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NASA Discovers Third Radiation Belt Circling Earth

An anonymous reader sends word that NASA scientists using the Relativistic Electron Proton Telescope (REPT) about the Van Allen Probes have discovered a third radiation belt surrounding Earth. Scientists have been aware of the Van Allen radiation belts since the 1950s, but it was thought that there were only two of them. The probes were sent up to simply map the belts in fine detail; the discovery of a third belt was a complete surprise. Deputy mission scientist Shri Kanekal said, "By the fifth day REPT was on, we could plot out our observations and watch the formation of a third radiation belt. We started wondering if there was something wrong with our instruments. We checked everything, but there was nothing wrong with them. The third belt persisted beautifully, day after day, week after week, for four weeks." Part of the reason they caught a glimpse of this belt was that they turned the REPT on early, so it would overlap with another probe that had reached end-of-life and was about to de-orbit. If they hadn't decided to do so, or if the REPT hadn't worked perfectly, we still might be in the dark about a third Van Allen belt.

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  1. Old Man Earth is getting old by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe he should trade one of those belts for a pair of suspenders?

  2. Gratifying - by Darth+Snowshoe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I worked on this spaceship for ~3 years. Let me say that it's very gratifying that it found something, and especially that it found something nobody was expecting. I'm much relieved.

    1. Re:Gratifying - by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

      where is the:
      +1 worked on actual spacecraft mod?

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  3. More Proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    More proof that man never went to the moon.

    1. Re:More Proof by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      More proof that man never went to the moon.

      The Apollo trans-lunar trajectories skimmed that region of space almost completely. Your silly comment is like blaming Columbus for not having discovered Australia.

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    2. Re:More Proof by H0p313ss · · Score: 2

      ... or America for that matter.

      However, for discovering the Bahamas he's one of my heros.

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  4. Is REPT playing Star Castle? by Picass0 · · Score: 2

    We had a third belt and then we didn't... gamers are at fault.

  5. Van Allen belts...Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea by dywolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Reminds me of one of my favorite movies.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_to_the_Bottom_of_the_Sea
    Yes, I know, the plot is typical 50's non-science (using a nuclear missile to amputate the Van Allen belts from earth because they caught fire....). But i still like it.

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  6. Meanwhile on CNN... by Kaenneth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was this 3rd belt caused by Fukashima or Global Warming?

    1. Re:Meanwhile on CNN... by asylumx · · Score: 2

      Nah, CNN will allow their opinion articles to blame both Bush and Obama as long as it gets them viewers. Meanwhile, Fox will explicitly blame Obama and MSNBC will claim it's Bush's fault.

  7. And old too by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 2

    Look how high up that belt is!

  8. Re:How many of these are not artificial? by mjr167 · · Score: 2

    Considering we don't generally detonate nuclear bombs in orbit around the planet... I would say all of them.

  9. Re:So let's see... by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    We've got the Van Allen belt... what are the other two, Van Morrison and Van Johnson?

    the one responsible for lightning is Van de Graaff

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  10. Re:Interesting by Antipater · · Score: 4, Informative

    The third belt has not always been there, nor is it there now. It was blasted away by a solar shock wave a few weeks after they noticed it. The guess is that a solar shock wave is what created it in the first place, too.

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  11. Re:So let's see... by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2

    I cast a vote for Van Halen

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  12. Re:How many of these are not artificial? by idontgno · · Score: 4, Informative

    And even when we do, the radiation belt created doesn't last long. Five years in the case of the Starfish Prime artificial belt. Probably because the belt isn't caused by or reinforced by solar particle flux, so the trapped particles leak over time.

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  13. Which one is the new one? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    Unless I missed it, it's not clear from TFA which of the three belts shown in the map is the "new", intermittent belt.

    I'm guessing it's the inner one (which I'd expect to decay from encounters with the very tenuous upper atmosphere). But I'd like to know for sure.

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    1. Re:Which one is the new one? by Antipater · · Score: 2

      It's the outermost one. TFA is disappointing because it reads more like a beg for funding than an informative look at the new belt. Here's yesterday's NBC article on the subject.

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  14. Not a "third belt" by yusing · · Score: 2

    Not a "third belt" at all. A temporary "third concentration" within the Van Allen belt, yes. The lower concentration is blamed on cosmic ray neutron=>proton interactions, the upper concentration to atmospheric and solar electrons. The belt was already known to consist of some concentration of energetic particles from 250-20,000 km. Naturally that varies at various levels as incoming particles are pulled into the magnetosphere.

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