Just how advanced do you think this algo is? You actually believe that it can understand an "idea"? Unless some major advancements in NLU happened while I was asleep last night, the proposed toxicity detector is going to be a glamourized swear word detector. There is no way it is capable of what you're accusing it of.
Exactly this! The toxicity detector doesn't know whether you're posing difficult questions and challenging prior conceptions. And it sure as shit doesn't know how people are going to feel about a comment. It's detecting the types of language used in toxic comments. That's it. Keep the naughty words to a minimum and you'll be golden.
Everybody keeps throwing around all of these ways that China could abuse this system, like discrediting based on social media post or publishing dissenting material. Thing is, they haven't implemented anything like that. So far the only thing that dings your score is criminal charges, traffic violations, and defaulting on loans. So it's like a cross between a criminal record and a credit score. Not very dystopian.
The big problem I'm seeing here is that it digs people into a hole. If a person is defaulting on loans too much, they end up in a situation where paying off future loans becomes more difficult. That seems counter productive.
Anybody in the field would just use a more specific term. In this case, "Computer Vision". I think the only field that would probably like the term AI back would be people making game-playing agents.
They are vague on the details, but it sounds like they are starting with fixing a congenital heart defect in certain types of badly inbred dogs. They even mention that it's not really age reversal but "pet owners won’t worry about semantics". As far as I can tell, they are just taking the anti-aging angle to drive the hype train.
It gets better. I just punched this into a compounding interest calculator: $3 a day for 40 years at a modest 6% outputs $172,526.71. Enough to have a major impact on one's lifestyle in during retirement.
Some people do this, but there are traditions involved beyond just putting a box on a shelf. It takes some space to build a little shrine, and there are incense involved. HK apartments can be really small.
Even if it works, you lose control over systems that you don't understand. And that gets expensive.
Ever worked for a bank? Prime example of this. Each of the major banks has one guy that understands the bottom layers of their stacks. He's in his 60s. He hasn't retired because the bank keeps driving dump trucks full of money up to his house. He knows more about banking than the CEO. He knows how to code on punch cards. He's been known to bite. You know a version of this guy, eh?
The current process when you need a change made is to make a request and wait 6 to 8 months and hopefully he gets back to you.
When that guy retires... I dunno man.
The 1/50k number and 1/100k numbers are clearly just made up. The Touch ID figure is a pretty blatant lie, fingerprints aren't even that unique.
And this article is proof that the 1/100k is also bullshit. Siblings for fucks sake!
This reminds me so much of the Nuance voice auth system that was supposedly 1/10k false positive rate, but anybody could log on as anybody else by doing a half-assed impression of their voice.
It does seem like whatever device is being used here went wrong in some way. Even if it's some kind of sonic weapon and brain damage was the intended effect, you would think it wouldn't be designed to make a noise.
He's not talking about replacing deep learning, just back-prop. That's the method used for training a network. Hinton thinks that an AI would need to learn without thousands of labeled examples, and back-prop isn't up to the task. I hope he's wrong, because replacing back-prop would be a real son of a bitch.
I really want to know where Apple is getting these false positive rates from. I've read reports from third-parties claiming that TouchID has a false positive rate as high as 1/200. Fingerprints, man. They aren't THAT unique.
And 1/1000000? First off, thats a suspiciously round number. Also, without a huge specificity for sensitivity trade-off, this just sounds way too good to be true. Kudos to Apple if I'm wrong.
If you're into this kind of thing, check out the Racetams family, or Bromantane. They're the current darlings of the noots community. Legal too (for the time being.)
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Just how advanced do you think this algo is? You actually believe that it can understand an "idea"? Unless some major advancements in NLU happened while I was asleep last night, the proposed toxicity detector is going to be a glamourized swear word detector. There is no way it is capable of what you're accusing it of.
Exactly this! The toxicity detector doesn't know whether you're posing difficult questions and challenging prior conceptions. And it sure as shit doesn't know how people are going to feel about a comment. It's detecting the types of language used in toxic comments. That's it. Keep the naughty words to a minimum and you'll be golden.
