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Why French Govt's Attempt to Censor Wikipedia Matters

In the end, the Streisand Effect prevailed, as you might expect, when a French domestic intelligence agency apparently browbeat a French citizen into removing content from Wikipedia. The attention caused the Wikipedia entry on a formerly obscure military radio site (English version) to leap in popularity not only in French, but in languages where it was formerly far less likely to have been noticed at all. Lauren Weinstein makes the case, though, that this sort of move isn't just something to shrug at or assume will always end so nicely. "Even though attempts at Internet censorship will almost all fail in the end, governments and authorities have the capability to make groups' and individuals' lives extremely uncomfortable, painful, or even terminated — in the process of attempts at censorship, and equally important, by instilling fear to encourage self-censorship in the first place."

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  1. intimidation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Even though attempts at Internet censorship will almost all fail in the end, governments and authorities have the capability to make groups' and individuals' lives extremely uncomfortable, painful, or even terminated — in the process of attempts at censorship, and equally important, by instilling fear to encourage self-censorship in the first place."

    Wikileaks comes to my mind

  2. Re: Response by feathersmg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wikipedia is almost nothing without contributors, and french government can put a heavy presure on french contributors. What wil be the result if each government acts the same way ?

  3. Who is Laura Weinstein by Little_Professor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It would be nice if TFS included an explanation of who Laura Weinstein actually is, and why anyone should be interested in the views she writes on her amaterish-looking personal blog.

  4. Re: Response by Stolpskott · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wikipedia is almost nothing without contributors, and french government can put a heavy presure on french contributors.
    What wil be the result if each government acts the same way ?

    This is the core problem in this case. If the French government, or in deed any government outside the US, wanted to go after Wikipedia, they would find that for all the Wikimedia Foundation is not a money making machine, there are plenty of legally trained people willing to leap to its defence. Plus it would be a great bit of American flag-waving, with the forces of Goodness, Truth and The American Way protecting US Citizens from the corrupt/socialist/communist/feminist/European/Chinese/Arab/terrorist/non-Hollywood/pirate/non-Christian (delete as appropriate) evils.
    If the US government wants to shut it down, one call from any number of unaccountable officials in shadowy agencies could pretty much bury the whole thing.

    On the other hand, if a government wants to go after the contributors, they are much less likely to have any legal training, backup or knowledge of how the law works, and a couple of big guys with official-looking badges suddenly become very effective at getting the contributor censored.

  5. Re: Response by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What wil be the result if each government acts the same way ?

    You can't talk like that. We need to give a gang of people the power to steal, kidnap, and murder or else we'd have gangs of people stealing, kidnapping, and murdering.

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  6. Re:People really Boggle my mind by cffrost · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are defending the LIFEWORK of a PORN dealer

    I. What the fuck are you talking about?

    II. What's the problem with porn dealers or their lifework?

    III. Presupposing your argument has any merit*:

    "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one’s time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all." — H. L. Mencken

    * I don't believe your argument has merit, but I do believe that Mencken's quote is applicable to the general viewpoint you've expressed.

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