The Pirate Bay's Oldest Torrent Is Revolution OS

Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by gubon13 · 2013-03-17 18:07 · Score: 5, Insightful

You just blew my mind...

Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 19:07 · Score: 3, Informative

TPB _HAS_ older porn (and other stuff) than this movie.... The truth is just not as interesting as this story. And the movie is also not the truth but a spiced up political anti MS version of it. Linus wrote Linux because of the high price of the Unixes at the time (his own words at the time); Microsoft had nothing to do with it.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 19:38 · Score: 2, Insightful

Microsoft had nothing to do with it.
Apart from spending decades trying to kill it.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 19:55 · Score: 5, Funny

I'm more impressed by the torrent of the whole geocities webpages (600GB+) with only one seeder.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by aNonnyMouseCowered · 2013-03-17 20:06 · Score: 4, Informative

"TPB _HAS_ older porn (and other stuff) than this movie"
Citation required. Please provide links so I may satisfy my academic curiosity.
Seriously I can find porn several decades older than the said movie, but TFA is talking about the torrent file itself. You might upload your VHS rip of Deep Throat today but that won't make it older than the torrent of this movie.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by bedouin · 2013-03-17 21:08 · Score: 2

I'm tempted to download just the torrent file and see if I can find a friend's page from '97 or so, then leech that part of it.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 22:01 · Score: 0

You might upload your VHS rip of Deep Throat today but that won't make it older than the torrent of this movie.
The Watergate scandal is so 1970s! Then again, all software was free software back then.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 22:14 · Score: 0

Check here, first. Assuming you know the old URL.
Reocities has a handy neighborhood listing in their archives.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by jones_supa · 2013-03-17 22:19 · Score: 1

Linus wrote Linux because of the high price of the Unixes at the time (his own words at the time); Microsoft had nothing to do with it.
And just for fun. The relaxed social safety of Nordic countries allows you to screw around a bit and try interesting things (which might lead to innovation, as in the case with Linux...or Pirate Bay).
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Lumpy · 2013-03-17 22:28 · Score: 1

And Oddly, you must have never seen the movie because Linus says exactly that IN THE MOVIE....

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Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by loufoque · 2013-03-17 22:32 · Score: 1

Porn-specific streaming websites (redtube etc.) are much better at serving porn than torrent trackers.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 22:57 · Score: 0

Stop repeating that meme. He doesn't eat toe cheese. He eats food crumbs from his beard. I saw it in person.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by kenh · 2013-03-17 23:38 · Score: 4, Insightful

I was under the impression that Linus was inspired to "scratch his own itch" by creating Linux not because of "relaxed social safety" but because he had just gotten a new i386 computer and he wanted an OS that would take full advantage of all the features in the chip, and his then-current OS (MINIX) wouldn't do that, so he set about to implement a 80386 version of MINIX.
Wikipedia supports this idea, and it is curious to note that he made his famous announcement on comp.os.minix, not, comp.os.look.at.what.i.can.do.because.of.our.relaxed.social.safety newsgroup...

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Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 23:50 · Score: 0

Here you go
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by jones_supa · 2013-03-18 00:03 · Score: 1

Well, let's just say that there was multiple reasons.
What I find interesting is the passion that Linus had to make lots various core system tools (editor, assembler, kernel) completely from scratch. Like to his Sinclair way before Linux. Back then you had to make your tools, as there was not many available, but still.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 00:28 · Score: 0

But there isn't enough specific fetish porn in those :(
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 00:54 · Score: 0

Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 02:40 · Score: 0

Yeah, it's disgusting but really what does it have to do with anything?
Bill Gates has, or had, disgusting habits in his day too. A friend of mine attended a talk in the early '90s and said when Gates walked down the aisle he had greasy hair and smelled like he hadn't bathed in a week.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by LordLimecat · 2013-03-18 02:58 · Score: 1

