if you REALLY believe that, and weren't just trolling with an agenda, you wouldn't have ignored the fact that NON-autopilot accidents in a Tesla are still 4 times less likely than the average car. This is likely because of its advanced warning and automatic braking features -- Autopilot technology that is always active on the car, whether the driver is using autopilot or not, or even paid for the autopilot upgrade.
but haha you and i both know you're not here to have an honest discussion.
Tesla vehicles in Q4 2018 experienced accidents at a rate of 1 accident per 2.87 million miles driven with Autopilot engaged, and one accident every 1.76 million miles without Autopilot. The average car in America experiences 1 crash every 436,000 miles (these stats do not take fault into account). Effectively, a Tesla is 4 times less likely than the average car to get into an accident, and that number jumps to 6 times less likely when using Autopilot (which is constantly improving).
so in other words you know literally nothing about those technologies and are just mad because you misinterpreted the terminology. cool. way to out yourself as a complete ignoramus.
Do you have first hand experience on this subject? as a Tesla owner, my experience echos his. i've had the car 3 years and only had to service it once (for the "annual" service, and new tires... that ludicrous mode, yo...)
i made an appointment, a week later i took my car in. easy as cake.
About 90,000 new "locations" for you test drive one were delivered last quarter, with an expected 300,000 more or so to come by the end of the year. As a Tesla owner myself, I can vouch for the fact that virtually any Tesla owner would be happy to talk about and show our vehicle to you. If you're even casual friends with the person, no doubt they'd let you take it for a spin as well.
if you're going to get snarky, better make sure the facts are on your side. The Apollo Astronauts way back in the 60s were traveling at about 39,000 km/h, and the New Horizons spacecraft topped 56,000 km/h.
good point... except that the oil industry receives between $10 billion and $40 billion in subsidies every year (depending on what you count as a "subsidy"), you stupid hypocritical dipshit.
Tesla and Elon have repeatedly stated that any other car company is welcome to use their supercharging network, given a) they develop their own adapter and b) they pay into the network proportionally to how much energy they use. seems like a great deal to me -- access to a huge network of chargers, and they dont have to pay for the creation of that infrastructure or its upkeep, just the power they draw from it.
the only company so far to approach them about this offer is Bollinger Motors, small NYC electric utility truck startup.
my sense is that pure egotistical refusal to acknowledge Tesla's success and significance is the primary reason none of the major manufacturers are interested in taking advantage of the only existing high-speed charging network.
... is the impotent anger of the pedantic, whiny, irrelevant failures who can't stop complaining about the fact that they learned the wrong set of tools but refuse to admit it.
in high school, in the early 1990s, i somehow got a job as telephone solicitor for the Fairfax County Police Association. it was sketchy as hell. there were no computers or automation. there were about 15 of us, including the boss. we sat in a trailer somwhere off of Popes Head Road, and were handed huge piles of paper, which were basically printouts from some kind of phone book. lists of names, phone numbers, and addresses. the bulk of our pay was earned through commission -- meaning the more money we convinced people to give, the more we made. also, we didn't take credit cards or anything like that. after getting a verbal agreement to a certain amount, we mailed them a "bill" in an envelope, and hoped like hell they paid it. we didn't get our commission until we got that envelope back in the mail and the checks cleared. only a small percentage of what people agreed to donate over the phone ever came back as commission.
it was basically a room full of high school kids desperately trying to sound like cops without actually coming out and saying they were cops at any point, and trying to make the FCPA sound like a charity without actually calling it a charity. also, some of the vets had figured out spiels that they would use on non-Fairfax residents. they'd call up some of the richer/older neighborhoods in neighboring counties of Arlington and Loudoun, and get them to donate through an exceptionally sketchy cocktail of never quite saying where exactly what county's police they were representing. the FCPA did not care where the money came from.
the best marks, by far, were easily-confused old people. some of the guys knew exactly what to say to them to make it seem like this was a regular payment they made, like they were just renewing an obligation. the amount of arm-twisting these young dudes were willing to exert on destitute and lonely old women was really sad, but that's what happens inevitably when you hire a bunch of 17 and 18 year olds, and an older authority figure acts like it's what you're supposed to do, and literally the only incentive provided is cash in direct proportion to the money you bring in.
