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A Quarter of Sun-Like Stars Host Earth-Size Worlds

astroengine writes "Although there appears to be a mysterious dearth of exoplanets smaller than Earth, astronomers using data from NASA's Kepler space telescope have estimated that nearly a quarter of all sun-like stars in our galaxy play host to worlds 1-3 times the size of our planet. These astonishing results were discussed by Geoff Marcy, professor of astronomy at the University of California, Berkeley, during a talk the W. M. Keck Observatory 20th Anniversary Science Meeting on Thursday. '23 percent of sun-like stars have a planet within (1-2.8 Earth radii) just within Mercury's orbit,' said Marcy. 'I'll say that again, because that number really surprised me: 23 percent of sun-like stars have a nearly-Earth-sized planet orbiting in tight orbits within 0.25 AU of the host stars.'"

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  1. Why the Surprise? by sycodon · · Score: 2

    As Carl said, "...billions and billions..."

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    1. Re:Why the Surprise? by Greg01851 · · Score: 2

      But Mr. Sagan didn't have any proof at the time... now there's much more evidence :)

    2. Re:Why the Surprise? by gmuslera · · Score: 2

      Even if Earth-sized planets were not as common as this study say, just with the raw amount of galaxies in the universe you should have billons of those planets anyway.

    3. Re:Why the Surprise? by bware · · Score: 2

      There is no fundamental reason why one quarter of all sun-like stars shouldn't have Earth-size objects fairly close to them, according to any theory I am aware of.

      There's no reason why they should, either. Thus, observational science. To find out.

      A decade ago, we simply did not have any idea of what \eta_{earth} was. 0.01? 0.1? 1.0? No idea. Now we do. That's pretty cool.

      To me, this, along with cold dark matter and dark energy, are the quantum theory and general relativity of our time. We know that we don't really understand the universe, but we have inklings of what to look for. It's a good time to be a scientist. Well, except for shrinking budgets - this kind of science, so far, requires big bucks.

  2. But... by war4peace · · Score: 2

    ...that's translated as "lots of stars have planets in orbits which can in no way sustain life". Dims my hopes rather than the other way around.
    Also: would that not decrease the chance of planets in goldilocks range overall, since planet material in that system was partly used to give birth to close orbiters?

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    1. Re:But... by Nadaka · · Score: 3, Informative

      2 problems with your assertion:

      1: the majority of stars are smaller and dimmer than the sun, .25 AU is not necessarily out of the "green" zone for the most common dwarf stars.

      2: earth sized planets further out from stars can not be reliable detected using current technology and processes. The fact that the earth sized planets that we can detect are plentiful does indicate that the earth sized planets we can not detect are not plentiful. Recall that the first few exo-planets were much larger than Jupiter and much closer than earth. We are constantly expanding the lower limit of mass and higher limit of distance that we can detect effectively.

    2. Re:But... by cnettel · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, we do have Mercury and Venus in our system and that hasn't hurt us, has it? (Yeah, Mercury is small, but Venus is also on the too-close side even without greenhouse gases and almost Earth-size.)

      I guess the point with Kepler is still that due to the methodology (repeated occlusions), shorter orbital periods will increase the chance of detection (more data points to establish significance), in addition to the fact that a planet closer to its host star will occlude a larger area and thus give a stronger signal. Just keeping Kepler going will increasingly shift the distribution of detected planets towards higher star-planet distances. The minimum detectable size will be more or less of a constant function of that distance, though, although again I guess repeated observations can sometimes bring out something that would otherwise be just at the noise floor.

      For reference, Kepler has just completed 4 years of operation, but actual planet detection only started on May 12 2009. If you want three confirmed events, you could per definition not yet have detected e.g. an exo-Mars. It simply hasn't passed by three times yet. If the orbital plane is different, the planet might not pass in our line of sight every time, and then working out the period and get a detection can take even longer.

      Just wait and see.

    3. Re:But... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      1: the majority of stars are smaller and dimmer than the sun, .25 AU is not necessarily out of the "green" zone for the most common dwarf stars.

      TFA uses the phrase "sun-like stars" a lot. It doesn't get more specific than that.

      It's certainly possible they're talking about "all dwarf stars", but it's not really a good way to bet.

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    4. Re:But... by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      Close to the sun means that alien babes will be wearing really really skimpy bikinis.

    5. Re:But... by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Umm, what? If anything our solar system suggests Earth-like planets are very common - we have three of them here including Mars and Venus. Only Earth is firmly in the "Goldilock zone", but you can only reasonably expect one planet to fall into that zone around any given sunlike star, *maybe* two if they fall near opposite extremes.

