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Planetary Resources To 'Claim' Asteroids With Beacons

kkleiner writes "Planetary Resources last year boldly claimed that they would build a futuristic business out of mining space asteroids. To that end, the firm recently completed the Arkyd-100 satellite prototype. The satellite will use its telescope to look for suitable near-Earth asteroids from low-Earth orbit. Later expeditions will rocket out to prospective real estate, do spectral analysis, and if the asteroid contains valuable resources, lay claim with a beacon."

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  1. Not legally enforceable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not legally enforceable, which in many ways is a shame. Until money can be made through space travel, it will never "take off"...

    Mod informative, flamebait or funny

  2. International traties by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not only not enforceable: I always thought that there were treaties against this, as in no private company from any country can claim anything outside the atmosphere without some sort of international agreement. See Outer Space Treaty.

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    1. Re:International traties by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So just incorporate in e.g. Lithuania, which is not party to the treaty.

    2. Re:International traties by jythie · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but then you depend on Lithuania to defend your claim.

      While the US might have issues, one can claim that the federal government can be pretty aggressive in protecting its citizen's interests in the international arena. Register your claim through the US, and it is backed by the US.

    3. Re:International traties by jmauro · · Score: 5, Funny

      Probably not since there wasn't a person called Merriam Webster name is from the Merriam publishing company's purchase of the Webster dictionary publishing license after the death of Daniel Webster.

      A Webster, yes. Two different Merriams, yes. A Merriam Webster, no.

    4. Re:International traties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I thought corporations were people. Can't they roll over in their grave, too?

    5. Re:International traties by iroll · · Score: 2

      How about confiscating your financial resources back on earth, and convincing friendly nations to do the same?

      It's not like the US has to send law enforcement officers to every foreign country, either.

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    6. Re:International traties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about dropping a 1,000,000 tonne rock on the UN building. Orbital bombardment is ten tenths of the law.

  3. Mandate Black Boxes by Luthair · · Score: 3, Funny

    So I know whose asteroid crashed into my house.

  4. Re:Manifest Destiny/ by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

    Luckily, this time there aren't any natives to genocide.

  5. Re:Manifest Destiny/ by JustOK · · Score: 2

    got proof of that?

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  6. International Asteroid Registry by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    This Valentine's day, give your mistress the gift that's out of this world. Claim an asteroid for her...

  7. Why not mine what we already have? by mknewman · · Score: 2

    Why bother mining asteroids when there is a bunch of pre-refined materials floating in LEO. Re-refine the materials in Proton boosters, non-functional satellites and such. Stop throwing used up stuff back into the atmosphere to burn up. Build a refinery at the Space Station.

    1. Re:Why not mine what we already have? by medcalf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Two reasons. The first is that the volume of materials in orbit is really, really tiny. The second is that each of these different types of space junk would require (potentially) different processing techniques, equipment and so forth. Even discounting property issues, those simply make the idea financially insane. So I expect some national government somewhere will certainly try it at some point.

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  8. Re:A bit hard to enforce.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just because you choose space as the place to do something shitty doesn't mean you won't have to answer for it here.

    Mighty big talk from someone sitting at the bottom of a gravity well.

  9. Re:A bit hard to enforce.... by Joehonkie · · Score: 4, Informative
  10. Beacons are unnecessary. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    All they need to do is lick each one. Any four-year-old knows that.

  11. Re:A bit hard to enforce.... by Guspaz · · Score: 2

    Yes. Better than on earth, in fact. The gunpowder already contains the oxidizer and there isn't any atmosphere that the bullet has to push out of the way. Muzzle velocities will be higher.

  12. Been done before by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2

    People have been camping things in MMOs for years.

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  13. "This book must be out of date" by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    I'm pretty sure Grand Fenwick isn't a signatory either. IMO, a much more appropriate choice.

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  14. Will this be like patent trolling? by thelovebus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On the one hand, mineral claims have a long history and seem to have worked decently.

    On the other hand, how do we prevent an unscrupulous company from doing just enough work to *claim* these asteroids, with no intention of actually following through and mining them. Then, acting as a rent-seeker when another company actually does try to mine the resources?

  15. Lame by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Look, I don't care if you plant a flag or a beacon on some asteroid, if I can actually build a spaceship that can go and grab it and mine it before you do, your shit out of luck. I'll just kick your little beacon off, or move it to something else that has no value. What are you going to do about it?

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  16. Eddie Izzard reference by PhxBlue · · Score: 2

    Do they have a flag?

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  17. Re:A bit hard to enforce.... by Tuidjy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The first shot will be even better than the one you'd get on Earth. The power already contains the oxidants the combustion needs, and there will be no air resistance.

    The rest of the shot are trickier. If the gun is an automatic, and has not been modified, you may need to chamber the rounds manually, because the lack of air resistance may mess up the automatic action.

    If the gun is a revolver, you will be able to fire all chambers as usual, but the gun will be only cooling by radiating heat AND through the contact with your gloves. That may become uncomfortable rather quickly.

    And of course, you may have problems with recoil. Unless you have anchored yourself rather well, you will start moving in very complex way, especially if you do not fire the bullet along a line passing through your center of mass and the end of the barrel.

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  18. Re:A bit hard to enforce.... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    The USSR tested on aboard one of their military space stations.

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  19. Re:Manifest Destiny/ by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 2

    Well, half the thread is about how well revolvers work in space and how to most efficiently shoot someone there.... I don't think that some people have advanced civilizationally in any significant manner, do you?

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  20. Re:A bit hard to enforce.... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

    abundant compared to on the surface of the planet we call home. many of those iron/nickel asteroids have more of each than has been mined in the entirety of human existence.

    Isn't that quite an understatement? Just look at 16 Psyche. I believe that the amount would be sufficient to cover the whole planet with a layer of steel.five meter thick. Can you spell "Trantor"? :-)

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  21. Re:A bit hard to enforce.... by skegg · · Score: 2

    even if the bullet does not puncture it will still send you flying away at high velocity

    The shooter or the target?