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Got a Cell Phone Booster? FCC Says You Have To Turn It Off

First time accepted submitter Dngrsone writes "Some two million people have bought cell-phone wireless signal boosters and have been using them to get better communication between their phones and distant cell towers. But now, the FCC says they all have to turn their boosters off and ask permission from their providers, and register their devices with those providers, before they can turn them back on."

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  1. *sigh* by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, great. More bullshit.

  2. Booster sticker by adam.voss · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do I turn off my as seen on TV signal boosting sticker?

    1. Re:Booster sticker by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      How do I turn off my as seen on TV signal boosting sticker?

      You use a waterproof felt tip pen to draw a switch in the "off" position onto the sticker.

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  3. HA!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll turn my booster off when the FCC forces cellular companies to provide better coverage. Until then, they can both bite me.

  4. makes some sense by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Devices transmitting in the regulated bands (as opposed to unregulated space like the Wifi spectrum) have to meet & be tested for certain noninterference properties, which is only valid if they're used unmodified. A provider could get a device+addon combination certified, however.

    1. Re:makes some sense by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately people get really pissy when a regulation takes away some advantage they have over other people using the shared resource. It is kinda like those triggers that turn red lights green, when a few people are using them it isn't a huge deal and the people love the devices, but as they become more common it starts to degrade the whole system. Granted the FCC might be jumping the gun a bit here, but conceptually this is pretty in line with what they are supposed to be doing for once.

    2. Re:makes some sense by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It actually does make sense - the carriers hold the licenses for using the spectrum these boosters are boosting, they paid a lot of money to use those spectrum licenses.

      Thus, you must get the permission of the license holder before you can use that portion of the spectrum.

    3. Re:makes some sense by satch89450 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      If you have ever been involved with regulated radio, the regulation " Carriers must approve of the use of each and every one of these boosters" makes perfect sense.

      The introduction of a repeater into a cell system means that the engineering of the cell boundaries can be affected. Now, for boosters that are used in building that shield the RF, there is little engineering that needs to be done -- you are essentially extending the antenna outside the shield. (And you can get repeater antennas without boosters that do the same job, and I suspect they are *not* covered by this regulation.)

      When you have an active repeater, that means the cell signals from the provider can be relayed as well as the signals from your cell phone. With microcell design, this can play hob with the clearances, so that a phone will see two cell site courtesy of your repeater.

      I'm not an expert on cell systems, but I remember some of the arguments used to keep people from using cell phones from airplanes.

    4. Re:makes some sense by wolrahnaes · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ham operator and armchair lawyer here.

      Part 15.5 basically says that unlicensed radio operation is a best-effort thing. If the spectrum you want to use is already taken up to a point that it makes it unusable for you, too bad, you have no right to complain. Where allowed, unlicensed operation is the lowest possible priority. A licensed user can shut you down if you interfere with them, but if someone moves in next door to you with an old cordless phone or crappy microwave which knocks out your WiFi when in use you just have to deal with it.

      In general the FCC's priority goes like this:

      1. Military
      2. Licensed Government
      3. Licensed Commercial
      4. Licensed Amateur
      0. Unlicensed

      The military pretty much gets what they want, then below that if there's a conflict between licensed parties where both have privileges on a band it tends to go in the order listed. Unlicensed users are then left to fight amongst themselves over the scraps.

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    5. Re:makes some sense by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But the only reason for using one is to make use of the service that I already pay for. If they are going to refuse my efforts to make their system work for me, I should have an automatic penalty free exit oppretunity from any/all contracts.

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  5. What? Turn it off? It ain't got a switch! by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Funny
    What do you mean I have to turn it off? The cell phone booster I got ain't got an off switch. Sounds funny, but to get this cell phone booster is so thin it fits between the battery and the inside of the battery cover. I was really lucky because they had a promotion going and this 30 .. 40 or even 50$ value booster was on sale at 19$ and I was fast enough to call them within the next 10 minutes and got the second one for free, just paid S&H alone for the second one.

    This amazing cell phone booster works on all brands. It looks like a sticker with weird tattoo image like log printed on it. All I have to do is to open the battery cover and stick it to the inside of that cover. That is all. I am guaranteed to get four bars on the antenna no matter where I go. I itching to get my hands on this thing, I would like to rub it in the face of my friends who are paying big bucks for brand name companies like Verizon, AT&T and T-mobile. My cell phone provider just charges me 10$ and his coverage map does not include my home. But, they don't know about this amazing cell phone booster. It is going to be sweet baby!, so I thought.

    Suddenly this big government is thrusting its nose where it is none of its business and is banning the cell phone booster. What am I going to do?

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    1. Re:What? Turn it off? It ain't got a switch! by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Funny

      DO NOT eat the booster. The signal is too clear. So clear. Too clear. I lost mine in a bag of chips and I didn't realise I had swallowed it until I started communing with other people's body thetans.

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    2. Re:What? Turn it off? It ain't got a switch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your a moron.

      Thank you for this, it's easily the funniest thing I'll read this week.

  6. Completely agree with this... by Controlio · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...and I'll give you a perfect example of what they're trying to fight. I work in a stadium, in an area covered by 15-20 different "cell towers" (real towers, DAS, COWs, etc). The TV production crew works in one or more 53' aluminum expando trailers. Depending on how they're grounded, a lot of them make pretty impressive Faraday Cages - meaning cell phone and radio services are terrible inside them. Some of the TV truck engineers have installed active cell repeaters to help combat this, but of course forget if they have them turned on or not.

