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Should Congress Telecommute?

schwit1 writes "Rep. Steve Pearce (R-N.M.) wants to create a 'virtual Congress,' where lawmakers would leverage videoconferencing and other remote work technology to conduct their daily duties in Washington from their home districts. Under a resolution Pearce introduced on Thursday, lawmakers would be able to hold hearings, debate and vote on legislation virtually from their district offices. The big loser would be the DC area and K Street in particular. The change would also be a double-edged sword for security."

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  1. Yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And then President Marissa Mayer should fire them for not working.

    1. Re:Yes! by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      They don't work now, so why not? I mean hell, the Senate just passed a budget for the first time in how many years?

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    2. Re:Yes! by camg188 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If it decreases the influence of lobbyists, then yes.

    3. Re: Yes! by noh8rz10 · · Score: 2

      here's the deal though: the things that congress actually does in chambers - voting, whatnot - are like 2% of their actual jobs. The other 98% are meetings, etc. you cant do this from palooka MT.

    4. Re:Yes! by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2

      They are as bad as The Daily Show and their breaks!

      The Daily Show does not have inroads into my wallet.

    5. Re: Yes! by davester666 · · Score: 2

      They haven't heard of direct deposit?

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    6. Re: Yes! by TapeCutter · · Score: 2

      This is the direct equivalent of a company lawyer giving a go/nogo on a contract he hasn't read.

      Not really. more akin to a board member who relies on the company lawyer to get it right. I do exactly the same thing when buying a house, I don't read the contract, I pay a lawyer to translate it into English. Politicians have a small army of qualified staff to ensure the bill meets their expectations, that's not negligence it's proper due diligence.

      The real problem in the US system is that it is considered normal for politicians to blatantly represent the interests of their sponsors, not the national interest, not the interests of their constituency, and certainly not the interests of the other politicians constituencies.

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    7. Re: Yes! by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      You mean lobbying would get more expensive and quite hard to pull off sensibly since you can't buy politicians by the batch anymore but have to pick them out one by one?

      The telecommuting idea just gained some merit, ya know?

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    8. Re: Yes! by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      It's kinda more traceable than that briefcase o'money.

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    9. Re: Yes! by shugah · · Score: 2

      The biggest downside is the inevitable tax payer funded broadband and video conferencing equipment in every member of Congress's homes. Probably cheaper than all the airfare, but I can bet a lot of members get the tax payer to fund their video toys, but still spend most of their time in Washington, because it's preferable to actually spending time in the dirty little backwaters they represent.

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  2. Why not? by Das+Auge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sure... Why not? They can work from the offices of the corporations and special interest groups that actually fund their decisions.

    1. Re:Why not? by ArsonSmith · · Score: 5, Interesting

      On the other hand those offices and corporations wouldn't have a single spot to send all their lobbyists too any more.

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    2. Re:Why not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wasn't real thrilled with the idea at first due to concerns around the integrity of the system, but then I imagined them working from a remote town hall and surrounded by their constituants instead of their peers and lobbyies. I think it could do great things for establishing accountability.

    3. Re:Why not? by fluffy99 · · Score: 2

      On the other hand those offices and corporations wouldn't have a single spot to send all their lobbyists too any more.

      Yes, that does reduce access to lobbyists, but also to other congress staff, voters, executive staff etc. Most congressional influence doesn't happen with face-face lobbyist time anyway. It's done with discreet campaign contributions after filtered and laundered through.other indirect channels.

      I do encourage more use of VTCs and teleconferencing because congressional travel expenses are excessive. If we're being told to VTC instead of travel at the working level (even for technical stuff that requires hands-on) then it's appropriate that the higher ups honor that mandate as well.

    4. Re:Why not? by Jubedgy · · Score: 2

      On the other hand, my elected representative was elected to represent MY (and my neighbors') interests, not the interests of bleeding heart liberals in NY. If by "increasing their awareness of others, empathy towards others" they stop representing my and my neighbors' interests, they will not be re-elected.

      Put another way, their power derives from consent of the governed. If they lose that consent by legislating in a way counter to their constituents' wishes, they will not remain in power. Even if it means the feelings of someone from the other side of the country get hurt.