      Given that current detection methods can't yet reliably detect a planet the size and distance of Earth the fact that we're detecting lots of larger, closer planets in no way detracts from the possible commonness of exo-Earths, it just means we're detecting lots of planets that are easy to detect, and can now say that ~1 in 4 sunlike stars has something like a Venus or Mercury - if our system is at all typically I'd expect such stars to also have a good chance of having additional Earthlike planets further out, we just can't detect them yet without being extremely lucky.

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    6. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You might want to throw Europa in there. Not a planet, and not in the Goldilocks Zone - but it's close enough to the right size, and tidal forces contribute enough heat to possibly put it in a 'Goldilocks Emeritus' category.

    7. Re:But... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most people don't understand that we can only find (with the current way how we do detection) very very few planets. Perhaps 1/300 or even less (more likely 1/900) of the systems can be observed in a way that reveals planets.

      We can only detect a planet if his orbit plane is cutting the star like this: -o-
      Ofc you can turn this now clockwise or counterclockwise, the cut does not need to be horizontal.

      However we can not detect any planet in a solar system that looks like a cut up onion to us: the star in the middle and the planets orbiting on the rings around it (because the planerts are to dim to see directly, and they never obscure the star)

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  3. Re:Great! by Greg01851 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, "within 0.25 AU" puts them too close to their star to be habitable... i.e. not in the goldilocks zone :( PS 1 A.U. is the distance of the Earth to the Sun, just in case you didn't/don't know.

  4. Re:Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It depends upon the size and temperature of the star - a planet that is 0.25 AU from a star half the size or half the "temperature" of the sun may very well be in the goldilocks zone of the star. (Remember the inverse square law!) But in this case, it looks like they are talking about earth-sized planets that are within 0.25 AU of sun-sized stars, and those are not in the goldilocks zone - but they are also a lot easier to find than earth-sized planets in the goldilocks zone are (the inverse square law strikes again!). So the question is, what does this finding suggest about how common terrestrial (i.e., non-Jovian) planets with relatively round orbits in the goldilocks zone are?

  5. Artifact of our technology by gatkinso · · Score: 2

    In 30 years we will be able to detect planetesimals smaller than the moon orbiting stars out to 300 LY. This is of course just a guess.

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  6. Streetlight effect? by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How much harder would be to find planets of those sizes if they were at a bigger distance from their sun?

    1. Re:Streetlight effect? by bjorniac · · Score: 5, Informative

      The answer is that it's not much more difficult, but a lot more time consuming (gleaned from going to talks on the subject, not my area of expertise).

      There are two basic ways that these planets are observed: They make the stars they orbit wobble (the basic 2 body problem - each body orbits the center of mass of the pair) and they dim the light from the star when they pass in front (like an eclipse).

      The time problem comes from the fact that orbits are longer for objects more distant from the star. If we make the simplification that the orbit of the planet is basically circular, the time period for an orbit increases as radius^(3/2). (Insert semi-major axis for radius for non-circular). The standard is about three events separated by equal times to count as an observation - you have to wait to see an event at least twice to know the time period and so infer the radius of orbit, and once again to remove some flukes. Hence you're having to wait a long time looking at a star to see this happen.

      Now, on top of that you've got the possibility that there's more than one planet, that the earth-like planet isn't the dominant mass, etc etc. This can all be cleverly dealt with (multiple wobbles, multiple eclipses) but it adds time to the confirmation process.

      To give an example: Suppose you were somewhere near Proxima Centauri, and making the relevant observation looking for Earth. It would take at least three years to detect Earth, even if your telescope was amazing. Dynamics of the system would pick up the effect of Jupiter on the sun first, for the wobble detection (you wouldn't get much eclipse given the angle between the plane of the solar system and the position of PC) and it might take quite some analysis to pick up Earth at all given the effects of all the other planets.

      Anyway, I'm sure some astro people can give a much better version of all this. Suffice to say that we aren't looking for Earth like planets at Earth like radii yet, but I imagine over the next ten to twenty years there will be a lot of poor graduate students analyzing data desperately looking for Gallifrey.

    2. Re:Streetlight effect? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      The answer is that it's not much more difficult, but a lot more time consuming (gleaned from going to talks on the subject, not my area of expertise). Correct and not correct.

      Lets focus on the correct part first:
      We can only detect planets that transit regularly their star. That means the ecliptic is somehow perpendicular to our view.

      Try this experiment: take a pice of paper, draw a sun in the middle and a few rings around it.

      Now hold the sheet in two hands in front of you that you only can see the edge of the paper. That means the paper is e.g. horizontal in the height of your eyes. You an turn it in any angel you want as long as you only see the edge: -- or / or \ etc.