"decades" is a funny term to use when Linux has barely been around for "decades", and MS certainly hasnt been trying to kill it for its entire life.
"Decade", maybe.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by tlhIngan · 2013-03-18 04:21 · Score: 1

I was under the impression that Linus was inspired to "scratch his own itch" by creating Linux not because of "relaxed social safety" but because he had just gotten a new i386 computer and he wanted an OS that would take full advantage of all the features in the chip, and his then-current OS (MINIX) wouldn't do that, so he set about to implement a 80386 version of MINIX.
More like Linus got a fancy i386 computer and wanted access to netnews, which his computer did not have at the time (he used to use university computers for it). He could dialup and get it, but his computer lacked a terminal client.
So he wrote one using the i386 instruction set - a small kernel to help manage the send and receive "threads".
It went well enough until one day he dialed his hard drive, corrupting his Minix partition, and started implementing permissions. Gradually he added more and more until Linux 0.1 was born.
At least, this was according to the Linus biography written a decade ago or so.
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 18:02 · Score: 0

but he wasn't dumb enough to eat toe cheese on camera
Re:Oldest torrent on TPB isn't porn? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 19:28 · Score: 0

Yes, but the point is they both succeed or fail based on their determination and the strength of their ideas, not personal habits.
Both have image problems. Gates was smart enough to realize that perception is important to people, and adjusted his image accordingly.

It's a good documentary by Stormwatch · 2013-03-17 18:16 · Score: 4, Informative

Very outdated, but still incredibly interesting and didactic. Oh, obligatory link in case you want something even easier than torrenting.

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Re:It's a good documentary by Aaron+B+Lingwood · 2013-03-17 18:23 · Score: 4, Informative

Very outdated, but still incredibly interesting and didactic.
Thanks for the new word. First time in a while I had to head to the dictionary. A Wikipedia snippet for others that don't know this word:
Didacticism is a philosophy that emphasizes instructional and informative qualities in literature and other types of art. The term has its origin in the Ancient Greek word (didaktikos), "related to education and teaching", and signified learning in a fascinating and intriguing manner.

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Re:It's a good documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 19:18 · Score: 4, Funny

Oh, I'm sorry, sir. I'm anaspeptic, phrasmotic, even compunctious to have caused you such pericombobulation.
Re:It's a good documentary by crutchy · 2013-03-17 19:40 · Score: 2, Funny

well fuck me drunk over a bar stool sideways
Re:It's a good documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 20:56 · Score: 0

Even though it doesn't really reflect where Linux is today, I'm not sure I would say it's outdated. I often use it in my lectures about operating systems, since it is a pretty good documentary about the early days of Linux.
I would really love it if someone produced a documentary about what has happened to Linux in the last few years. With the success of Android and so on...
Re:It's a good documentary by dwywit · 2013-03-17 21:00 · Score: 1

Sausage? SAUSAGE?!?!?!?!

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Re:It's a good documentary by excelsior_gr · 2013-03-17 21:12 · Score: 1

I'm Greek, you insensitive clod!
Re:It's a good documentary by Aaron+B+Lingwood · 2013-03-17 21:45 · Score: 1

I'm Greek, you insensitive clod!
No need for anguish. I won't hold it against you.

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Re:It's a good documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 22:04 · Score: 0

Unless English isn't your first language, you're a fucking retard.
Re:It's a good documentary by Aaron+B+Lingwood · 2013-03-17 22:13 · Score: 4, Funny

Unless English isn't your first language, you're a fucking retard.
Oh, my very own troll. Can I keep it?

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Re:It's a good documentary by Lumpy · 2013-03-17 22:31 · Score: 3, Funny

You wont want to, they smell bad and have no imagination at all. They tend to repeat the same thing over and over like a broken furby.

