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World's First Bitcoin ATM

bill_mcgonigle writes "I just bought bitcoins from the World's first Bitcoin ATM at Liberty Forum. I created an account using an Android Bitcoin client and held up its QR code to the Raspberry Pi-based device's optical scanner. After I fed in a $20 Federal Reserve Note, I got back a confirmation QR code on its display, which I then scanned and checked the third-party confirmation URL. The machine can function on any wireless network and will soon be available for purchase by merchants, who can make a commission on customers' Bitcoin purchases."

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  1. It's one of few anonymous ways to obtain bitcoins by stoploss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is actually quite hard to obtain bitcoins anonymously.

    The days of CPU-based mining are long over, and even the current "economy" of multi-GPU-based mining rigs is about to be eclipsed by the ASIC-based devices coming online this year.

    There are effectively no services that will take anonymous payment for bitcoins. Paying via bank account ACH or check is certainly not anonymous, and the same goes for credit/debit card payment. Furthermore, any credit/debit based payment is potentially reversible via chargebacks, etc, so most places don't take that kind of payment due to the fact that bitcoin transfers are irreversible.

    Services like Bitinstant claim to take cash for bitcoins, but what that really means is that they require payment via MoneyGram, which requires you to present government-issued ID when sending payment. This is linked to the Bitinstant anti-money laundering policy, which requires your real name, etc. Dwolla wants a name, SSN, government ID, etc, to setup an account. As for Mt. Gox? Heh, they require everything but a DNA sample in order to use the exchange. Any service registered as a "money services business" in FinCEN will have these kinds of restrictions.

    Obtaining bitcoins locally requires finding someone offering them for sale, negotiating price each time, and likely a face-to-face meeting to hand over cash. If one is really patient and trusting, a deal might be able to be struck for sending cash in an envelope. However, the bitcoin market is extremely volatile, which tends to undermine these types of deals.

    Anyway, this ATM seems very convenient and anonymous; ergo, it likely will fall afoul of the anti-money laundering laws in one way or another.

  2. Re:Ironic by r1348 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually I recently read a paper from Tim Morgan, a researcher at Tullett Prebon, that claims that the economy is basically just a dynamic balance between produced energy and consumed energy, and currency is just an intermediary state that loses meaning if there's no energy to buy with it (every product is as valuable as the energy used to craft it). This basically associated the economy to physics, and not to finance, and defines debt as a bet on future energy.

    You can read the full paper here http://www.tullettprebon.com/strategyinsights/media_resources.aspx

  3. Re:Waiting for the other shoe by hedwards · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But, BTC is more or less indistinguishable from a Ponzi scheme. The early adopters get massive amounts of BTC for basically nothing and later adopters are the ones that pump up the price. It may not technically be a Ponzi scheme, but that would only be by technicality. It's still early investors being paid by later investors and ultimately nothing is produced to justify anybody profiting.

    I'm going to laugh my ass off when BTC ultimately does collapse. At some point it's going to hit a deflationary spiral when the last blocks are unlocked and no more BTC come into existence.