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FCC Chair Genachowski Resigns; What Effect on Net Regulation?

New submitter RougeFemme writes with news of Friday's announcement that FCC chairman Julius Genachowski will step down in the next several weeks (also at Politico), and asks "Obama promised us the continuation of a free, open Internet. Will the resignation of the FCC chairman have any affect on that 'net neutrality'?"

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  1. Net neutrality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will the resignation of the FCC chairman have any affect on that 'net neutrality'?"

    Probably not, a lot of Obama's voters care about that issue but the next republican administration will probably affect net neutrality since their campaigns are funded by people with a vested interest in tearing it down (starting with Rupert Murdoch and his lobotomised puppet Glenn Beck).

    1. Re:Net neutrality by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure a high percentage of Obama's supporters, or americans in general, know what net neutrality is. I don't think most videogame enthusiasts know how net neutrality is important to their future lives. I -know- most netflix users don't.

      That's important: most people aren't already "with" net neutrality. The pro net neutrality side is small, the telecom side is smaller, but they have money, our side does not. The only way we keep them from crapping up the internet is with significantly higher numbers, by explaining to people how losing net neutrality is going to mean worse graphics for their games, netflix dying out and going back to something closer to blockbuster, inflating prices for internet access, no increase in speed, and your favorite mom and pop websites being replaced by MTV, MSNBC, and FOX websites.

      In case you couldn't tell, I'm in favor of using FUD to our advantage. Feel free to try to convince people to care about net neutrality by honest, unbiased information, and feel free to call me a cynic for thinking that approach won't work.

    2. Re:Net neutrality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? You think it's only the Obama camp that has no clue? It goes far beyond your country's politics. Net being NOT neutral is in the best interest of everyone in power, regardless of what political faction they represent, or whether they are officially or unofficially in power. Internet gives everyone a right to have their voice heard, and voice is the last thing people in power want you to have. They'd rather have you quietly tick the box to signify who should have a go at ruling the stupid masses this time.

    3. Re:Net neutrality by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "In case you couldn't tell, I'm in favor of using FUD to our advantage. Feel free to try to convince people to care about net neutrality by honest, unbiased information, and feel free to call me a cynic for thinking that approach won't work."

      Try: "Better service, plus more freedom and privacy, for a lower price."

      If the freedom and privacy parts don't get them, maybe the better service and lower price parts will.

    4. Re:Net neutrality by ThisIsSaei · · Score: 1

      If anything, nanny-state filters are a leftist thing. See: Iceland.

    5. Re:Net neutrality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just go with things like, "Do you want Comcast to charge you another $20 a month for the priviledge of continuing to use Netflix?"

      And threats to net neutrality aren't safely partisan, so we should probably drop the BS and focus on the issue.

      I treat it like gun banning. I've contributed to a number of Democrats' campaigns, because they were strong supporters of the second ammendment. I act in my best interests, not the interests of any political party.

    6. Re:Net neutrality by jdogalt · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure a high percentage of Obama's supporters, or americans in general, know what net neutrality is. I don't think most videogame enthusiasts know how net neutrality is important to their future lives. I -know- most netflix users don't.

      In my book, the current most illuminating issue is my quixotic battle with Google Fiber over IPv6 based home servers. I think this is a core aspect of "Net Neutrality" that videogame enthusiasts should help spread the word about. The fact is, that the FCC's 2010 "Report and Order Preserving The Open Internet" (FCC10-201), actually, if read technically, does apply to home videogame servers, as well as all of Google and other established player's servers. But Google and the established players know there is a crapload of their existing cloud business turf that they need to protect against the wave of home serving that IPv6 can finally enable.

      Google and the FCC (and the Kansas Attorney General) have ignored my complaint (FCC REF#12-C000422224) for 6 months now, and somehow hearing this news does not give me hope for my cause in the short term. Which is why I'm focusing my efforts on information warfare to educate people about how the current manor in which net neutrality is being enforced, primarily only helps hypocrites on the issue like Google. Larry Page, if the slashdot AC's story is to be believed[1], is an especially open hypocrite on this issue (since allegedly, he is the one in charge).

      [1] http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3106555&cid=41288357

      full saga/manifesto- http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121007.pdf (lulu.com/cx1 preview feature has the submitted 53 page version)

    7. Re:Net neutrality by RougeFemme · · Score: 1

      I don't think people will "get it" until and unless the pendulum starts swinging the other way and they see the impact in their personal lives.