i didn't have a very convincingly authoritative voice at 17, so i wasn't particularly good at it anyway, but the main reason i disappeared was the job was absolutely soul-crushing. i did not take the job seriously at all -- my dad made me do it. i did not blame anyone one even a little bit for not donating money -- i knew it was complete bullshit. i didn't stake my ego on my salesmanship skills -- i took pride in a lot of other skills and aspects of my personality. i didn't feel bad after any particular negative call. i certainly didn't take it personally. i knew they were rejecting giving money to a bullshit cause, not rejecting me personally. but the reality is 95% of the calls you made were negative. almost always semi-polite no's, as well. nothing too harsh. you would think it'd be easy to brush off, especially if you had a healthy sense of perspective. and each individual call was easy to brush off. but there is something cumulative there. something subconscious. when a person is told "no" thousands of times, even if each individual "no" is meaningless in the moment, it ends up snowballing into an invisible mountain of depression. i've commiserated with other former telephone solicitors who have brought up the exact same effect without prompting. i was DYING from thousands of individual rejections that i absolutely didn't even care about at all, and never took personally. but one day i got to the point where i physically could not make my body take me to that place.
the level of anxiety and fear that accompanied me driving there just became so blindly overwhelming that i'd instead drive down Braddock to the Beltway, and just do a fucking loop all the way around the thing, and tell my dad i went to work. it cost me like $20 in gas every time i did this, but the alternative felt worse than death.
so yeah, sorry, sleazy FCPA phone bank manager, for that one mediocre employee who disappeared on you. i'm sure you were worried sick about me. i'm feeling much better, for the record!
it wasn't so much about the angled floor as the idea you couldn't have one path directly above another. the Z axis was rendered graphically, but it didn't actually exist as a calculated, functional axis in the game code. like, you could see ledges and go up or down in elevation, but you'd never have, for example, a building with multiple floors stacked on top of each other.
great, now every time i get on a roller coaster, elevator, or subway train i'm just going to be wondering about whether there are online control systems for those things, and if i trust that company to properly secure it. it's a problem likely to become more widespread over time.
ok you caught me, i didn't LITERALLY drive 80mph the whole way -- there were on ramps and side streets and bouts of traffic where i we travelled more slowly. great point???
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if you REALLY believe that, and weren't just trolling with an agenda, you wouldn't have ignored the fact that NON-autopilot accidents in a Tesla are still 4 times less likely than the average car. This is likely because of its advanced warning and automatic braking features -- Autopilot technology that is always active on the car, whether the driver is using autopilot or not, or even paid for the autopilot upgrade.
but haha you and i both know you're not here to have an honest discussion.
Tesla vehicles in Q4 2018 experienced accidents at a rate of 1 accident per 2.87 million miles driven with Autopilot engaged, and one accident every 1.76 million miles without Autopilot. The average car in America experiences 1 crash every 436,000 miles (these stats do not take fault into account). Effectively, a Tesla is 4 times less likely than the average car to get into an accident, and that number jumps to 6 times less likely when using Autopilot (which is constantly improving).
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people die every day in car accidents from every manufacturer. take a look at the numbers next time before making baseless, misleading accusations.
so in other words you know literally nothing about those technologies and are just mad because you misinterpreted the terminology. cool. way to out yourself as a complete ignoramus.
anybody who uses the term "sheeple" is a fucking idiot.
Tesla has the highest customer satisfaction in the industry, you dipshit.
Do you have first hand experience on this subject? as a Tesla owner, my experience echos his. i've had the car 3 years and only had to service it once (for the "annual" service, and new tires ... that ludicrous mode, yo...)
i made an appointment, a week later i took my car in. easy as cake.
or... skip all that nonsense and just order it online like you would any other product.
About 90,000 new "locations" for you test drive one were delivered last quarter, with an expected 300,000 more or so to come by the end of the year. As a Tesla owner myself, I can vouch for the fact that virtually any Tesla owner would be happy to talk about and show our vehicle to you. If you're even casual friends with the person, no doubt they'd let you take it for a spin as well.
if you're going to get snarky, better make sure the facts are on your side. The Apollo Astronauts way back in the 60s were traveling at about 39,000 km/h, and the New Horizons spacecraft topped 56,000 km/h.
there is zero question whether it is fake or not. it is known to be fake. no need to equivocate or pretend there's any mystery.
100% agreed.
should be.
good point ... except that the oil industry receives between $10 billion and $40 billion in subsidies every year (depending on what you count as a "subsidy"), you stupid hypocritical dipshit.
the oil industry gets about $8 billion in subsidies each year, dipshit.
Tesla and Elon have repeatedly stated that any other car company is welcome to use their supercharging network, given a) they develop their own adapter and b) they pay into the network proportionally to how much energy they use. seems like a great deal to me -- access to a huge network of chargers, and they dont have to pay for the creation of that infrastructure or its upkeep, just the power they draw from it.
the only company so far to approach them about this offer is Bollinger Motors, small NYC electric utility truck startup.
my sense is that pure egotistical refusal to acknowledge Tesla's success and significance is the primary reason none of the major manufacturers are interested in taking advantage of the only existing high-speed charging network.