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    5. Re:Why not? by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you don't have to show up, it removes most of the logistical issues that prevent regular people from serving. So the "fix" to government is to have a senate that looks like the house, and a house that is made up of 1,000,000 Americans representing local areas of 300-400 people each. The legislation from the house can be written like drunken ramblings, and the "bill" would be re-written in the Senate to resemble the existing laws. The Senate would be a sanity check on the mob, but reduced in power. 3/5 majority for anything to pass out of the house, and anyone with a 0% pass rate after 10 submissions loses the right to submit for the remainder of his term, but the people he represents can hold a re-election to fill the seat.

      If we are going to move to the information age, we might as well continue this "great experiment" as an experiment.

    6. Re:Why not? by magic+maverick+ · · Score: 2

      "The whole point of having a national capital is to encourage your representatives to take a wider view of things."
      I thought the whole point was to have a single point where all the reps (or whoever) could go and meet each other. Because, you know, most of human history has been without the sorts of ICT that makes telecommuting possible.
      How's a legislature supposed to operate without everyone in one place? Well, the answer, now, but not for most of the existence of legislatures, is ICT.

      Also, because a representative is supposed to represent a certain area, having them in that area, and susceptible to lobbying from organizations in that area, is far better than having them in the capital and susceptible to lobbying from national organizations who aim to create bad laws (for the rest of us). Would the DMCA have passed if there were "content" cartel lobbyists in Washington easily able to access all the reps?

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    7. Re:Why not? by ChrisMaple · · Score: 2

      In my view, the correct solution to the American problem is to break the country up. You could have these smaller states which deal with most matters, and they could unite for certain common goods like defence. [sic]

      You mean like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States

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  3. only if it saves money by Trepidity · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One justification for Congressional salaries is that they have to pay for a 2nd home in D.C. They also get taxpayer-funded travel between their home districts at DC, averaging >$2m per member of Congress. Are these expenses going to actually be cut if they move towards telecommuting?

  4. Not going to happen by russotto · · Score: 2

    This proposal fails to account for deals cut in smoke-filled back rooms (smoke-free back rooms for younger Democrats). Since most of what matters in government happens in such places, and they can't be replaced with teleconferencing for various reasons, this proposal won't work.

  5. Don't they already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I could swear 80% of them are just phoning it in.

  6. I've been yelling about this for a few years now. by smpoole7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've got mod points, but I don't care. This is one of my hot buttons. :)

    1. Senators and representatives would be closer to their actual constituents. There's at least a slightly improved chance that they'll actually vote the way the people who elected them want.

    2. It wouldn't save a lot of money on the grand scale, but it would be a useful symbol to cut the costs (heating, cooling, transportation) of clustering all the morons in Washington.

    2-1/2 - it would make it more difficult for lobbyists to buy an entire block of votes. This would force the LOBBYISTS to sink tons of money into travel to visit each Congresscritter. It's a beautiful thing. :)

    2-3/4: LOCAL news media would have better access to the Congresscritters, and if we're really lucky, they could watch the 'critter's local headquarters and report on who came and left that day -- including the aforementioned lobbyists. No large parking lots or hallways to more easily become "lost" in.

    3. We have the technology to make it secure. Video conferencing could replace endless meetings. AND SPEECHES. Man, getting rid of the speeches alone would be worth it.

    4. The really dumb ones wouldn't know how to vote electronically or attend the video conferences, acting as a natural selection effect on dumb votes!

    Who knows? We might actually (OK, I'm dreaming now) elect people with brains, who would at least be required to know how to write and operate a computer, instead of blowhards who are elected simply because they know how to speak well in front of a camera.

    Do it. I'm all for it.

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  7. Videoconferencing by MpVpRb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anybody who thinks videoconferencing is good must not have spent much time videoconferencing

  8. Sure, why not? by magic+maverick+ · · Score: 2

    And not only parliaments and similar, but also the various international gatherings, like the G20, APEC, and similar. Think of all the money that is spent on security at these big international conferences, protecting some of the scum (floats to the top) from the protesters. You could spend that money upgrading telecommunication links, invest in some really good videoconferencing stuff, and go.

    And it would work just as well for parliaments and congresses. The same argument for upgrading telecommunications links, which should go down well in rural areas. It would reduce the number of fist fights (one of the few downsides), get rid of heckling (the speaker can simply refuse to let a person's microphone be live) and so on. It would save a silly amount of money on airfares, 2nd houses etc. It would also reduce the amount of influence lobbyists have, as they can't just spend a day going and seeing six different people (30 in a week). They would actually have to fly or otherwise travel to each home district.