    8. Re:Net neutrality by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      The problem with using FUD is that it makes it all too easy for someone to sell something as "net neutrality" that is the exact opposite of what you mean by that term.

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      The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
    9. Re:Net neutrality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If anything, nanny-state filters are a leftist thing. See: Iceland.

      You don't know what net neutrality is, do you? It applies just as much to charging differentially by user, content, site, platform, application, type of attached equipment, and modes of communication as it does to national firewalls. Incidentally I'd not count Iran, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia as leftist nanny states.

    10. Re:Net neutrality by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Really? You think it's only the Obama camp that has no clue?

      To quote the first line of my own post you were responding to "I'm not sure a high percentage of Obama's supporters, or americans in general , know what net neutrality is."

      It has nothing to do with partisanship. Nothing happens for the people unless the people ask for it, whether it goes with the party's ideology or not. This has probably always been true, but it's definitely true now. If people don't demand net neutrality, no party, not R, not D, not independent, libertarian, american, communist, or whatever, is going to deliver it to them, unless it somehow becomes profitable for them to do so.

  2. Obama promised us.... by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That right there should tell you how that will turn out.

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    1. Re:Obama promised us.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahaha, no kidding. Seeing a particular politicians fans being upset over broken promises blows my mind.

    2. Re:Obama promised us.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...to do whatever his largest source of bri... er... campaign contributions want him to do...

  3. My question is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What company will be his new employer: Comcast? Verizon?

  4. unlimited power leads to unlimited corruption? by HavenBastion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it's pretty goddamned ridiculous that one person can presumably have so great an effect on the freedom of us all in a way that goes well beyond national boundaries or the ability of any single individual to know if they're doing the right thing.

    1. Re:unlimited power leads to unlimited corruption? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More worrisome is that it isn't an elected position. It's appointed.

    2. Re:unlimited power leads to unlimited corruption? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think if we elected someone in a coma as president, things couldn't get as bad as they appear to be headed, and might actually turn out better.

    3. Re:unlimited power leads to unlimited corruption? by Trepidity · · Score: 3, Informative

      Does the FCC chairman actually have much power?

      As far as I can tell:

      1. They can't make any significant decisions themselves. All actual power in the FCC is held by the 5-member FCC board, which is required to have at least 2 members from each of the major parties.

      2. Most of the ridiculous things about telecom law are passed by Congress, not decided by the FCC itself (and certainly not individually by the FCC chairman). And if Congress wanted to fix any of them, they could pass better laws: even for the things the FCC does have the authority to make decisions on, it's precisely because Congress punted on making a decision, and delegated the authority.

    4. Re:unlimited power leads to unlimited corruption? by rnturn · · Score: 1

      And... with two members of the FCC board leaving, will anything at all get done? If the FCC rules are anything like those of the NLRB, they may not have a quorum and would be prevented from making any decisions regarding regulation at all. I fully expect that any nominees to the FCC will be blocked by an anonymous senator making a simple phone call to the Senate leadership that will neatly prevent anyone's nomination going to the floor for a vote and leaving the FCC toothless. Nothing will get done.

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      CUR ALLOC 20195.....5804M
  5. Re:I regulate the net with my hosts file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Damn, this stupid post snuck through my HOSTS file again!

    PROOF apk sucks donkey dick.

  6. Never forget by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/f-c-c-commissioner-to-join-comcast/

    Four months after the Federal Communications Commission approved a hotly contested merger of Comcast and NBC Universal,
    one of the commissioners who voted for the deal said on Wednesday that she would soon join Comcast's Washington lobbying office.

    --
    [Fuck Beta]
    o0t!
    1. Re:Never forget by RanchNachos · · Score: 1

      how is this even legal?

  7. Void by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There isn't going to be another FCC chairman for at least 2 years then. There is no way anyone will clear congress. Any position that is vacated will not be filled so long as the republicans have more than 39 seats in the senate. They don;t care who it is or how important their job is, they will fillibuster any and everyone because Harry Reid agreed to leave them that power instead of stripping it.

  8. Obama promises.... by JDAustin · · Score: 1

    Every one of Obama's campaign promises comes with a expiration date...

    1. Re:Obama promises.... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      "Every one of Obama's campaign promises comes with a expiration date..."

      I can hardly wait for the expiration date of his term in office. The guy is evil. Sadly, he's evil in such a way that many Americans don't even see it. And that just adds to the evil.

    2. Re:Obama promises.... by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      What, you have evidence his replacement will be any different?

