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White House Petition To Make Unlocking Phones Legal Passes 100,000 Signatures

An anonymous reader writes "A White House petition to make unlocking cell phones legal again has passed the 100,000 signature mark. Passing the milestone means the U.S. government has to issue an official response. On January 26th, unlocking a cell phone that is under contract became illegal in the U.S. Just before that went into effect, a petition was started at whitehouse.gov to have the Librarian of Congress revisit that decision. 'It reduces consumer choice, and decreases the resale value of devices that consumers have paid for in full. The Librarian noted that carriers are offering more unlocked phones at present, but the great majority of phones sold are still locked.'"

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  1. 2nd story about how cell copmanies suck today. by F34nor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Break them up or replace them with a state run monopoly. Discuss.

    1. Re:2nd story about how cell copmanies suck today. by keytoe · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Because state-run monopolies are famous for low prices, excellent customer service, and being at the forefront of technological advance.

      My utilities board is a 'state run monopoly' and does a fantastic job of keeping prices low, customer service responsive and is constantly looking at new technical ways to save me even more money. They provide incentives to motivate people to adopt higher efficiency heating and insulation, driving overall demand down and reducing the environmental footprint of the entire community. A private company would have no incentive whatsoever to do any of that.

      I guess I don't see the advantage to having a corrupt corporation not looking out for me over a corrupt government not looking out for me. I can't change the corporation, but I can at least try to change the government. Both options seem to have roughly the same success rate overall, so why not support the one that gives me a voice?

  2. We should not need a petition by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why is the government protecting a business model that is based on selling equipment at a loss?

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    1. Re:We should not need a petition by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why is the government protecting a business model that is based on selling equipment at a loss?

      In business, it's called a loss leader.

      But don't worry, they'll more than make up for it with the price gouging which takes place over the term of your contract.

      But, really, this comes down to "do I own the phone or does the phone company". If I own it, I should be able to do anything I want with it. If I don't own it, WTF am I doing paying for it?

      Right now companies want to have this mixed model where I pay for it, but they tell me what I can and can't do with it.

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    2. Re:We should not need a petition by F34nor · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is always cheaper to buy a congressman than to be a better business. Telcos are oligopolies; the worst form of business for the consumers. From that basic cluster fuck all other pain flows.

  3. Nothing will happen by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Obama administration, no matter how many accusations regarding some sort of "Socialism" get lobbed at it, is a *corporatist* White House. It's only slightly less corporatist than the Bush Jr and Clinton admins.

    Nothing will happen. The corporate cheerleaders and know nothings thinks this somehow protects corporations from the great unwashed.

  4. Option 3 by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Create a new amateur license class, that allows individuals to run 4g networks; encourage cooperatives, meshes, and other citizen-run communications systems. Give the spectrum the carriers have to the people and let us manage our communications without relying on monopolies.

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    1. Re:Option 3 by Type44Q · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Give the spectrum the carriers have to the people

      We already own it - not that that's stopping these sociopathic parasites and their paid liars in Congress from renting it back to us at top dollar...

    2. Re:Option 3 by Alien+Being · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think we need a new reality tv show where, each week, a leading corporate or government scumbag gets dragged into Times Square and bludgeoned by the public at large.

  5. Effectiveness of the petitions? by SirGarlon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is anyone tracking how many of these petitions result in actual policy change? It seems most get a canned response explaining the Administration's position. I don't recall any responses that said, "that's a good idea, we'll go do it" or "we've added that to our legislative agenda."

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  6. Clarification by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    On January 26th, unlocking a cell phone that is under contract became illegal in the U.S

    I don't have a big problem with that, but this is the really important part:

    As of January 26, consumers will no longer be able unlock their phones for use on a different network without carrier permission, even after their contract has expired.

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  7. Why bother? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, Obama talks a great game about a transparent government by the people, for the people.

    But from what I can tell, the petition website is, at best, a case of him failing to follow through on his aspirations. At worst, it's meant to give the American public a false sense of being listened to.

    1. Re:Why bother? by 10101001+10101001 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, he's being very transparent about how government works. What better sign of how government will ignore petitions than to setup an official web site to collect them just to ignore them? As for "by the people, for the people", you're just not one of "the people" [that matter] unless you have money and political connections--or can be used for political gain.

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  8. Re:You know, you can buy an unlocked phone by compro01 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Replace "for the next two years" with "for the next infinity years".

    The anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA makes it illegal to ever unlock the phone without the carrier's permission, regardless of whether the contract is up or not.

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  9. Re:You know, you can buy an unlocked phone by Anubis+IV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure, but just to make sure we're clear on this point, when I sign that two-year contract, I actually bought the phone. I'm required to pay sales tax on the full, unsubsidized price of the phone up front. And if I bought the phone, I should be free to use it how I want. The contract is in place to make sure I don't jump carriers without adequately compensating my current one, and it already suffices. Why we need to add an additional technological roadblock that increases friction between switching carriers is beyond me.

    Actually, no, it's not. What the carriers want is to increase friction so that they can lock you in even after your contract is up, so it's no surprise things are this way. But the government stepped in a few years back to help ensure that phone numbers can be transferred between carriers, and they need to do the same here, ensuring that phones themselves can be transferred between carriers, barring any legitimate technological limitations.

  10. /facepalm by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What sort of consensual delusion is it that makes people continue to believe the "Whitehouse Petitions" mean SHIT?

    Yes, Derek Khanna just mentioned it. Hooray. They hit 100k signatures.

    But please: point to a SINGLE THING that the stupid "petition" website has started, stopped, or otherwise changed?*

    *except to prompt some White House drone to hit the button 'generate response email': "Thank you for your interest in (issue). Please be assured that the (current president) administration takes your concern, and those of your other petitioners very seriously. President (current president) has reviewed the situation regarding (issue) closely with a team of experts and while you raise important concerns, feels that we should continue on the current policy course. Once again, thanks for your concern, (current president) appreciates your engagement on (issue)."

    Phht, and people say that religion is dying. If this isn't a demonstration of naked, unsupported faith, I'm not sure what is.

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