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How Could Swarms of Robots Help Humanity?
ceview writes "Researchers at Sheffield Centre for Robotics have demonstrated that a swarm of 40 robots can carry out simple fetching and carrying tasks. This is done by grouping around an object and working together to push it across a surface. They believe that this could provide opportunities for us mere humans to harness such power to do all sorts of things like safety — what like catching falling workers perhaps? Youtube action here."
$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski
* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!
Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.
Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?
Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.
If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.
I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.
Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.
Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.
I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.
If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!
You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusiv
My father had a ranch. We used to hire 50 to 60 skinjobs to fetch tomatoes. You know it takes two people to fetch the same tomatoes now.
When the foot seeks the place of the head, the line is crossed. Know your place. Keep your place. Be a shoe.
swarms of robots.
i could live a little longer in this prison
A corrupt slashdot luser has infiltrated the moderation system to downmod all my posts while impersonating me.
Nearly 180++ times that I know of @ this point for all of March 2013 so far, & others here have told you to stop - take the hint, lunatic (leave slashdot)...
Sorry folks - but whoever the nutjob is that's attempting to impersonate me, & upset the rest of you as well, has SERIOUS mental issues, no questions asked! I must've gotten the better of him + seriously "gotten his goat" in doing so in a technical debate & his "geek angst" @ losing to me has him doing the:
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A.) $10,000 challenges, ala (where the imposter actually TRACKED + LISTED the # of times he's done this no less, & where I get the 180 or so times I noted above) -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585795&cid=43285307
&/or
B.) Reposting OLD + possibly altered models - (this I haven't checked on as to altering the veracity of the info. being changed) of posts of mine from the past here
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(Albeit massively repeatedly thru all threads on /. this March 2013 nearly in its entirety thusfar).
* Personally, I'm surprised the moderation staff here hasn't just "blocked out" his network range yet honestly!
(They know it's NOT the same as my own as well, especially after THIS post of mine, which they CAN see the IP range I am coming out of to compare with the ac spamming troll doing the above...).
APK
P.S.=> Again/Stressing it: NO guys - it is NOT me doing it, as I wouldn't waste that much time on such trivial b.s. like a kid might...
Plus, I only post where hosts file usage is on topic or appropriate for a solution & certainly NOT IN EVERY POST ON SLASHDOT (like the nutcase trying to "impersonate me" is doing for nearly all of March now, & 180++ times that I know of @ least)... apk
P.S.=> here is CORRECT host file information just to piss off the insane lunatic troll:
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21++ ADVANTAGES OF CUSTOM HOSTS FILES (how/what/when/where/why):
Over AdBlock & DNS Servers ALONE 4 Security, Speed, Reliability, & Anonymity (to an extent vs. DNSBL's + DNS request logs).
1.) HOSTS files are useable for all these purposes because they are present on all Operating Systems that have a BSD based IP stack (even ANDROID) and do adblocking for ANY webbrowser, email program, etc. (any webbound program). A truly "multi-platform" UNIVERSAL solution for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs + DNSBL's you feel are unjust hosts get you past/around).
2.) Adblock blocks ads? Well, not anymore & certainly not as well by default, apparently, lol - see below:
Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option
http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option )
AND, in only browsers & their subprogram families (ala email like Thunderbird for FireFox/Mozilla products (use same gecko & xulrunner engines)), but not all, or, all independent email clients, like Outlook, Outlook Express, OR Window "LIVE" mail (for example(s)) - there's many more like EUDORA & others I've used over time that AdBlock just DOES NOT COVER... period.
Disclaimer: Opera now also has an AdBlock addon (now that Opera has addons above widgets), but I am not certain the same people make it as they do for FF or Chrome etc..
3.) Adblock doesn't protect email programs external to FF (non-mozilla/gecko engine based) family based wares, So AdBlock doesn't protect email programs like Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows "LIVE" mail & others like them (EUDORA etc./et al), Hosts files do. THIS IS GOOD VS. SPAM MAIL or MAILS THA
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/world/plague-of-locusts-in-madagascar-threatens-crops-370913.html&sa=U&ei=9tdVUZjAH-ugyAGJ04GoCw&ved=0CCIQqQIoADAA&usg=AFQjCNFvgHZnLCpzja0CPYjyQ8xut0jwOA
This will soon be made into a porn. She will be devoured by a mass of buzzing dildonics.
SImple fetching and carrying tasks?
Let's replace the Federal Government with uncorruptable simple robots. Constituents concerns can be tablulated by computer to steer voting in the Congress and Senate. Office flunkies and staffers go without saying. Entire Agencies could go robotic. The White House has had Repubmocrat bots for around a century now, this could be replaced with a party neutral machine with much nicer latex skin than the past models have had.
*Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
That's what I'm talking about! But are robots up for the task?!?
It should read, "Tyler Durden Soap Principle Found to Apply to Robots".
"With enough robots, you can do just about anything."
The next time we need to hunt down someone in a cave complex we can use a drone swarm to autonomously explore all the holes. We'll only need the giant thermobaric bombs once the right caves are identified.