Everybody keeps throwing around all of these ways that China could abuse this system, like discrediting based on social media post or publishing dissenting material. Thing is, they haven't implemented anything like that. So far the only thing that dings your score is criminal charges, traffic violations, and defaulting on loans. So it's like a cross between a criminal record and a credit score. Not very dystopian.
The big problem I'm seeing here is that it digs people into a hole. If a person is defaulting on loans too much, they end up in a situation where paying off future loans becomes more difficult. That seems counter productive.
Can you imagine the house he could build in the rust-belt though? The price of an apartment in Manhattan will get you an entire city block in The D.
*chest
Anybody in the field would just use a more specific term. In this case, "Computer Vision". I think the only field that would probably like the term AI back would be people making game-playing agents.
They are vague on the details, but it sounds like they are starting with fixing a congenital heart defect in certain types of badly inbred dogs. They even mention that it's not really age reversal but "pet owners won’t worry about semantics". As far as I can tell, they are just taking the anti-aging angle to drive the hype train.
A correction would have them all go down to zero.
Plus at Starbucks you have to talk to a human. Unpleasant start to a day.
All those things that you mentioned would indeed fuck your life. But abstaining from Starbucks wouldn't, so I guess that's different huh?
It gets better. I just punched this into a compounding interest calculator: $3 a day for 40 years at a modest 6% outputs $172,526.71. Enough to have a major impact on one's lifestyle in during retirement.
And we'll be able to go outdoors into the courtyard every other Sunday.
That's not mandatory is it?
Spec Ops: The Line
It has a scene where you accidentally bomb a bunch of civilians, and the go through a nice walk through their neighbourhood.
Some people do this, but there are traditions involved beyond just putting a box on a shelf. It takes some space to build a little shrine, and there are incense involved. HK apartments can be really small.
Oh no, they're gentrifying the landfill depot?! Where will the rats live?
Even if it works, you lose control over systems that you don't understand. And that gets expensive.
Ever worked for a bank? Prime example of this. Each of the major banks has one guy that understands the bottom layers of their stacks. He's in his 60s. He hasn't retired because the bank keeps driving dump trucks full of money up to his house. He knows more about banking than the CEO. He knows how to code on punch cards. He's been known to bite. You know a version of this guy, eh?
The current process when you need a change made is to make a request and wait 6 to 8 months and hopefully he gets back to you.
When that guy retires... I dunno man.
Computers will not be capable of abstract thought
If a human can do it, a machine can do it.
Unless you think that abstract thought comes from your "soul" or some other form of mystical garbage.
the majority of people are totally unfit to code
Ya, all the people that didn't start learning to code when they were young and malleable.
No Alexa, that guy!
The 1/50k number and 1/100k numbers are clearly just made up. The Touch ID figure is a pretty blatant lie, fingerprints aren't even that unique.
And this article is proof that the 1/100k is also bullshit. Siblings for fucks sake!
This reminds me so much of the Nuance voice auth system that was supposedly 1/10k false positive rate, but anybody could log on as anybody else by doing a half-assed impression of their voice.
He meant to say it's like reverse-locusts that show up and barf delicious grain all over farmers fields.
It does seem like whatever device is being used here went wrong in some way. Even if it's some kind of sonic weapon and brain damage was the intended effect, you would think it wouldn't be designed to make a noise.
He's not talking about replacing deep learning, just back-prop. That's the method used for training a network. Hinton thinks that an AI would need to learn without thousands of labeled examples, and back-prop isn't up to the task.
I hope he's wrong, because replacing back-prop would be a real son of a bitch.
I really want to know where Apple is getting these false positive rates from. I've read reports from third-parties claiming that TouchID has a false positive rate as high as 1/200. Fingerprints, man. They aren't THAT unique.
And 1/1000000? First off, thats a suspiciously round number. Also, without a huge specificity for sensitivity trade-off, this just sounds way too good to be true. Kudos to Apple if I'm wrong.
If you're into this kind of thing, check out the Racetams family, or Bromantane. They're the current darlings of the noots community. Legal too (for the time being.)