      In this situation you could find any planet, if you watch long enough, e.g. to find a pluto like planet and if you want 3 transits you ofc have to wait till the little bugger has orbited its star 3 times, this is roughly 750 years :-/

      Now to the incorrect part :D (yes I'm nitpicking)
      If you tilt that pice of paper slightly, so you can see the circles you have drawn and imagine you had a ping pong ball glued into the middle as the star you will notice the following:
      Even tilted, the closer circles you see are obscured behind the ping pong ball. That means the part in front of the ball is obscuring (transiting) the ball/star and hence can be detected. However the bigger circles are *to big*. The part of the orbit in front of the ping pong ball will pass "below" the ball in front of you, and wont cut it. The same circles other side, wont be hidden behind the ball but will go (from your point of view) above the ball.

      So, if a ecliptic plane of an observed star is just tilted a little bit, the closest planets will transit it, and the farer away planets wont.

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  7. Selection Bias? by The+Raven · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am confused... can someone explain how this report is not selection biased against distant or small planets?

    To put it another way, we started by finding huge planets. As we have gotten better methods, we have found successively smaller planets. The three factors that make a planet easy to find are its diameter (occlusion of star), gravitational effect (how much the star wobbles), and distance (how likely that the planet will occlude the star from our perspective, and also factoring into the gravitational effect).

    Distant, small planets simply won't be detected from our perspective. So the report is not really saying 'Only 23% of stars have earth sized planets'. It's really saying 'We know that about 23% of stars have rocky planets that are really close. Since we have no reason to believe our solar system is extremely unique, that makes it very likely that an even greater percentage of stars have rocky planets that are farther out'.

    This is probably a huge boost to the 'how many stars have possible life sustaining planets' factor in that oft derided formula, the Drake equation.

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  8. Re:Seems like useless info by 0111+1110 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What are you basing that guess on?

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  9. We're only detecting the low-hanging fruit for now by Immerman · · Score: 2

    Absolutely. Present technology is strongly biased towards detecting large planets orbiting close to their stars in a plane we're looking at nearly edge-on. This is a recognized weakness among astronomers, and means that planets that depart from any of those criteria will be less likely/take longer to be detected. It typically take at least 3-5 orbits worth of observations to confirm a planet detection, and smaller or more distantly-orbitting planets will be harder to detect (lower signal-to-noise ratio), so more orbits are required for confirmation. Something like an exo-Jupiter with it's multiple-century orbit won't be directly* detected for a thousand years or so using current technology, despite it's large mass. And an exo-Earth with it's small signal and longer year will take much longer to detect than say an exo-Mercury.

    We can make educated guesses about what other system are actually like, but for the immediate future the only planets types we can make any sort of statistical extrapolation about are the kinds that are easiest to detect. On the bright side as the length of observation increases not only can we detect more planets directly, we can also more accurately characterize the orbits of previously detected planets, including the perturbations caused by other planets in the system too small or slow to detect directly.

    * technically what I'm calling direct detection is via the Doppler shift it causes in its star's spectrum

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  10. John Gribbin's Book: Recommended. by smpoole7 · · Score: 2

    "Alone In The Universe: Why Our Planet Is Unique" by John Gribbin. I've just finished it. Those who've always hoped to one day chat with a Wookie or a Klingon (not to mention SETI-types) will find it thoroughly depressing, but it's filled with excellent science. There's a good review of it here:

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/bluecollaratheist/2012/05/29/alone-in-the-universe-why-our-planet-is-unique-part-1

    Computer geeks will like it because many of its conclusions are based on cluster-run computer simulations. :) The results of the simulations are nothing short of amazing.

    Example: Earth's molten iron core is what gives us a strong magnetic field that protects our atmosphere. The only way they could get that to work out was to put a supernova(!!!) .1 light years (that's not a typo) from the solar system at a critical time while it was forming. This also helps answer why our system has an unusual mix of elements compared to other stellar systems (particularly of radioactives such as Aluminum 26 and Iron 60).

    Example: we're actually a binary planet -- Earth and Moon. The moon is thought to have formed from a planet in the Langrange point, called "Theia," that would have fractured our thick crust, making continental drift possible; the moon's gravitational effects on Earth are also critical.

    Read the book. Even if you disagree with it (and I know many here will, especially my good friends who love SETI), but it's an excellent read.

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  11. Re:Great! by thomst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Greg01851 noted:

    Actually, "within 0.25 AU" puts them too close to their star to be habitable... i.e. not in the goldilocks zone :(PS 1 A.U. is the distance of the Earth to the Sun, just in case you didn't/don't know.

    Yep. Important datum, that.

    However ... since this announcement ONLY applies to 1-3 Earth-mass planets within .25 AU of G-type stars (because it's the result of occulation observations, and that's the limit of resolution for any current telescope), it says nothing whatsoever about Earth-ish planets that obit in the "Golidlocks zone". OTOH, I think it's not unreasonable to extrapolate that, if there're appropriately-sized worlds in too-close orbits around that high a proportion of G-type stars, there's a pretty good likelihood that there're just as many (or more) in the zone where life could evolve.

    Perhaps we'll find out when/if the James Webb telescope is launched.

    Exciting stuff, regardless.

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