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Re:It's a good documentary by chaos_technique · 2013-03-17 22:47 · Score: 1

Not to be confused with dildactics, which the greek name of the ancient art of dong-fu

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Re:It's a good documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 23:08 · Score: 0

You could say the word is... *puts on sunglasses* didactic!
Re:It's a good documentary by mrclisdue · 2013-03-17 23:13 · Score: 3, Funny

You promised to never share our secrets in public.
It's over.
Re:It's a good documentary by DerekLyons · 2013-03-17 23:41 · Score: 1

The Wikipedia quote is from Didacticism, the term the OP used is Didactic. While they share the same roots - they aren't the same word. (And didactic usually used as something of a pejorative.)
Re:It's a good documentary by zAPPzAPP · 2013-03-18 01:01 · Score: 1

And here I thought it was the xbox dashboard.
I remember getting that from TBP around the time.
Re:It's a good documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 01:24 · Score: 0

Extreme virginity detected.
Re:It's a good documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 01:40 · Score: 0

Are you sure?
English is my second language, but in Spanish it is quite commonly used, and is not pejorative at all...
Oh well, you learn something everyday.
Re:It's a good documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 02:32 · Score: 0

Didactic as a pejorative? Not in my view. While not a common word in everyday usage, I have come across it several times and had not seen it used as such. Interesting.
Re:It's a good documentary by Larryish · 2013-03-18 03:07 · Score: 2

YYEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
(insert cheesy glam-rock music here)
(cut to shots of places you'll never go and boats you can't afford crewed by women you can't have)
Re:It's a good documentary by spaceyhackerlady · 2013-03-18 03:36 · Score: 1

It's interesting to be able to put faces to names. But I've always had the nagging suspicion that the producers started out making a film about something else, ran out of money, and edited what they had in to Revolution OS.
...laura
Re:It's a good documentary by cbiltcliffe · 2013-03-18 04:00 · Score: 4, Interesting

Quite sure.
Mostly because, in America, anything to do with thinking is somewhat frowned upon....

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Re:It's a good documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 04:05 · Score: 0

You should have a look at my new book, "Teach Yourself Autodidactics."
Re:It's a good documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 06:05 · Score: 0

Don't be so rude, he's probably just American.
Re:It's a good documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 06:53 · Score: 1

YYEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
(insert cheesy glam-rock music here)
The Who are "cheesy glam-rock" to you?
THE WHO?!?
No, seriously, THE WHO are cheesy glam-rock?
Tommy would be ashamed.
Re:It's a good documentary by tendrousbeastie · 2013-03-18 07:21 · Score: 1

A, B ( a sort of buzzing thing )

Tautology Club by pushing-robot · 2013-03-17 18:20 · Score: 5, Funny

The Pirate Bay's oldest working torrent is still very much alive

In other news, the oldest living man is still alive, and the oldest standing structure hasn't yet fallen down!

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Re:Tautology Club by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 18:57 · Score: 0

no there is a distinction, working torrent as in not fubar and alive as in has active seeders.
Re:Tautology Club by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 19:01 · Score: 0

more like the oldest living man is still walking and talking
Re:Tautology Club by cheesecake23 · 2013-03-17 19:20 · Score: 4, Funny

The first rule of Tautology Club is the first rule of Tautology Club!
Re:Tautology Club by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 19:26 · Score: 1

Well, if you want to be technical, none of those are tautologies. They each fail to be true if there are no working torrents, living men, or oldest structures, or if these exist but there isn't a unique, maximally old one. (For example, perhaps several torrents were added simultaneously.)
HTH, HAND, YANAL (You Are Not A Logician)
Re:Tautology Club by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 19:27 · Score: 0

that should be standing structures, of course
Re:Tautology Club by toygeek · 2013-03-17 19:50 · Score: 2

"What is Tautology?" is a rhetorical question.

