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German Court Finds Apple's 'Slide To Unlock' Patent Invalid

New submitter anderzole writes "Germany's Federal Patent Court on Thursday invalidated all of Apple's claims for its slide-to-unlock patent. They death blow for Apple's slide to unlock patent was likely a Swedish phone called the Neonode N1m that launched well before the iPhone and featured its own slide to unlock implementation. The N1m was released in 2005 while Apple's own patent for slide to unlock wasn't filed until December of 2005."

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  1. neonode info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Tj-KS2kfIr0
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonode

    1. Re:neonode info by Takatata · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Could someone please explain, why the parent is modded Offtopic? The article clearly mentions Neonode N1m as possible reason for the invalidation of this patent. The parent posted a link to a youtube presentation of the Neonode and a Wikpedia article of the neonode. Definitely not Offtopic.

    2. Re:neonode info by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Funny

      It offends the Apple faithful. It is heretical. They're going to be a little touchy until Apple invents 'widgets' in iOS 7.

  2. Now Apple should pay 1/10th of it's value by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now Apple should pay 1/10th of it's value as a penalty.
    Result: no more stupid patents filled by thieves.

    1. Re:Now Apple should pay 1/10th of it's value by ThisIsSaei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Um, that's exactly the right way.

  3. Re:Where's the code to implement it? by tepples · · Score: 5, Funny
    Is pseudocode enough?

    if no touch this frame: position = minimum
    elif touch this frame and no touch last frame and not within 24px of minimum: wait for release
    else: position = X coordinate of touch point
    if position == maximum: return "activated"

  4. What I want to know is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How did this nonsense patent even get granted in the first place? I've worked on getting patents filed, and we usually meet with all sorts of resistance even when there is actually something to the patent. Who is getting paid off to grant nonsense patents like this?

    1. Re:What I want to know is... by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Informative

      Much of the process is to make sure the paperwork is correct, not the content. If they indicate no prior art, it is not the job of the examiner to verify that claim, but to accept it and if someone else challenges it, the paperwork demonstrates the "no prior art" claim, and providing some invalidates the patent.

      They do not have sufficient resources to evaluate the content, just the format. The two are unrelated.

  5. Re:It's sad by tqk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That something like this even comes to court.

    What's sad is something like this was awarded a patent. I have two (physical) slide to unlock buttons on the base of my laptop. Why were they awarded a patent for doing the same in software?!? How much time, money, and effort has that stupid decision sucked out of the numerous justice systems where this raised its head?

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    "Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit ..." -- Pink Floyd.
  6. Apple win on 'Text Selection' by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Informative
    From Reuters:

    Samsung Electronics Co Ltd infringed a key portion of an Apple Inc patent by including a text-selection feature in its smartphones and tablets, an International Trade Commission judge said in a preliminary decision.

    South Korean-based Samsung did not infringe portions of a second Apple patent that allows a device to detect if a microphone or other device is plugged into its microphone jack, the judge said in a decision that was issued on March 26 but kept confidential until late Thursday to allow the companies to redact sensitive business information.

    The full commission must now decide if they will uphold it or overturn the judge's decision. A final decision is expected in August.

    If it is upheld, the ITC can order any infringing device to be barred from importation into the United States. Apple has alleged that Samsung's Galaxy, Transform and Nexus devices, among others, were among those made with the infringing technology. Apple had filed a complaint in mid-2011, accusing Samsung of infringing its patents in making a wide range of smartphones and tablet.

    ITC Judge Thomas Pender said in a preliminary decision in October that Samsung infringed four Apple patents but did not violate two others listed in the complaint. There had been seven listed initially, but one was dropped during litigation. The full commission then said it wanted the agency's judge to take a second look at portions of two patents where he had found that Samsung infringed. That remanded decision, issued in late March, was unsealed on Thursday.

    Samsung is the world's largest smartphone maker, while Apple is in second place, according to Gartner Inc, a technology research firm. Apple is waging war on several fronts against Google Inc, whose Android software powers many Samsung devices. The legal battles between Apple and Samsung have taken place in some 10 countries as they vie for market share in the booming mobile industry.

    Google's Android software, which Apple's late founder Steve Jobs denounced as a "stolen product," has become the world's No. 1 smartphone operating system. Apple's battle against Google's Android software has dragged in hardware vendors that use it, including Samsung and HTC. Samsung is also a parts supplier to Apple, producing micro processors, flat screens and memory chips for the iPhone, iPad and iPod. Apple has reduced orders from Samsung for chips and screens. The case at the International Trade Commission is No. 337-796

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/05/us-apple-samsung-patent-idUSBRE9340NI20130405

    http://thedroidguy.com/2013/04/the-never-ending-samsung-vs-apple-infringement-case/

  7. Re:It's sad by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My great grandmother had slide-to-unlock locks on her luggage. I have a 100+ year old prior art for "slide to unlock." And I doubt that was the first. Deadbolts in castles from 1000+ years ago likely employed the same mechanism.

  8. Re: It's sad by Takatata · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Problem is if apple didnt patent it someone else would have filed a patent years later and sued apple

    Yes.

    It's a no win for apple, patent and they're the bad guy, don't patent and they get sued

    No. Patents are not like trademarks. If you don't defend them you don't lose them. Maybe Apple is forced to patent silly stuff. Nobody would complain if this was all they do. But nobody forces Apple to be an ******* and actually use the silly patents to sue other companies. This makes them the bad guys.

  9. Re: Apple is just another Electronics Company by SternisheFan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apple phones are already almost water proof. There are videos of people putting them in tanks of water and they remain on the entire time. Google it.

    For about $80 you can have any phone get a 'completely waterproof' coating applied to it, warrantied for 2 years, not just water-resistant.

    I'm not an Apple hater, I've always thought they are amazing devices, but they just aren't the cutting edge leader in phone tech they once were. Attempting to keep their lead, Apple has been trying to kill the encroaching competition through frivolous patent lawsuits, and not doing too well at it. They should have innovated new killer tech instead of just treading water.

    The iPhone popularized touchpad input, and that gave them the needed edge to become the leader in smartphones, they were the coolest phone then. That was a decade ago, and Apple just doesn't have that exclusiveness anymore. Android devices have caught up and in many ways surpassed iPhones. Apple continues on now based solely on customer loyalty.

    Over a year ago I opted for the Android system due to its being less costly up front. Having been immersed in smartphone culture since, I've realized that smartphones are portable computers with internet/ bluetooth connectivity, that also have phone 'apps'. And an iPhone is basically an app player, with an alternate OS. They haven't come out with anything new that sets it apart from the competition. Unless the next iPhone has something the others don't, then Apple's had it's time in the sun.