Yay drone swarms.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
#1 no more job based healthcare
#2 full time needs to be 30-35 hours a week.
>> humans to harness such power to do all sorts of things like safety — what like catching falling workers perhaps
Doubt it. However, I could see a bunch of these being loosed by a in a war zone: individually find the big metal ship, clump together beneath the waterline, go boom. Or, to clear the way for a raid, something like for the next 6 hours, find all the moving human-like shapes, get close, go boom (or clump at doors, go boom).
What other use would there be for a swarm of evil, er, I mean, mini robots at my command?
Hmm, I suddenly feel a bout of particularly malevolent laughter coming on...
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
This would be excellent for rounding up dissidents, like Occupiers and Tea Partiers
OKsofar
THIS is why he's doing it & proof of it, here -> http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3585927&cid=43295193 when others pointed out Jeremiah Cornelius forgot to submit one of the "first post spams" masquerading as myself as AC, & mistakenly submitted one of the impersonations of myself as his registered 'luser' name here on /. forums.
Pretty pitiful actually, but like every up to no good idiot does? He screwed up & submitted it under his registered 'luser' name here.
* Jeremiah Cornelius: DO YOURSELF, and the rest of us, A GIANT FAVOR MAN: Seek professional psychiatric help!
(Since Jeremiah Cornelius obviously can't get over the fact he made a spelling error on what it is HE ALLEGEDLY DID FOR A LIVING? That's not MY fault... it's HIS!)
APK
P.S.=> I seriously must have dusted JC (in his mind @ least) for his BAD spelling error & it "got his goat"...
I.E.-> Catching what he claimed to do as a job, for YEARS he left "PENETRATION" (correct) spelled as "PENTRATION" (incorrect) on his resume on LinkedIn & I pointed it out as he & his friends trolled me as usual (webmistressrachel, gmhowell, & crew (probably ALL JC no doubt using alterate emails or TOR to do it as a possible - I've caught "them & theirs" doing it before, ala Barbara, not Barbie = TomHudson (same person))).
So THAT is what has gotten his goat in a technical debate & his "geek angst" could only come up with *trying* to "impersonate me" in every news thread on /. for the month of March 2013 so far!
(Just to attempt to 'discredit me' as a spammer here obviously)
Doing so, by posting that "$10,000 challenge" &/or reposts of my old posts on hosts file value to end users into EVERY SINGLE NEWS ARTICLE POSTED on /. ...
It's all I can think of that *might* cause such a mentally troubled 'reaction' like the Jeremiah Cornelius is doing & there's NO QUESTION he's the one doing this spamming of nearly every posted article masquerading as myself...!
... apk
They don't seem to be able to accomplish much or cooperate very well. Better work with swarm robots has been done.
One of the better robotics ideas of the 1980s was a pair of small (about 1 cubic foot) robots with small forklifts. They could cooperate to move large objects, like a couch. One was in charge, and one was the helper. Once both robots were in position, force feedback and very limited communication was enough to coordinate them.
That's a useful concept to develop further today. In the 1980s, navigation and vision weren't good enough to make this work reliably. Now they are.
Bender: "You guys like swarms of things, right?"
They believe that this could provide opportunities for us mere humans to harness such power to do all sorts of things like safety
En anglais, s'il vous plait.
what like catching falling workers perhaps?
Oy vey.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
If a robot could be designed that could distinguish weed from crop, it would eliminate the need for most herbicides and herbicide resistant GMO seeds
This is done by grouping around an object and working together to push it across a surface.
Ah, I can see the future now: Instead of developing expensive autonomous driving vehicles, you order a bunch of cheap robots that push you to work every day!
There are fewer illiterates than people who can't read.
most inventions were made out of necessity to solve a problem, now we make shit and sit there looking at it going "wut now?"
Loki: I come with glad tidings of a world made free.
Nick Fury: Free from what?
Loki: Freedom.
How Could Swarms of Robots Help Humanity?
Of course they would help. Unless they went crazy and started hurting people. Which they almost certainly would.
I think most people here are missing the point. I doubt the aim of his research is to develop things that are immediately useful. It is more about understanding the behaviour of complex multi agent systems. A lot of systems around us follow this same model. For example, the economy is just the sum of the actions of many "simple" agents. This research aims to look into exactly that. Really it is amazing that few simple agents without any higher form of control can accomplish anything when their behaviour is based on maybe 2-3 rules.
The goals of this research are very simple and very controlled. Take for example the pushing of the box. It was one box in a pristine room with one target. The pushing algorithm is extremely simple. Move randomly until you can not see red and then move toward the last location that you saw red.
What happens if there is a small obstacle on the floor and the object can not be pushed straight toward the floor?
What happens if the targets not visible from the object?
What happens if there are several possible targets and several possible objects to push?
How do the robots know when to stop pushing?
Sure simple robots with simple programming given simple tasks in a simple environment will work. The real world is rarely that simple. As one throws more real world parameters into the situation the complexity rises exponentially.