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Re:Tautology Club by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 20:05 · Score: 0

They each fail to be true if there are no working torrents
False. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuous_truth
Re:Tautology Club by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 20:17 · Score: 0

Your comment would make sense if the sentence was "The Pirate Bay's oldest torrent is still very much alive."
But it wasn't.
Re:Tautology Club by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 20:29 · Score: 0

The original English assertions aren't quantified, so if their subjects do not exist, they fail to refer to anything at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Present_King_of_France
Re:Tautology Club by complete+loony · 2013-03-17 22:08 · Score: 1

And if 1,000,000 people join this group it will have 1,000,000 people in it.

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Re:Tautology Club by JockTroll · 2013-03-17 23:34 · Score: 0

There's a legend about the oldest living man: whenever one dies, another will immediately take his place. There can only be one oldest living man alive.

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Re:Tautology Club by Thrill+Science · 2013-03-18 00:36 · Score: 0

But someone keeps killing the Oldest Living Man. Every couple of years, the current one dies. Someone should investigate!
Re:Tautology Club by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 02:26 · Score: 0

I take the sentence to mean "the oldest torrent with at least 1 seed has at least 10 seeds". Since s>=1 doesn't imply s>=10, it is not a tautology.
Re:Tautology Club by lister+king+of+smeg · 2013-03-18 04:37 · Score: 1

There's a legend about the oldest living man: whenever one dies, another will immediately take his place. There can only be one oldest living man alive.
Twins?

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Re:Tautology Club by Fluffeh · 2013-03-18 10:23 · Score: 2

Oh lordy, welcome to the Department of Redundancy Department.

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Re:Tautology Club by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-19 01:02 · Score: 0

There's a legend about the oldest living man: whenever one dies, another will immediately take his place. There can only be one oldest living man alive.
Twins?
Sorry, no... often born seconds or minutes apart.
If there ever were two "oldest living humans alive", they would most certainly not be twins

Re:still a crime by GPLHost-Thomas · 2013-03-17 18:21 · Score: 4, Informative

Not everyone lives in California. Downloading is legal in Switzerland for example (and there's other places where it is).

Re:still a crime by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 18:33 · Score: 5, Funny

Not everyone lives in California.

Okay, see, right there? You just lost 90% of Slashdot, either to blowing their minds out of their ears or to complete stodgy disbelief that the world ISN'T split into exactly four areas: California, Flyover Country, Japan, and Miscellaneous.

Re:What do you mean, oldest working? by Calydor · 2013-03-17 19:01 · Score: 1

What if no one has the file anymore? Didn't read the article, but off the top of my head I'd measure something like this by seeing if the possibility of getting the full file (in case no one has a full, but fragments on multiple systems put together would change that) becomes available within a certain time frame, maybe a week.

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Pirated copy? by Spy+Handler · 2013-03-17 19:29 · Score: 2

Why would you need to pirate it? Shouldn't a documentary about free open source movement be.... free?

Re:Pirated copy? by crutchy · 2013-03-17 19:43 · Score: 0

*slaps you*
you need to go and suck on stallman's toes for another six months till you get drummed into your head...
it's about free as in FREEDOM, not free as in FREE BEER
Re:Pirated copy? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 23:36 · Score: 1

Why would you need to pirate it? Shouldn't a documentary about free open source movement be.... free?
Just because the website's named "The Pirate Bay" doesn't mean everything there is pirated. The same goes for the protocol.
Re:Pirated copy? by DerekLyons · 2013-03-17 23:43 · Score: 1

Why? It's the owners choice as to whether or not something will be free. Making a documentary about something does not automatically mean having the same beliefs.
Re:Pirated copy? by nedlohs · 2013-03-18 00:42 · Score: 4, Funny

Just a documentary about the moon landing should land on the moon?
Re:Pirated copy? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 01:07 · Score: 0

Tell that to Red Hat
Re:Pirated copy? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 01:56 · Score: 0

It's OK to get a bit crazy sometimes.
Re:Pirated copy? by LordLimecat · 2013-03-18 03:22 · Score: 1

How DARE someone make a living off of OSS; and how dare Red Hat be responsible for most of the OSS presence in the business world!
Re:Pirated copy? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 03:33 · Score: 0

Why? It's the owners choice as to whether or not something will be free. Making a documentary about something does not automatically mean having the same beliefs.
In theory, the people who made a documentary about Linux might not be rabid free software fanboys. In practice, given how obscure Linux is, the odds that anyone who isn't part of the free software religion would bother to make a documentary are infinitesimal.
Re:Pirated copy? by Runaway1956 · 2013-03-18 07:04 · Score: 1

I think it was a double dog dare, so they couldn't just say "no".

