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UK Court Orders Block of Three Torrent Sites

angry tapir writes "A court in the U.K. has ordered key Internet service providers in the country to block three torrent sites on a complaint from music labels including EMI Records and Sony Music. The High Court of Justice, Chancery Division, ordered six ISPs including Virgin Media, British Telecommunications and British Sky Broadcasting to block H33t, Kickass Torrents and Fenopy."

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  1. My first response is "Must check out those sites" by viking80 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My first response is "Must check out those sites".

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  2. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What will that accomplish?

    Invest in VPN service providers.

    1. Re:So... by The_Revelation · · Score: 2

      Won't they simply mirror? Does the ISP have to watch and block mirrors? Will the whack-a-mole ever end?

    2. Re:So... by deains · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are a million and one proxies for Pirate Bay that are accessible in the UK. As far as I know none of these have been shut down by authorities since TPB itself was banned in the country. So if we assume the same model here then chances are proxy sites will be left alone.
       
      Nothing to say the BPI/government (more or less the same thing now) might not change tack of course.

    3. Re:So... by cheater512 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They don't sell the product the torrent sites provide.
      I.e. DRM free video downloadable (not streamed) and released nearly at the same time world wide (some of us aren't in the US)

      The day they sell the product then let me know.

    4. Re:So... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Pirate Party UK proxy was shut down by legal threats.

      To the BPI: stop breaking my fucking internet. You added a fiver a month to my bill for a VPN, which I am deducting from the money I would otherwise have spend on your products.

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    5. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      As far as I know none of these have been shut down by authorities since TPB itself was banned in the country.

      TPB is not banned in the UK. A handful of ISPs are banned from letting their users access it directly (IIRC, the list is: BT, Virgin, O2, TalkTalk and Sky). Fortunately the UK has local loop unbundling and easy migration between service providers, so you can just move to one that isn't banned.

    6. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      So does that mean I can just view these sites using my mobile broadband connection from Three, and then after getting the torrent file or magnet link I can carry on downloading the torrent on my Virginmedia home broadband? Naturally, the torrents I download will be from copyright holders that have given permission to download their work through torrents, I would never download copyright infringing work, honest!

  3. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My first response is "Must check out those sites".

    If you're in the UK, you may wish to use a VPN or suchlike. Until they're made illegal outside "reputable corporations".

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  4. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    That would be my first thought, except i'm still doing fine with piratebay. Y'know, the one they blocked ages ago which definitely doesn't have numerous easy to find proxies that make such rulings pointless

  5. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by lightknight · · Score: 2

    My first response is "Certainly that will work."

    Ok, so who wants to print the "This is a bit, this is a byte" slides, and send them to the judge, so he can find the error of his ways?

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  6. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My first response is "Must check out those sites".

    If you're in the UK, you may wish to use a VPN or suchlike. Until they're made illegal outside "reputable corporations".

    There's no need to use a VPN. The sites will simply pop up under various URL/domains. Some of them already have.

  7. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    My response is to add them to my foxy proxy list so i get to them via tor.

    firefox+foxyproxy+tor > silly court order

  8. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by Fluffeh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's no need to use a VPN. The sites will simply pop up under various URL/domains. Some of them already have.

    Indeed, the first thing I thought when this came up was: Here we go, the greatest whack-a-mole game in history is about to begin...

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  9. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My guess is, if you haven't heard of them, it's probably because you don't do much torrenting. That was my first response, too.

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  10. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by hairyfish · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you're using a good torrent search engine it'll give you a whole list of sites that have the exact same content. I fail to see how this achieves anything

  11. What's next? by jd659 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This game of blocking the sites cannot be won. Let’s say it takes, at best, one month from BPI or copyright holder to figure out that one site is infringing the copyright, file a suite and have a verdict against the infringing site. That process takes time and money. On the other hand, duplicating the site’s content on some other IP and the alternative name can happen overnight and is virtually free. So there will always be sites providing free access to any works.

    What is more concerning here is that none of the sites blocked hosted the copyrighted works. This is something that only few really consider as a serious shift in the court system. None of the sites blocked for copyright infringement host copyrighted works! What will be the next step? Someone will create a site that will list all the blocked sites along with the new mirrored sites that can be accessed within the UK. Should this new site be blocked? Based on what? It doesn’t host any copyrighted works, nor provides an index to the copyrighted works. Let’s say that the UK block-thirsty judges will issue a new verdict to block the sites that list mirrors. What next? Someone will write a browser plugin that will automatically redirect to the current working mirror of the blocked sites and users will continue to use the sites without even noticing any blocking and without using any VPN. Should browser plugins be blocked or any sites that host browser plugins? Someone will say that it will be good enough if less people are aware of the options. But how did we get to the point that more users are aware of thepiratebay than about the legal ways of obtaining the same material? The reason is that thepiratebay does better consolidating all the media (even that that cannot be purchased anywhere) in one spot at an attractive price point. Offer something better and people will pick the alternative. Otherwise, blocking will not solve any problem that BPI thinks exists.

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  12. Another repeat story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    We already did this one four days ago:
    High Court Orders UK ISPs To Block More Torrent Sites.

  13. Re:luckily by crutchy · · Score: 2

    yeah good point, but at least we have the iinet case as a precedent for the type of garbage in TFA

  14. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by bonniot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ok, so who wants to print the "This is a bit, this is a byte" slides, and send them to the judge, so he can find the error of his ways?

    Are you quoting this?

  15. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by dintech · · Score: 5, Funny

    so he can find the error of his ways

    Only if you include some par2 files...

  16. Re:My first response is "Must check out those site by Bengie · · Score: 2

    I wonder if these ISPs only removed the DNS entry. I wonder if one could just enter in the IP address directly or use OpenDNS.