    Now, someone is thinking, but the real business gets done in the corridors, not in the actual meetings. And? All those lackeys can just get on the phone and talk to each other that way. It might even reduce the number of laws passed!

    Really I can't think of a major downside (OK, it does make it harder to bomb them all and thus wipe them all out at once).

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  9. Filibuster how? by Pitawg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This will give the old ones in power a means of censoring or silencing unpopular (to them anyways,) rants from either the other side of the aisle or freshmen seats. "He is not following Majority Rules! Cut that guy's feed!" C-SPAN cannot even keep a feed coming during "public" events, and you think this will change?

    This is just adding a new power to those in charge that would directly effect our governing. A switch to silence instead of a gavel and pleading.

  10. No way by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They already spend too much time in their home districts. Jet air travel allows them to constantly return to their home base, where they get constant earfuls of whining from their gerrymandered constituents (whatever the political slant of the particular district). So they pop back briefly into DC to work with colleagues who they now barely know, and with no motivation to compromise on *anything*.

    Hence, nothing gets accomplished, least of all steering this country away from financial crises.

    Presumably, this country was set up as a republic for a reason. One of those would be for the members of congress to actually spend time working together, for the good of the country as a whole.

    Now, if they want to improve how congress works, it would be better to pass a constitutional amendment prohibiting *lobbyists* from interacting with members of congress in person. Trackable email and video calls only.

    1. Re:No way by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2

      but trying to understand the most important issues in your home district/state and listening to your constituents should never be considered one of them.

      Why not? With the current gerrymandered districts, it's not hard to figure out exactly what the majority of constituents in each one think that they want. That's the easy part.

      The hard part is for congress to come up with some kind of common national plan of action rather than deadlock. That would generally require each member of congress to spend *less* time holed up in their own echo chambers and *more* time thinking about the country as a whole.

  11. Absolutely NOT by WindBourne · · Score: 3, Interesting

    These ppl need to meet each other and learn to trust the other guy.
    In fact, 3 nights a week, these ppl should be required to dine with each other.
    It is the insane attitudes towards each other that is causing them to not compromise.

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  12. Likely not actually saving any money by lorenlal · · Score: 2

    It may cut down on their travel expenses... but likely only to levels seen before congress adopted a "business in the middle of the week" schedule.

    They already have a hard time communicating and working together. If anything, they should be forced to live in close quarters and deal with each other until they can learn to get along like adults.

    1. Re:Likely not actually saving any money by penix1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Everyone harps on about the Congressional budget. It is a document that means absolutely nothing. It doesn't have to be voted on by the house, signed by the president nothing. It is a wish list only. The House, Senate and Presidential budgets mean zilch. They are solely used to beat up the others with politically. It isn't like the budgets set around the kitchen table at home.

      And while we are on the subject, if you have any debt whatsoever, you are running at a deficit. I argue there isn't a household in America that isn't running a deficit. Mortgages, credit cards, bank loans, student loans, etc are all deficit spending. The only difference is the size of income vs. deficit and the fact that every 6 months Congress goes through the pain of having to couple the spending they already did with the artificial boundary they setup known as the debt ceiling.

      Today's Congress lives on crisis of their own making. And the effect on the very real economy is devastating. Everything from the current sequester to the debt ceiling is of their own doing. It is little wonder their popularity ratings are in the single digits.

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  13. They need *more* face time, not less. by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One problem with our congress is that they don't like each other and they don't have much incentive to get to know each other. If they were to never actually meet one another, that would only make things worse.

    I would much rather have Congress work more like a game show, in which a congressional session lasts two months and takes place on a jungle island where the reps have to cooperate or die. When not in session, they could be in their home districts or whatever. For the same reason why juries can't produce just rulings if they're not sequestered together, Congress should be forced to hash out their business while sequestered. They could still have contact to their aids and research staff, but on the island, it would just be them, wild boars, and the occasional helicopter bringing food, beer and medicine.

    A telecommuting congress is pretty much exactly the opposite of what would help.

  14. Direct Democracy by tiger_turned_lion · · Score: 2

    200 years ago, the common, simple folk toiled in the fields all day while their better, nobler representatives gathered to discuss important issues in a far off city. This was the best way to self-govern based on the communication technology that was available: screaming at each other face-to-face in a capitol building. Since then, communication has come a long way. We have things such as email, phones, text, blogs, video, etc. So, now these "representatives" want to tele-commute? You bet! Maybe even the common, simple folk will realize we no longer need representatives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy We're moving in the right direction.