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    3. Re:Obama promises.... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      "What, you have evidence his replacement will be any different?"

      I wouldn't call it evidence, but if the trends shown with the last 3 Presidents are any indication, the next one will be even worse.

      (1) Clinton. - I wouldn't call him a GREAT President, but at least his administration had the economy in order.

      (2) George W. Bush - What can I say?

      (3) Barack Obama - Yikes! Run for the hills! Stock up on food and ammo while you can still get them!

  9. Won't Be Missed By Broadcasters And OTA TV Fans by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 1

    While the transition from analogue to digital OTA television was decades in the making, Julius Genachowski saw the actual cut-over event as an opportunity to supply newfound spectrum to the suddenly burgeoning wireless data and mobile phone industry segments. Genachowski was the driving force in trying to squeeze down the amount of broadcast spectrum that had been given long ago to analogue OTA TV broadcasting. Historically, the reassignment of analogue UHF TV channels 70 through 83 to other industries in the 1980s was accomplished with very little difficulty, but in the digital OTA TV transition the UHF TV channels 52 through 69 were reassigned to wireless data broadcasting as part of the entire project. For consumers and most OTA TV broadcasters, the first transition seems to have worked well, such that 1080i or 720p ATSC High Definition TV with Surround Sound is commonly available in major U.S. markets using MPEG2 data transport streams. Having overseen that massive transition successfully, Genachowski proposed a next wave, in which the "white space" gaps surrounding OTA TV stations in the UHF TV band (channels 14 through 51) would be assigned to wireless devices. Unfortunately this is where technology appeared to be outstripped by reality, as well-known TV signal propagation effects were to be somehow conquered by "white space" devices in their routine operation. Likewise, the new devices were not to harm existing TV signals. Realistically, the potential for interference has been seen to be too great a risk to the TV broadcasters, and debate has raged. Not to be dissuaded by the likely failure of the "white space" plans, Genachowski has spearheaded a move to once-again cut the available OTA TV broadcast spectrum via a "repacking" all TV stations into yet a smaller spectrum slice (fewer number of channels) by such proposed methods as the change of compression from MPEG2 to the superior MPEG4 data transport standard, which allows 1080i or 720p ATSC streams using much less bandwidth than the MPEG2, therefore requiring much less space on the broadcast spectrum. Such a hardware-based transition would be a huge cost burden to consumers as their existing ATSC TV tuners would be rendered as obsolete as the old analogue NTSC ones now are. Broadcasters have fought hard to prevent or resist such a repacking, pointing out with a sense of victimization that at no time has Julius Genachowski seriously proposed similar technical overhauls of the mobile phone and/or WiFi industry with the onus that they use their allotted spectrum in more efficient ways. From the consumer perspective, with the rapid and ongoing churn of technology in the hand held and mobile device marketplace, products are made obsolescent in only a few years, while in regards to TV reception consumers expect and demand many years of expected service from their existing hardware. Transitions occur frequently in the mobile phone and wireless industries, but are extremely disruptive to OTA TV consumers and broadcasters. So, from the perspective of the OTA TV broadcasters, Genachowski's exit is not a sad occasion.

    --
    I deny that I have not avoided attaining the opposite of that which I do not want.
    1. Re:Won't Be Missed By Broadcasters And OTA TV Fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      never lived anywhere that had more than a FEW channels anyway. And I've lived in ALOT of places...

  10. Not much will change by isdnip · · Score: 2

    First off, it should be understood that the existing "net neutrality" rules (FCC Rules 47CFR Part 8) are being challenged in the courts, and odds on will be overturned. That's because they were designed to be overturned! They were a political feint designed to get past the last elections before the (DC Circuit) court got to them, which will be this year. Before adopting Part 8, the FCC suggested other rule options that would have been legal, but they put flagrant errors in their actual Order, as if to say "overturn me!". (The biggest one was hanging it on Section 706, basically a legal footnote, which doesn't grant that power, rather than Title II of the law, which could, if applied correctly, which would probably have opened the telco networks a bit more.)

    This is a good thing. The rules, were they to stand, would be very dangerous.

    The commercial Internet did not get created by government-imposed rules; it was however created because government-imposed rules on the telephone companies required them to allow ISPs to use their facilities. The key rule, dating back to 1980, was called Computer II. So ISPs could lease lines for business and do dial-up for consumers. And until 2005 ISPs could lease DSL for consumers too. Then the FCC, which had shifted in 2001 (hmmm... who took over that year?) to become very strongly in cahoots with the Bell companies (SBC/ATT, VZ, Qwest). They "deregulated" the phone companies, allowing them to not provide access to ISPs, so the phone companies could be the only ISPs on their DSL and fiber networks.

