wrong friends, read the wrong papers or were members of the wrong trade union. For a lot of people, that seemed to be the main reason to use that method. It certainly had a very chilling impact on dissidents.

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