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Summary of the documentary by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 19:36 · Score: 0

From the comments in the link ...

>>I'll save you the trouble of watching the documentary - here's the abridged version:
>>One student makes a semi decent clone of an OS invented by real software developers
>>Then cue 20 years of bickering and infighting about irrelevant bullshit like the pronunciation of 'GNU' and what window manager is better ....

>Linux is a kernel not an OS, Linux was a Minux Clone which ended up being superior to majority of OS kernel at the time which helped it take off

Re:Summary of the documentary by BanHammor · 2013-03-17 23:06 · Score: 1

Oh damn me. I like the POSIX standards, but saying "Linux is a semi-decent clone of Unix" (Or Minix, for that matter - see the microkernel debate) is lame. The rest is, essentially, democracy/meritocracy in a nutshell. We still have a very good system of interoperable components out of this.

Re:still a crime by crutchy · 2013-03-17 19:38 · Score: 3, Funny

you forgot unimatrix zero and endor... this is slashdot after all

Re:still a crime by thegarbz · 2013-03-17 20:21 · Score: 4, Funny

You just misspelt USA, USA, USA and USA.

Swing and a miss by bythescruff · 2013-03-17 20:31 · Score: 3, Informative

This was posted yesterday on Reddit, and refuted there as well; a couple of porn torrents are older.

Link: After nearly 9 years of seeding...

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Re:Swing and a miss by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 00:38 · Score: 0

The TorrentFreak article now mentions that too in an update.
Revolution OS is the oldest with >0 seeders and >0 leechers.
Re:Swing and a miss by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 00:40 · Score: 0

Oh, well, if the fuckwits on Reddit say it true...
Re:Swing and a miss by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 03:02 · Score: 0

FTFS: "oldest working torrent"
Re:Swing and a miss by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 03:07 · Score: 0

Actually the oldest one is neither porn nor the mentioned one, but this swedish Version of an old TV episode High.Chaparall.S02E02.PDTV.XViD.SWEDiSH-HuBBaTiX dated 03.25.2004

Oh, cm'on by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 20:43 · Score: 0

Real mathematicians count from zero and accept the empty set as a reasonable response for an all-quantifier. Then everything is well.

[QUOTE] The Great Philosopher by purpleidea · 2013-03-17 20:46 · Score: 2

"Think of Richard Stallman as the great philosopher and think of me as the engineer." -- Linus Torvalds

Re:[QUOTE] The Great Philosopher by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 21:35 · Score: 0

Great philosopher and lyricist. "Join us now and share the software. You'll be free hackers, you'll be free." Worth downloading just for the rocking version of this classic tune. Quite unforgettable.
Re:[QUOTE] The Great Philosopher by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 08:11 · Score: 0

I've got to meet Richard in February, in Bucharest. IMHO, he is a bit spoiled, but nonetheless, he is a fu*king funny guy. I laughed with tears at that joke with Saint Ignucius. Yeah, he is a great philosopher and a great man.

Re:still a crime by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 21:45 · Score: 0

We the Miscellaneous people, salute you.

Copyrighted movie about GNU is pirated on TPB. by Arancaytar · 2013-03-17 21:58 · Score: 1

The irony is staggering.