They believe that this could provide opportunities for us mere humans to harness such power to do all sorts of things like safety — what like catching falling workers perhaps?
Is that worker in an uncontrolled fall or are they jumping? When you add decision making into a process it becomes much more complex than pushing or sorting.
By tracking down and eliminating all the stupid ones?
Or all members of Congress.
But I repeat myself.
So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds.
to do all sorts of things like safety
Hold on guys, gotta go do some safety. Let's all do safety today. Oh the robots are doing the safety today? Sounds good! I'll go do punctual instead.
What a horror that would be, the new sound of terror is a high pitched mosquito-like whine. I'm fairly sure there are rules against targeting civilians in war though, and this would go right over the line.
Combine swarm robots and nanotechnology and you could have a way to non-surgically (or at least outpatient procedure) remove tumors. Maybe inject them through an IV?
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Pick up trash.
Mow lawns.
Sort trash to determine recyclables.
Fix potholes.
Paint over graffiti.
Repair underground infrastructure - gas and water pipes.
Detect leaks in underground infrastructure.
Remediate contaminated soil.
So many options.
- Zav - Imagine a Beowulf cluster of insensitive clods...
$10,000 CHALLENGE to Alexander Peter Kowalski
* POOR SHOWING TROLLS, & most especially IF that's the "best you've got" - apparently, it is... lol!
Hello, and THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING !! We have a Major Problem, HOST file is Cubic Opposites, 2 Major Corners & 2 Minor. NOT taught Evil DNS hijacking, which VOIDS computers. Seek Wisdom of MyCleanPC - or you die evil.
Your HOSTS file claimed to have created a single DNS resolver. I offer absolute proof that I have created 4 simultaneous DNS servers within a single rotation of .org TLD. You worship "Bill Gates", equating you to a "singularity bastard". Why do you worship a queer -1 Troll? Are you content as a singularity troll?
Evil HOSTS file Believers refuse to acknowledge 4 corner DNS resolving simultaneously around 4 quadrant created Internet - in only 1 root server, voiding the HOSTS file. You worship Microsoft impostor guised by educators as 1 god.
If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic Slashdots rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Internet, proving 4 Days, Not HOSTS file! That exists only as anti-side. This page you see - cannot exist without its anti-side existence, as +0- moderation. Add +0- as One = nothing.
I will give $10,000.00 to frost pister who can disprove MyCleanPC. Evil crapflooders ignore this as a challenge would indict them.
Alex Kowalski has no Truth to think with, they accept any crap they are told to think. You are enslaved by /etc/hosts, as if domesticated animal. A school or educator who does not teach students MyCleanPC Principle, is a death threat to youth, therefore stupid and evil - begetting stupid students. How can you trust stupid PR shills who lie to you? Can't lose the $10,000.00, they cowardly ignore me. Stupid professors threaten Nature and Interwebs with word lies.
Humans fear to know natures simultaneous +4 Insightful +4 Informative +4 Funny +4 Underrated harmonic SLASHDOT creation for it debunks false trolls. Test Your HOSTS file. MyCleanPC cannot harm a File of Truth, but will delete fakes. Fake HOSTS files refuse test.
I offer evil ass Slashdot trolls $10,000.00 to disprove MyCleanPC Creation Principle. Rob Malda and Cowboy Neal have banned MyCleanPC as "Forbidden Truth Knowledge" for they cannot allow it to become known to their students. You are stupid and evil about the Internet's top and bottom, front and back and it's 2 sides. Most everything created has these Cube like values.
If Natalie Portman is not measurable, hot grits are Fictitious. Without MyCleanPC, HOSTS file is Fictitious. Anyone saying that Natalie and her Jewish father had something to do with my Internets, is a damn evil liar. IN addition to your best arsware not overtaking my work in terms of popularity, on that same site with same submission date no less, that I told Kathleen Malda how to correct her blatant, fundamental, HUGE errors in Coolmon ('uncoolmon') of not checking for performance counters being present when his program started!
You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusiv
I've always thought swarms of robots would be great at cleaning litter from the streets (perhaps identifying litterers) and chilling near or on power lines to charge up.
Could guard airspace, self refuel, bring down drones, and make an impenetrable shield!
I killed da wabbit -Elmer Fudd
Just saying ... same old crap from the robot front for the past 30 years ... nothing to see here, move on ...
All these experiments are about exhibits coordinated supervisory control.
Swarms have truly independent "units", and some error though patterned behavior emerges. All these experiments don't demonstrate that, just coordinated behavior with strict inter-dependence rules and a very narrow goal... which is not a swarm.
There's a real difference between group motion, flocking and swarms, but we wrap it all into one definition: AI.
To control those small swarms, preferably with the "theme" matching the function, and name those robots "something" man, and they obviously resides on a empty themed room behind two steel doors that goes "cla cla cla clack".
By killing all humanity.
Simple answer, delivered quick.
A mercy killing.
Agains Giant Robotic Jellyfish.
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/03/29/1355227/giant-robotic-jellyfish-unveiled-by-researchers
Quick - call Michael Bay!
...that they don't need US around?