Internet Sales Tax Vote This Week In US Senate

SonicSpike excerpts from CNet's coverage of the latest in the seemingly inevitable path toward consistently applied Internet sales taxes for U.S citizens: "Internet tax supporters are hoping that a vote in the U.S. Senate as early as today will finally give them enough political leverage to require Americans to pay sales taxes when shopping online. Sens. Mike Enzi (R-Wy.) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) are expected to offer an amendment to a Democratic budget resolution this week that, by allowing states to 'collect taxes on remote sales,' is intended to usher in the first national Internet sales tax." There goes one of the best ways to vote with your dollars.

Comments

Actually a Constituitonal tax all of a sudden

[roman_mir]

If it is passed and it meets the criteria of being uniform, then it is a Constitutional tax, I cannot say anything about it.

I can say that income tax is unconstitutional and it is collected unconstitutionally. The 16th amendment didn't specify actually what that tax was, and so it took SCOTUS to do it and SCOTUS specified that the only way that tax was legal if it was indirect (because it is not apportioned) and to make an income tax indirect, the person must be disconnected from the source of income, and this is only possible via a corporate balance sheet, so in reality what the IRS claims is an 'income' tax can only legally exist as a profit tax and individuals don't have profits (otherwise you should be able to have revenues and expenses and be able to deduct things like amortisation of your education and training, depreciation of your own body, etc.) There are many arguments explaining that there is no such thing as a law that forces a person to pay a mandatory income tax, you can read my comment about it that I linked to.

However a federally mandated sales tax is legal as long as it is uniform and can be collected in a uniform manner (so there is no discrimination against any people when the tax is collected, there should be a clear standard that would apply across all state borders, etc., as to how this is collected.)

So of-course by having BOTH the federal income tax and the federal sales tax, you are getting squeezed on all ends, it's obscene. Same thing is true of other countries of-course, but in USA the law is much more precise about things that the government cannot do (supposedly) but it does them anyway. Medicare and Payroll taxes for example are illegal for the same reasons that the income tax is illegal. By the way, payroll tax was only deemed Constitutional on a definition that it is not in fact tied to any benefit, because it's illegal to tax one person for a direct benefit of another, so this is one more way to understand, for those who don't, that they are not accruing any benefits in SS regardless of how much they contribute to it (SCOTUS: Flemming v. Nestor (1960), no one has an accrued property right to benefits from Social Security).

If this tax goes through you really should start thinking about all the ways that you are getting screwed, some are legal and some are not. The most insidious tax that any average means person pays on daily basis is the tax created by the Federal reserve - inflation. Every time something goes up in price rather than going down because of natural increase in efficiency and productivity in the market, you should thank your federal reserve printing those dollars (and Bernanke is quite explicit that he will keep printing money and just pouring it into the economy in every way, from government Treasury purchases to mortgages purchases to bank stimulus, whatever.

Here is something fun to watch.

Re:Typical

[HornWumpus]

They should get off their collective asses and start working harder then.