Re:Copyrighted movie about GNU is pirated on TPB. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 22:40 · Score: 0

Why? GNU zealots and pirates are two completely different groups with completely separate ideologies. I don't see the irony in it.
The only thing I find strange is that GPL have been fairly efficient when it comes to being a sort of DRM.
I am surprised that no-one have released GPL-software on TPB with the license stripped away yet.
Re:Copyrighted movie about GNU is pirated on TPB. by BanHammor · 2013-03-17 23:08 · Score: 1

Mostly because erasing the license is trivial, the software is easily-accessible without torrents, and anyone who wants to modify software and not give back usually hosts on more profitable venues than TPB.
Re:Copyrighted movie about GNU is pirated on TPB. by Raumkraut · 2013-03-17 23:17 · Score: 1

The only thing I find strange is that GPL have been fairly efficient when it comes to being a sort of DRM.
The GPL isn't about Digital Rights(/Restriction) Management, it's about Legal Rights Management. That is; it doesn't actively try to prevent you from breaking the license, it just describes consequences for doing so.

I am surprised that no-one have released GPL-software on TPB with the license stripped away yet.
Piracy isn't generally an intellectual philosophy for the abolition of copyright; it's a practical philosophy for getting stuff cheaply and conveniently - which the GPL already allows.
Re:Copyrighted movie about GNU is pirated on TPB. by wisnoskij · 2013-03-18 01:05 · Score: 1

Would of been better if it was a pirated copy of, "don't copy that floppy".
Unfortunately, they do not even have a copy of that film.

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Re:Copyrighted movie about GNU is pirated on TPB. by Rob_Bryerton · 2013-03-18 04:11 · Score: 1

YouTube to the rescue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI
Re:Copyrighted movie about GNU is pirated on TPB. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 08:19 · Score: 0

Why? GNU zealots and pirates are two completely different groups with completely separate ideologies. I don't see the irony in it.
The only thing I find strange is that GPL have been fairly efficient when it comes to being a sort of DRM.
I am surprised that no-one have released GPL-software on TPB with the license stripped away yet.
That's theft, you can't stripe licences away.
Anyway, the GPL is not a DRM. It just prevents other to make proprietary versions of that software. It's like the Human Rights declaration prohibits you the *right* to kill people (one may argue that killing other person is a right). In the same manner(by limiting something), the GPL prohibits you to subjugate others.

Re:still a crime by jones_supa · 2013-03-17 22:40 · Score: 1

Not everyone lives in California. Downloading is legal in Switzerland for example (and there's other places where it is).

But is it moral or immoral, that's the actual question.

Re:still a crime by mrclisdue · 2013-03-17 23:10 · Score: 1

But is it moral or immoral, that's the actual question.

It's amoral, so there is no question despite the best efforts of many to categorize it wrongly.

cheers,

No the real irony is... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · 2013-03-17 23:35 · Score: 3, Insightful

it's in a patent encumbered, non-open format! Even worse, it's inside of an AVI container. :)

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Irony aside... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-17 23:45 · Score: 0

Okay, irony of it being in a patent encumbered format, and the movie itself being copyrighted, but it might be a damn good oppertunity to stop and realise that Linux still MATTERS after all these years, and not just to techical types. I get a little of slashdot backlashers coming up with the same tired old 'Linux is for neckbeards, Windows/Apple is for real people', Linux matters to a lot of non-technical people too, me among them as explained in the linked article.

Re:Irony aside... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 05:46 · Score: 0

Are you sure you aren't reading articles from 6 years ago? I haven't seen anyone slag Linux outside of obvious trolling in a long time.

Re:still a crime by Bengie · 2013-03-18 00:25 · Score: 1

Downloading is fine in the USA also, it's the uploading while you download that gets you in trouble.

streamed by Korruptionen · 2013-03-18 00:32 · Score: 1

Actually, I just watched this on netflix. Really enjoyed it.

Sounds Interesting. by wisnoskij · 2013-03-18 01:06 · Score: 1

I might have to pirate that latter.

