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ISP Trying Free (But Limited) Home Broadband Plan

adeelarshad82 writes "Earlier today FreedomPop, a telecom company headquartered in Los Angeles, announced its plans to launch a very low cost home broadband plan for extremely low-intensity users, with 1GB monthly for free. Clearly this is much lower than an average U.S. home broadband usage, which is between 24 and 28 gigs per month. The 1GB of free Internet is basically a teaser; the company aims to disrupt the cable and DSL business with its 10GB for $10 plan which is extendable by paying $5 for each additional GB beyond 10."

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  1. Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Remember when everybody was screaming about bandwidth caps and the need for government to regulate them out of existence?

    This is why that regulation was a bad idea.

    1GB/free and 10GB/$10 is highly disruptive to the major cable cartel. It is also extraordinarily beneficial for low income or student subscribers. This is innovation. We need more competition, not more regulations treating the symptoms of the lack of competition in most markets.

    1. Re:Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by PhxBlue · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Highly disruptive. Sure. Whatever.

      Given my bandwidth usage, I'd have to pay about $1,000 a month to get what I have now for about $70. I'm not seeing what's "highly disruptive" about that.

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    2. Re:Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      The problem Ms AC was NOT the very idea of caps at all, it was and is the fact that with zero competition and conflicts of interest they have you by the short hairs which is what pisses everyone off. In my area the cable is pushing their PPV and VoIP and guess what? Those do NOT count against the cap but if I use a competing service they DO count.

      Now as for TFA? In my area most of the poor can't afford Internet AT ALL, the minimum cost to get cable or DSL (if you are lucky enough to lie in the 1/3rd of the town they serve) or the local WISP is bare minimum $120 counting hookup and $50+ a month so a deal like this would certainly make it more accessible, too bad it'll never end up here.

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    3. Re:Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by Sez+Zero · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not seeing what's "highly disruptive" about that.

      Well, it would be highly disruptive to your wallet.

    4. Re:Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by alen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      yeah, but lots of people like my inlaws who don't use too much will jump on this if it costs them $20 or $30 a month

      if i use less than 1GB per month on my iphone i'm sure there are lots of people who use the same on their home internet

    5. Re:Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by shaitand · · Score: 2

      I doubt it. It's a scam. My phone's data usage is higher than that. The data usage is so ridiculous any student, low income, or other user will exceed it within a week even trying to "behave" they'll be getting massive overage bills. The faster the link, the faster they'll exhaust it.

    6. Re:Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by dmatos · · Score: 4, Informative

      RTFA - median internet usage numbers in the US are 5.8GB/mo. This plan is cheaper for those users than _any_ other plan out there right now.

      If they can steal 50% of all internet customers from other service providers, to the benefit of those customers, it will be disruptive.

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    7. Re:Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by SJHillman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Holy shit, I didn't realize we had The Guy Who Is Representative Of Everyone's Bandwidth Usage on Slashdot.

      (If you didn't get the sarcasm, what I mean to say is "Maybe this product is targeted at certain demographic/market of which you are not a member")

      My maternal grandmother uses a few dozen MB a month, she does almost nothing beyond email a couple times a week, look up the odd recipe and a little online banking. My paternal grandfather does even less with his Net connection. Both are on fixed income.

    8. Re:Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by dyingtolive · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think he ran out of bandwidth.

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    9. Re:Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2

      The main problem with internet metered by data volume is that you don't usually know what data volume you are using. When making phone calls, you know how long you speak, and therefore you can estimate how much it will cost you. However few people have any idea about what data volume is associated with a typical web site.

      However if metered data becomes more common, I guess ad blocking will become more popular. I don't think many people will like to pay for being served ads.

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    10. Re:Attacks on bandwidth caps are shortsighted by RaceProUK · · Score: 2

      Yes, I declare the following are dead: ... turkey burgers ...

      I'd hope so. Last thing I want is my burger walking off before I can eat it.

