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Film Studios Send Takedown Notices About Takedown Notices

another random user sends this excerpt from the BBC: "Two film studios have asked Google to take down links to messages sent by them requesting the removal of links connected to film piracy. Google receives 20 million 'takedown' requests, officially known as DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) notices, every month. They are all published online. Recent submissions by Fox and Universal Studios include requests for the removal of previous takedown notices. ... By making the notices available, Google is unintentionally highlighting the location of allegedly pirated material, say some experts. 'It would only take one skilled coder to index the URLs from the DMCA notices in order to create one of the largest pirate search engines available,' wrote Torrent Freak editor Ernesto Van Der Sar on the site."

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  1. Sorry, the law doesn't work that way by afidel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sorry but even the government is getting their hand slapped over secret proceedings (see the recent rulings regarding national security letters), there's no way we're going to allow companies to hide their actions in a civil matter.

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    1. Re:Sorry, the law doesn't work that way by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      we? "what's this we shit, white man?"

      'we' have stopped having control over our laws decades ago.

      'they' have control and everyone knows it. you been asleep or something?

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    2. Re:Sorry, the law doesn't work that way by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 4, Interesting

      'they' have control and everyone knows it. you been asleep or something?

      It is, as one commentator has recently put it, the bitter legacy of Mickey Mouse.

  2. Not raaaaaiiiiiiiiiaaaaain on your wedding day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    By making the notices available, Google is unintentionally highlighting the location of allegedly pirated material, say some experts.

    See, Alanis, *this* is ironic.

  3. Wait a minute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was that a comment or a request for a development project?

  4. Yo, I heard you like the DMCA... by Arancaytar · · Score: 5, Funny

    (...)

  5. it is as we have feared. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    Takedown notices have become so widely applied to every aspect of internet content that they have evolved to become self aware.

    the DMCA is becoming t2@(35## NO CARRIER

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    1. Re:it is as we have feared. by JeanCroix · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wrong? Pfft. Not only is it right, but it can be an artform. Let's get the master to do it - bring in Shatner.

  6. Confidentiality not lawful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When you send a demand letter it is property of the recipient. They are free to publish it if they wish. A person receiving a DCMA take doewn notice is under no obligation, and in fact would be stupid to, agree to any confidentiality at all. The recipient is under no obligation to do so.

    A more pressing area of legal disclosure is charges against otherwise innocent until proven guilty persons. Prosecutors do perp walks, and public news conferences, all the time despite the legal, and ethical, and moral, land mines.

    JJ

  7. An Easy Problem to Fix by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Stop sending takedown notices. You're helping the so-called pirates and by the logic you've used in the past that makes you culpable for their piracy.

  8. We are going to start an endless loop.... by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now they will send to Slashdot a takedown notice to take down the message about the takedown request they sent to google to take down the list of their takedown requests....

  9. Re:Not raaaaaiiiiiiiiiaaaaain on your wedding day. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Funny

    "It's like a million Dancing With The Stars, when all you want is Doctor Who..."

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  10. Indexing the URLs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why would you need a skilled coder when the databases are in plain CSV format ?

    http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/data/

  11. Re:Unless by fredklein · · Score: 4, Informative
  12. Critically important by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    By making the notices available, Google is unintentionally highlighting the location of allegedly pirated material, say some experts. 'It would only take one skilled coder to index the URLs from the DMCA notices in order to create one of the largest pirate search engines available,' wrote Torrent Freak editor Ernesto Van Der Sar on the site."

    I stumbled on one of these notices filed by the RIAA yesterday, and it seems not only reasonable but important for the notice to be posted, including the relevant URL; otherwise, how will I know that the site hosting the illegal material is doing so illegally? I looked at the site in question, and they most certainly didn't include any notice that downloading that particular song was a violation of copyright. But because of the notice that Google linked to, I knew that I shouldn't do it.

    It seems to me that MPAA and RIAA want to have their cake and eat it, too.

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  13. This was done by accident? by Stormin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By making the notices available, Google is unintentionally highlighting the location of allegedly pirated material, say some experts.

    I thought that was kind of the whole point of the things being posted?

  14. Actually, meta-Streisand by srussia · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First there was the Streisand (unintentionally calling attention to what you don't want publicized),

    then the reverse Streisand (intentionally calling attention by demanding suppression of ostensibly unwanted but actually desired publicity),

    and now comes the meta-Streisand (unintentionally calling attention to intentional demands that caused unintentional publicity of what you didn't want publicized.)

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  15. Actually, mecha-Streisand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    And what actually is "mega-Streisand"?
    Don't you mean mecha-Streisand?

  16. Re:Barbara Streisand effect... by pclminion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A bigger pity that Google will get down on their knees and deepthroat the MPAA like a good little whore.

    Your perspective is skewed. Google isn't doing this because the *AA asks them to, they are doing it because it is the law.

    If the *AA's get out of hand, Google could easily just buy the entire industry. Every single one of those companies. With cash. Several times over. You don't seem to understand the amount of money Google has. They aren't kowtowing to private corporate interests at this point, they are simply doing what the law requires them to do. If you get a take-down notice, you have to take it down. If the *AA's begin to make the world suck too bad for Google, they could just purchase them and eradicate all of it.

  17. 'MPAATakedwn=': recursive on all control paths... by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm just curious if they'll send takedown notices on the takedown notices on the... well, you know. After all, Google may have to append the original notice on the 2nd one so everyone knows what's being referred to...

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  18. Re:Barbara Streisand effect... by Lazere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who said anything about president? And there is the real problem, the people are only looking at the president, but when it comes to the people in the house/senate, they just vote for the guy who has the right letter behind them. Remember kids, the president doesn't make the laws. Please actually pay attention to your house/senate candidates next election.