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Re:still a crime by Westwood0720 · 2013-03-18 01:43 · Score: 1

Exactly. I was shutoff once before. I called my ISP and a guy hinted to me that it was my uploads. Never once mentioned about downloading.

Its is really still alive? by TheSkepticalOptimist · 2013-03-18 01:52 · Score: 1

Or are people just seeding 99.98% of the thing and nobody knows how it ends?

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Re:Its is really still alive? by locopuyo · 2013-03-18 08:36 · Score: 1

You gave me a great idea for a troll.

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Re:still a crime by Graydyn+Young · 2013-03-18 01:56 · Score: 5, Funny

Ugh, Americans. I bet you couldn't even point out Miscellaneous on a map.

Slow news day? by LordLimecat · 2013-03-18 02:45 · Score: 1

No matter, just drop a headline on Slashdot thats only barely news but talks about { Religion | P2P | Politics }, and watch the page hits roll in!

Re:Slow news day? by iggymanz · 2013-03-18 03:16 · Score: 1

you forgot to add your posts to your logical-OR'd list. thanks for providing positive reinforcement to slashdot's behavior by posting and keeping the article threads alive.

Re:What do you mean, oldest working? by silentcoder · 2013-03-18 02:52 · Score: 1

It works, I saw a legal copy years ago and lost it in the meantime, but I wanted to show my wife something of what I do all day, so I downloaded that torrent a few weeks ago to watch with her.

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Re:still a crime by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 02:55 · Score: 1

Not everyone lives in California.

Okay, see, right there? You just lost 90% of Slashdot, either to blowing their minds out of their ears or to complete stodgy disbelief that the world ISN'T split into exactly four areas: California, Flyover Country, Japan, and Miscellaneous.

So it's not just between My Culture and Insensitive Clodistan?

Re:still a crime by GPLHost-Thomas · 2013-03-18 03:40 · Score: 2

Do you think it's moral that so many actors from Hollywood are millionaires? Do you think these studios care about morality? Do you think they care about morality when the RIAA attacks a mother, and try to make her pay 100k USD for 12 songs? Do you think that they don't do enough money maybe? Do you think it's normal that there is a copyright for 70 years, and that they never stop extending it? What do you think of the Mikey mouse Liberation Front, and Disney making money out of stories currently in the public domain, but fighting for their copyrights?

Do you think it is moral to disconnect someone from the Internet, even if needs it for work? Do you think it's moral that private company are becoming judges?

Trying to fool anyone with this concept of moral is useless, we all know it's not on the side of Hollywood and the RIAA, and even less on the side of the ISPs.

Re:still a crime by Lazere · 2013-03-18 04:10 · Score: 1

Methinks you might not know what "amoral" means....

Join us now and share the software... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 04:14 · Score: 0

Join us now and share the software. You'll be free, hackers, you'll be free.

A much younger CmdrTaco! by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-18 04:37 · Score: 0

I was just stoked to get to see Rob on there (minus a few years). It's on Netflix if anyone wants to view it.

Re:still a crime by tendrousbeastie · 2013-03-18 07:17 · Score: 1

That sounds like the old "two wrongs make a right" argument.

Explaining why the opposition is wrong does not make you right.

Re:still a crime by overlordofmu · 2013-03-18 15:25 · Score: 1

Actually, one of Aesop's fables specifically states that one wrong deserves another.

The Fox and the Stork: http://www.bartleby.com/17/1/19.html

Some people do think two wrongs do make a right, for instance, death penalty supporters think this way.

Re:still a crime by doccus · 2013-03-19 04:50 · Score: 1

You just misspelt USA, USA, USA and USA.

Actually, the spelling is correct.. Unfortunately for the nitpickers.. Usa, however, is in Japan, and had a strong manufacturing base in the 60s for products "Made in USA"

Re:still a crime by thegarbz · 2013-03-19 19:22 · Score: 1

Oh this garbage again?

Re:still a crime by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-20 12:39 · Score: 0

Those misinformation spewing people again...

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