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  2. Model cycling by nycsubway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hopefully the home ISP market won't follow the cyclic model of the cell phone industry. With cell phone data, first you paid by the kB, then they introduced unlimited data plans, then they capped the limits and you paid by the GB, now they're going back to unlimited data plans. I'd prefer the home ISPs to not do that. They've always been unlimited (within reason) so I'd wouldn't like to see some small company changing the model for the industry.

  3. Could Work for Some by cluedweasel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Interesting to see the average usage at 24Gb to 28Gb. When our local cable company was trying to bring in a 30Gb monthly cap, their argument was that 95% of their users went through 2Gb a month or less, effectively subsidizing heavier users. Total bollocks argument of course, but that's another story. The age demographic tends to skew high here and a lot of people only use their Internet connection for email. even here at work, people will reach for the Yellow Pages book before using Google. Those people would be a good target for this sort of service.

    1. Re:Could Work for Some by Rogue+Haggis+Landing · · Score: 4, Informative

      Interesting to see the average usage at 24Gb to 28Gb. When our local cable company was trying to bring in a 30Gb monthly cap, their argument was that 95% of their users went through 2Gb a month or less, effectively subsidizing heavier users. Total bollocks argument of course, but that's another story.

      The summary is a little misleading. The 24-28 gb is the average use, but the mean is a lot lower. Here's the full quote:

      "While average [U.S. home broadband usage] is 24-28 gigs per month, the average is skewed heavily by the whales. The median is actually 5.8 gigs, which is basically your non-streaming user," Stokols said.

      So half of all users are using 5.8 gb or less. Still makes the 2 gb limit ridiculously low, but the 24-28 gb average is skewed by some heavy users.

  4. Re:Not Cheaper by cluedweasel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And one of my remote workers gets through 4Gb to 5Gb per month and she has the privilege of paying $56.99 per month for that. Just because this pricing doesn't work for you, doesn't mean it's a bad deal for everyone.

  5. Re:Not Cheaper by localman57 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You'd want to be careful about auto-updates of software, though. Adding a new (to you) computer with a pre -SP3 fresh reinstall of winodws XP (something resonable to happen for people in this market) would eat up stubstantial bandwidth as it downloaded updates.

  6. Opt-In Cap Limits by MatrixCubed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If they're implementing cap-excess fees, they should also enable the user to hard-limit his internet access when the cap is reached, with a manual bypass when the user wishes to "accept the charges".

    My ISP (Rogers, up here in Canada) offers soft-cap notifications in your browser when the cap reaches 75% and 100%, but these notifications would never be seen if I, for example, were to Netflix my Gbs into oblivion.

    1. Re:Opt-In Cap Limits by sdnoob · · Score: 2

      the only cap system that is fair and prevents outrageous overage charges is throttled-but-free usage over the cap. e.g. pay $30 for 100 gigs at 15 mbit, over 100 gigs in a month then speed falls to 1/10th that... want more full-speed gigs this month? call or login and order extra gigs for $7.50 per 25 gigs. extra gigs rollover, monthly quota does not. simple and fair.. provided it is marketed in plain english and limits are as obvious in marketing materials as the price or 'full' speed.

  7. Re:Not Cheaper by localman57 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Paying $5 for 1 GB of usage is a good deal, idiot.

    Paying $50 for 1 GB of usage (which is what some people are doing now) is a bad deal. It's like paying to take your anorexic girlfriend to the world's most expensive all you can eat seafood buffet.

  8. Re:Not Cheaper by localman57 · · Score: 2

    That's why you can get computers like this for next to nothing on craigslist. People who want $10 per month internet typically don't buy their computers from the Apple Store or Alienware.

  9. My grandma could use it by Chirs · · Score: 2

    Currently she pays $12/month for a 128KB/s cable connection. Basically email, a little bit of web browsing, and audio-only skype.

  10. Re:Not Cheaper by fredprado · · Score: 2

    It does not work like this. The provider will charge as much as it can, and deliver as little as it can get away with. Price has little to do with costs. Cost is a limiting factor not a price definer.