... is the impotent anger of the pedantic, whiny, irrelevant failures who can't stop complaining about the fact that they learned the wrong set of tools but refuse to admit it.
in high school, in the early 1990s, i somehow got a job as telephone solicitor for the Fairfax County Police Association. it was sketchy as hell. there were no computers or automation. there were about 15 of us, including the boss. we sat in a trailer somwhere off of Popes Head Road, and were handed huge piles of paper, which were basically printouts from some kind of phone book. lists of names, phone numbers, and addresses. the bulk of our pay was earned through commission -- meaning the more money we convinced people to give, the more we made. also, we didn't take credit cards or anything like that. after getting a verbal agreement to a certain amount, we mailed them a "bill" in an envelope, and hoped like hell they paid it. we didn't get our commission until we got that envelope back in the mail and the checks cleared. only a small percentage of what people agreed to donate over the phone ever came back as commission.
it was basically a room full of high school kids desperately trying to sound like cops without actually coming out and saying they were cops at any point, and trying to make the FCPA sound like a charity without actually calling it a charity. also, some of the vets had figured out spiels that they would use on non-Fairfax residents. they'd call up some of the richer/older neighborhoods in neighboring counties of Arlington and Loudoun, and get them to donate through an exceptionally sketchy cocktail of never quite saying where exactly what county's police they were representing. the FCPA did not care where the money came from.
the best marks, by far, were easily-confused old people. some of the guys knew exactly what to say to them to make it seem like this was a regular payment they made, like they were just renewing an obligation. the amount of arm-twisting these young dudes were willing to exert on destitute and lonely old women was really sad, but that's what happens inevitably when you hire a bunch of 17 and 18 year olds, and an older authority figure acts like it's what you're supposed to do, and literally the only incentive provided is cash in direct proportion to the money you bring in.
i didn't have a very convincingly authoritative voice at 17, so i wasn't particularly good at it anyway, but the main reason i disappeared was the job was absolutely soul-crushing. i did not take the job seriously at all -- my dad made me do it. i did not blame anyone one even a little bit for not donating money -- i knew it was complete bullshit. i didn't stake my ego on my salesmanship skills -- i took pride in a lot of other skills and aspects of my personality. i didn't feel bad after any particular negative call. i certainly didn't take it personally. i knew they were rejecting giving money to a bullshit cause, not rejecting me personally. but the reality is 95% of the calls you made were negative. almost always semi-polite no's, as well. nothing too harsh. you would think it'd be easy to brush off, especially if you had a healthy sense of perspective. and each individual call was easy to brush off. but there is something cumulative there. something subconscious. when a person is told "no" thousands of times, even if each individual "no" is meaningless in the moment, it ends up snowballing into an invisible mountain of depression. i've commiserated with other former telephone solicitors who have brought up the exact same effect without prompting. i was DYING from thousands of individual rejections that i absolutely didn't even care about at all, and never took personally. but one day i got to the point where i physically could not make my body take me to that place.
the level of anxiety and fear that accompanied me driving there just became so blindly overwhelming that i'd instead drive down Braddock to the Beltway, and just do a fucking loop all the way around the thing, and tell my dad i went to work. it cost me like $20 in gas every time i did this, but the alternative felt worse than death.
so yeah, sorry, sleazy FCPA phone bank manager, for that one mediocre employee who disappeared on you. i'm sure you were worried sick about me. i'm feeling much better, for the record!
it wasn't so much about the angled floor as the idea you couldn't have one path directly above another. the Z axis was rendered graphically, but it didn't actually exist as a calculated, functional axis in the game code. like, you could see ledges and go up or down in elevation, but you'd never have, for example, a building with multiple floors stacked on top of each other.
this is moronic. if Facebook is leaking private data to the client browser, this is NOT a CSS problem. what an insipid and misleading headline.
your pathetic salty jealousy is hilarious.
great, now every time i get on a roller coaster, elevator, or subway train i'm just going to be wondering about whether there are online control systems for those things, and if i trust that company to properly secure it. it's a problem likely to become more widespread over time.
(the wife ... not so much)
call me when they make a 6-series that does 0-60 in 2.4 seconds. the kids LOVE that. :)
ok you caught me, i didn't LITERALLY drive 80mph the whole way -- there were on ramps and side streets and bouts of traffic where i we travelled more slowly. great point???
haha, that's correct. my highway cruising speed was 80mph. yes, there were occasional slowdowns for traffic, on ramps, side roads, etc.