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Copyright Trolls Order Wordpress To Disclose Critics' IP Addresses

TrueSatan writes "Notorious copyright troll Prenda Law has sent a subpoena to WordPress attempting to force the disclosure of all IP addresses related to two WordPress-hosted sites that specialize in monitoring and encouraging action against copyright trolling. The sites in question are fightcopyrighttrolls.com and dietrolldie.com. These sites state their aims as: 'To keep the public and fellow victims informed and to ensure that through activism, trolls make as little money as possible.' These are goals which almost anyone (bar a copyright troll, or lawyer acting for one) might well applaud. Prenda Law's demand is not for a subset of addresses that might have posted in a manner that could be construed as legally defamatory but for all IP addresses that have accessed these sites, irrespective of the use made of them. Prenda Law has filed three defamation lawsuits already against the individuals who run Fightcopyrighttrolls, and one has been dismissed (PDF). Dietrolldie released the following warning: 'As there is a possibility that a release could occur, the public IP address (date/time stamp) could fall into the hands of Prenda. I would expect that they would then try to cross-reference the IP address with their list of alleged BitTorrent infringement IP addresses ... If you have ever gone to this site or Fightcopyrighttrolls.com since 1 January 2011, you may want to contact WordPress. Tell them you want them to refuse this overly broad request and at least wait until the issue of the case being moved to the Federal court is answered before releasing any information.'"

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  1. How about... by Beorytis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...even if you've never visited those sites, contact WordPress and tell them you want them to refuse.

    1. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How about sending a Motion To Quash the subpoena to the court. Imagine if every reader of these blogs did that? The court would receive thousands, maybe tens of thousands of motions - that's how you send a message.

    2. Re:How about... by msauve · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think they should comply.

      Dear Prenda Law,
      Our records indicate that the IP address range of 0.0.0.0/0 (and ::/0 for IPv6) covers all hosts which have ever connected to any Wordpress site.
      Sincerely, Wordpress.

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    3. Re:How about... by msauve · · Score: 3, Informative

      Those aren't single addresses - they're shorthand for "all addresses."

      With a bit of local cooperation, Wordpress could actually do that - they just need someone nearby to set up a script to try and open those sites from every available (legitimate) IP address ("spoofing," possible for IPv4, no so much for IPv6). Then Wordpress would actually have every address in their logs.

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  2. Fuck Prenda Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They're mutant vampire aliens sent from Xenu to do the Devil's bidding.

    1. Re:Fuck Prenda Law by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would like to think that Prenda Law is doing us all a favor. By putting the absurdity of copyright, patent, libel, and slander laws on full display, we could hopefully see a more widespread movement to abolish this nonsense.

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  3. Three words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_to_quash

    If you refuse the subpoena, the judge may decide that Wordpress is committing contempt of court. A better alternative would be to have their own lawyer request a motion to quash the subpoena.

    Of course, the best thing Wordpress can do is to listen to corporate counsel and pay attention, but I'm no lawyer, so don't listen to me. :)

  4. If you could get the troll's IP addresses on both by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... could you force them to sue themselves?

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  5. Poison the well by pla · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does that include the IP addresses of the 20 million visitors they will get over the next 48 hours for appearing on the Slashdot FP?

  6. Re:Fact finding by dragnet. by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They want to intimidate.

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  7. Give'm Hell!! by Bananatree3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Enjoy some afternoon reading, and piss in Prenda's sought-after goods:

    FightCopyrightTrolls.com

    Dietrolldie.com

  8. Or maybe... by Beorytis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...Prenda just wants proof that lots and lots of unique visitors have viewed the allegedly-defaming content as justification for seeking a giant-size judgement.

  9. Legal blog summary by spasm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Popehat (a great legal blog - I have no affiliation, just a fan) has a great and hilarious summary of the case including why Prenda's lawyers could be facing jail on March 11:

    http://www.popehat.com/2013/03/05/prenda-law-researches-streisand-effect-says-i-gotta-get-me-some-of-that/

    and

    http://www.popehat.com/2013/03/06/what-prenda-law-is-facing-in-los-angeles/

  10. Wordpress has replied "no" by davecb · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wordpress replied that "the blog owner has already informed us that the subpoena will be challenged. Per our policies, we will not turn over any information (including on commentors) until that challenge has been decided by the courts."

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  11. Re:Fact finding by dragnet. by mrbester · · Score: 3, Funny

    And then fax it to them via an email to fax service taking care to invert the colours first.

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  12. SLAPP by mabhatter654 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm surprised they can't get these cases moved to SLAPP status... The same corp filing 3 cases in 3 courts over "defamation" sounds like they are using the courts to shut up people they don't want to hear from. These sites are naming names and events, so they might get them on technicalities... But then FOX news got a pass that FABRICATIONS were still not defamation... So the only possible purpose of the suits is to collect information to harass the readers later.

    Part of the problem revolves around court culture. Lawyers are used to going to court and calling defendants, plaintiffs all kinds of names, making grand requests for judgements that are hundreds of thousands of dollars... Then packing their briefcases and going out to lunch with the other lawyers.

    Judges don't like reporters going after the LAWYERS in a case because "it's just business". Except in these cases, the lawyers ARE the ones causing the problems .. Courts don't really censor what lawyers say in court... But then what they say HAS to be taken as intent to keep these threats...

    It takes time for the judges to pick up that these guys are running the same thing in every town... The legal PROCESS can't keep up rules to prevent this stuff.

  13. Best use of slashdot effect. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now if every slashdotter clicked on those to links, and forwarded it to all their friends, or put those links in as auto loads in some of their blogs, ...

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