    Telco networks were common carriers. They had to be absolutely, totally content-neutral, as they were tariffed as "dumb" bit pipes. ISPs are legally treated as "information" providers, which grants editorial control and is meant to be the content, not the carriage. They are largely used like carriers, but that's because the carriers suck so bad.

    It was a couple of months after that FCC move that the term "network neutrality" came out. It was a terrible idea, meaning that because there was no competition any more for Internet, just cable vs. telco, the Internet itself should become content-regulated. So spammers, pirate CDNs, and other miscreants would have the right to congest your ISP and your ISP would not be allowed to do anything about it. They could do "reasonable network management", though, which means, basically, "whoever makes the most campaign contributions wins". Small ISPs would be creamed; Verizon (the law firm with an antenna on the roof) could do anything, including block much-wanted content.

    Julius did very little to fix this. Until 2011 he had a real hard-on for Verizon FiOS, though when VZ said they were discontinuing its expansion, he got ticked. The previous Chairman, Kevin Martin, hated hated hated Comcast (which is run by Democrats); Julius G was friendly to them. But didn't change the FCC's anti-competitive trajectory very much. Wall Street likes monopolies. Julius is a Wall Street kind of guy (a VC).

    So long as people argue for Internet content regulation ("network neutrality"), instead of for a free choice of ISPs ("open networks"), they'll be spinning their wheels. Alas, the next Chairman (probably Wheeler, Kornbluh, Sandoval, Levin, or Strickling) is unlikely to change much. Susan Crawford would really shake things up, but is probably too controversial to get the job.

    1. Re:Not much will change by jdogalt · · Score: 0

      note that parent author isdnip wrote this choice comment last year-

      "No, NAT will not die. NAT is a good idea, not a bad one. Virtually everyone uses firewalls nowadays, most of which do NAT, which adds a level of security (not enough by itself, but it helps).

      It is a critical flaw in TCP/IP architecture that the application translates the name to the address and sees the IP address. And there's never a good reason for applications to have numeric IP addresses inside them. NAT only breaks broken applications. IPv6 is Just Plain Stupid. It's ugly and it wants to die. And it will. The people who are pushing it are the kind of people who seek out authority in order to obey it blindly."

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2901899&cid=40251831

    2. Re:Not much will change by isdnip · · Score: 1

      Yes, I did, and I stand by my words. But it has nothing to do with Julius or his successor. Except that the FCC now and then talks about encouraging IPv6, as if it were The Thing To Do, probably because some financial capital types told them there's money in it. This is one more reason why I don't trust the FCC to do their planned "IP transition", as if that were the solution to telephone network modernization. That and 759 pages of a relevant Order that never mentioned the existence of the session border controller.

    3. Re:Not much will change by jdogalt · · Score: 1

      IPv6, at least as it was taught to me in my computer engineering degree, was about several things, though the most prominent is simply the transitioning from 32 bit to 128 bit addresses, thus making IP addresses not a scarce resource. That sounds good to me. In fact I eagerly awated it for a decade such that it would allow me to run, e.g. a quake3 video game server at home, without any valid reason for my "Internet Service Provider" to complain. Of course when Google was my first ISP offering residential IPv6, I pretty much had my brain explode when their terms of service stated that all residential users were prohibited from running any server of any kind. If you've got an alternate arcitecture that would allow me to run a quake3 videogame server on my residential internet access, I'm all ears. Because, while some of the things you say sound crazy, some of them sound smart enough to warrant closer attention.

    4. Re:Not much will change by isdnip · · Score: 1

      All I can say is that this proves how computer engineering curricula today suck. I've been in the network business for decades, and work closely with people who were there when the IPNG fiasco led to IPv6. It ain't pretty and it was a total fustercluck.

      Not wanting customers to have servers at home is a different problem entirely.

  11. Call Me a Cynic by ks*nut · · Score: 1

    Now why in the world would anyone give up such a powerful position? I know, he's going to donate all his time and energy to charitable organizations. Yeah, I didn't really think so either.

    1. Re:Call Me a Cynic by RougeFemme · · Score: 1

      Nah. . .I'm sure he's leaving to spend more time with his family.

  12. If Obama promised it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... you can be sure you won't be getting it.

  13. Vamp by x181 · · Score: 1

    Vampire Bueller's Day Off.