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CES: Tiny Fuel Cell is Supposed to Charge a Cell Phone for Two Weeks (Video)

Many of us have plug-in external batteries of one sort to recharge our smart phones when we're away from power outlets. Or we have gigantic aftermarket batteries that make our phones so fat they barely fit in our pockets. So there is this company, Lilliputian Power Systems, that is just starting to market a tiny, butane-powered fuel cell they call the Nectar that plugs into your cell phone (or whatever) through a USB port and supposedly charges it for up to two weeks. That's a lot better than an add-on battery. It looks expensive, although the power "pods" aren't too pricey at $19.99 for two. But wait a minute: Why aren't fuel cells, not internal combustion engines, the "range extenders" in plug-in hybrid cars? A decade back, fuel cells were going to revolutionize our power delivery and consumption systems. A cell phone charger is cute, but is that really all we can get fuel cells to do?

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  1. Because: Patents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We'll all eventually have cheap fuel cell chargers, but not for about another 20 years or so when the developers are sure they wont get patent-trolled for releasing a product.

    1. Re:Because: Patents. by pieterh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yup. Don't know why your comment modded down. Whenever you see a promising area of technology stagnate and stop moving for 20 years, then pick up magically, it's patents.

  2. Scale matters by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Interesting
    As to why you can't power a car with them, scale matters. Some electrical sources work great at providing a trickle charge over hours, but can't power a car, even if you put 1000 of them in sequence or serial.

    Sometimes it's a heat issue, sometimes it's weight, sometimes its some other physics law.

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    1. Re:Scale matters by Digital+Pizza · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A few years ago I read of research being done by General Motors (I think) about using a gasoline-powered fuel cell, a process that although still using gasoline, would be far more efficient and clean compared to burning it, and of course there would be no problem refueling.

      I wonder whatever happened to that project?

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    2. Re:Scale matters by Lije+Baley · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Studies show that Reality is a leading cause of failure in the development of promising technologies.

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  3. Butane by ravenscar · · Score: 4, Informative

    To answer the question of "Why aren't fuel cells, not internal combustion engines, the "range extenders" in plug-in hybrid cars?" posed in the TFS...

    In this case, the fuel cell is powered by butane. Butane is not readily available, in pure form, in large, easily transferable quantities all over the world. Gasoline, however, is. I understand that butane itself isn't rare, but the ability to get a fair quantity of it safely into my vehicle in a few minutes is.

  4. Bloody hell.... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    "A dead battery means important missed calls and emails, no GPS when you’re lost, no e-reader on your train ride, no communication in an emergency, and an overall feeling of dread and anxiety."

    Yes, they actually say that. May I be the first to recommend spending less on fancing charging gadgets and more on anxiolytic lifestyle aids, like benzodiazepines or heavy drinking?

  5. Butane, huh? by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, that means I should be able to go down to the tobacco shop, get a can of compressed lighter fluid, and refill the charger on the cheap, right?

    No? You're telling me I have to go buy proprietary cartridges that will, without doubt, cost far more than a can of commercial butane?

    Yea, you can shove that over-priced, over-hyped bullshit right where the sun don't shine, Bucko.

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  6. Re:Smartphone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    We with real Smartphones just switch the internal battery with one of our dozen full ones.

    Not always. At my company we've got our web server (with online shop) running on a Nokia N900. The idea was to lower our electricity costs by having employees charge the phone at libraries and bus stations, where we'd just look like ordinary people and no one would suspect business use. Anyway, turning the phone off to change the battery would result in downtime that we can't afford. An external battery pack has proved a lifesaver in cases where we couldn't find a free outlet in time.

  7. Re:Small print by Phasma+Felis · · Score: 4, Informative

    The actual small print: $19.99 is for the power cells. The charger that the cells and your phone plug in to doesn't even have a price listed yet, which probably means it costs hundreds. Oh, and it's also not available yet, and pre-orders are sold out.

    Slashdot fact-checking fails again. Great job, guys!

  8. stupidly dangerous by slashmydots · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have a 1500mAh battery pack module with a full-sized USB port and a power-pin-only 5-pin USB micro cable, 4" long, in my jacket pocket at all times. So it's a reserve battery for any device and it'll charge 1 phone or 1/4 of 1 tablet or some portion of a GPS unit but so what? On the other side, it has a solar panel and a charging indicator, that's what! Take that, pocket full of unstable, flammable gas. So solar panel vs butane....yeah, I'll stick with my solution, thanks. In direct sunlight, it doesn't take real long to recharge the entire battery pack either. Yeah, I'm out of luck at night but considering I can get 21 days of idle runtime on my Samsung R640 on one charge from this reserve battery, I think I can find some sunlight after depleting it.

    I believe I heard this Nectar device exceeds $300, or so they stated at CES. Mine cost $17 and it's from Scosche, which makes decent products.

  9. Re:Smartphone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Typical slashdot. Baths are supposed to be intentional, and frequent, not accidental.

  10. Re:Small print by hawguy · · Score: 4, Informative

    And to answer the question in the article:

    "Why aren't fuel cells, not internal combustion engines, the "range extenders" in plug-in hybrid cars?

    It's because electric cars use a *lot* of power - this is the same reason electric cars don't come with solar panels on the roof so you never need to charge them - it takes a lot of energy to charge an electric car.

    Since the power cells cost $20, they must contain more than fuel, they probably include some consumable electrodes or membranes.

    The fuel cells are are rated to produce 55Wh (with 2.5W maximum draw).

    A Nissan Leaf goes 73 miles on its 24KWh battery pack - so that's 328 Watt-Hours per mile.

    It would take about 6 of these $20 power cells to power your car for one mile or $120 (though you may need 150 of these chargers in parallel to generate enough power).

    Even if you assume a 90% drop in price when scaling this up to car size, that's still $12 per mile.

    I've seen refrigerator-sized, $20,000 natural gas fuel cells for powering (and heating) your home, but if you're going to power your car from natural gas, why not just make it a hybrid that uses an natural gas powered engine instead of an electric car that has a bulky and expensive natural gas powered fuel cell?