    A TV truck came to town during an NFL game, they happened to be a truck whose engineers I'm close friends with and I happen to be aware that they run a repeater. During the game I hear reports of cell network issues. I'm walking through a service area only to find a guy with a spectrum analyzer waiving a directional antenna around the halls. I ask him what he's doing, and he says that six cell towers have been completely shut down due to some interference and it's making cell phone communication nearly impossible. (There is a baseball park next door. This can easily lead to tragedy when you have 100,000+ cell phones on the same street corner and no way to call out due to interference and capacity bottlenecks.)

    I asked the engineer if he knew when the interference started, he said about 8am Saturday. He said it went away for a while, but then started up again at about 6am on game day. This is the exact schedule the TV trucks were powered up. I tell him to hang on, go to the truck engineers, and ask them if their repeater is on. I tell them to pull it, walk back in to the engineer, and ask how the towers are doing. He says everything seems to be fine now, and asks me what the issue was. I tell him it's taken care of, and walk away.

    One cell repeater, left on accidentally in a densely populated area, effectively shut down communications at two major sporting events. They seem like a great idea, but they amplify so much noise at such a high power that they blow regular cell users who can't reach the repeater out of the water. I've seen it happen, and I'm glad the FCC is doing something about it.

  7. Could this article be more misleading? by kelemvor4 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I doubt it. The article, and the summary in particular is spreading quote a bit of fud. Specifically, the FCC does not say you have to turn anything off. Most of the questions people are posting about research is answered on the document linked right on the homepage of fcc.gov. Here, since most seem to lazy: https://www.fcc.gov/ or specifically: https://www.fcc.gov/document/use-and-design-signal-boosters-report-and-order Here's an important excerpt:

    In order to use a Consumer Signal Booster, a consumer must:
    Have some form of consent from his/her wireless provider to operate the Consumer
    Signal Booster. We note that Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T, and the RTG
    member companies have made voluntary commitments to consent to all Consumer Signal
    Boosters that meet the Network Protection Standard.42 Therefore, we expect that
    subscribers of these companies will not need to specifically seek consent from these
    providers, or other providers who make similar “blanket” consent commitments, for
    Consumer Signal Boosters that meet the Network Protection Standard.

    So, consent is needed, and most providers have already given blanket consent.

    Maybe the boys over at ARS didn't bother to read anything other than the limited FAQ, either? Or more likely they did like any "news" organization and selectively picked out the pieces that would get them the most hits on their website regardless of how they were bending the truth.

    1. Re:Could this article be more misleading? by kelemvor4 · · Score: 5, Informative

      So, consent is needed, and most providers have already given blanket consent.

      Citation needed.

      Are you trolling? I did post the citation. Here it is again: https://www.fcc.gov/document/use-and-design-signal-boosters-report-and-order

  8. Booster Trouble... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    So about five years ago everyone in the office was complaining about how they had "No Service" on their cell phones... so I went ahead and installed a "booster"-- an outdoor antenna with amp connected to an indoor antenna.

    A few months later, some gentlemen from "AT&T Security" showed up at my office and told me they had been trying to diagnose problems with their nearby tower for several months... until they spotted the outdoor antenna on my building, and aimed some sort of gadget at it and discovered it to be a booster. They said the problem was that their antenna system was seeing the increased signal strength of my booster antenna as if their system was receiving strong signals from cell phones in the neighborhood, and their system was automatically lowering its output signal strength, causing users in the area to have dropped calls and poor connections...

    They told me that legally they, as a carrier, had priority on the cell spectrum and I had no choice but to turn off or be fined. So if someone's booster is interfering with public cell use, they WILL hunt you down and pry it from your cold, dead hands.

  9. Re:I'll get right on that by cod3r_ · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yah.. I'm inclined to say "or else what?" Have fun chasing down those oilfield trucks that are 30 miels in the brush illegally using cell phone boosters!

  10. Re:When government is involved-everything is polit by causality · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When government is involved, everything is political. From the control of the airwaves to scientific research.

    Freedom means being free and switching the channel if you don't like the F-work.

    Consumerism and the way mass-media is done* has bred a dominant culture of intellectual and emotional babies. They're stuck at an infantile mentality and the surest sign of it is the unwillingness to take personal responsibility. A form of this personal failing is like this: "it's not good enough that *I* don't engage in an activity I disagree with - no one else should do it either!" This pathological inability to be satisfied with anything less than such options not being present at all is a complete rejection of even the slightest self-determinism. It's like these people don't even trust themselves not to watch, read, listen to, or engage in something they find distasteful.

    They demand some authority to do this selection for them, and of course authorities are only too happy to find another growth area for their power. They look for it the same way businesses look to expand into new markets. Power instead of money is just a different form of currency. Usually "for the children" provides a good excuse, which again goes back to personal responsibility; it is a rejection of the idea that parents should actually be parents and be involved in what their children are exposed to. Soon enough the whole concept will be deemed absurd and wishful thinking, despite the generations before who did exactly that.

    It's scary to consider that we are rapidly becoming a culture that conceives of freedom as being too bothersome. After all, real freedom means that other people might do things you wouldn't do yourself. Allowing consenting adults (and only those) to do such things would mean, most of all, believing in the power of your own counter-example if you really find some thing (drugs, curse words, whatever) so offensive. It would also mean having the emotional maturity to let go of the need to control other people, to be content living your own life as you see fit and giving others the tolerance and space to do the same.

    This is what we're losing. It's no bargain because I have yet to see what we're gaining.


    * Mass media doesn't inherently influence people to be shallow and stupid. It's one of those "corporations make more money that way" sort of deals. Governments also find it more convenient to rule over a population that won't question anything too deeply. Then the candidate who wins is usually the one with the most money to spend on advertising.

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  11. Re:I'll get right on that by Dishevel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To put it succinctly ... Fuck the FCC
     

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