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"The Kissinger Cables": WikiLeaks Releases 1.7M Historical Records
An anonymous reader writes to note the latest large-scale document release from WikiLeaks: "The cables are all from the time period of 1973 to 1976. Without droning about too many numbers that can be found in the press release, about 200,000 of the cables relate directly to former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. These cables include significant revelations about U.S. involvements with fascist dictatorships, particularly in Latin America, under Franco's Spain (including about the Spanish royal family) and in Greece under the regime of the Colonels. The documents also contain hourly diplomatic reporting on the 1973 war between Israel, Egypt and Syria (the 'Yom Kippur war'). While several of these documents have been used by U.S. academic researchers in the past, the Kissinger Cables provides unparalleled access to journalists and the general public. 'The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer.' — Henry A. Kissinger, U.S. Secretary of State, March 10, 1975."
My initial reaction was to think, "at least he admits it, privately."
After I thought about it for a half a minute, this quotation made my day. I realized that the people of the United States had passed a law that put a man like that in fear. Add one point in the "democracy" column!
[Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
If the US did play entirely by the rules, the USSR would win the Cold War. The USSR was a fascist country, although the red sort of fascism, and observed no rules in its quest for dominance over Eurasia. I am glad the West's only country capable of standing against the USSR had politicians like Dr Kissinger that were focused on winning.
Usually called a Constitutional Republic.
Real democracy will eat you, like when 51 percent vote it's okay to kill you an eat you.
Instead we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights.
The existence of the agency called DHS is in 100% opposition to the US Constitution. It' must be de-activated, disarmed (with a BRAC like program) and the security clearance of all those people revoked for their treasonous bullshit.
All of the problems today are because of oath breakers. Senators don't regulate the monetary system. Every one of them ought be arrested for that. Or lose their power.
Don't like that example? It really is EVERY PROBLEM, is exactly the way they fucking want it.
How about the 49 oath breakers that tried to sign the UN Small Arms treaty and override our fucking constitution and GOD GIVEN RIGHTS to bear arms..
Every fucking day they're coming out with new fucking laws and rules and ordinances, and treaties, and shit.
Every one of those "spread democracy" fuckers is an oath breakin piece of shit, usually breaking the logan act and affiliating with foreign agenda like agenda 21 from the UN, Carbon Tax UNEP/IPCC, CFR (high level oath breaking), AIPAC (Jewish oath breaking), PNAC (conservative oath breaking)
You can't trust the FBI or DOJ cause where are all the fucking banksters? Free, and doing it again.
I conclude the RULE OF LAW has been destroyed
but you go ahead and say no, and then don't fucking cry when they STEAL Your COCK SUCKING RETIREMENT .
Go look at the oath breakers on HR 390
IT'S TOO LATE TO WAKE UP NOW, can you say capitol controls, new world order, fema regions
Obama should not be impeached, he ought be arrested for treason, spending the rest of his fucking life in ft. leavenworth.
These fuckers are the ones who spread death squads and war, funded by banksters.
IT'S TOO LATE TO WAKE UP NOW
NEW GLOBAL ORDER the fuckers are saying it in the OPEN now on CSPAN-2. BIDEN breaking his oath RIGHT FUCKING NOW live on CSPAN-2
Well, I believe Machiavelli wrote a separate book on republics, which I haven't read, but the closest relevant chapter in _the Prince_ is probablyChapter IX, where he says:
I'm aware that Machiavelli's name is a synonym for ruthlessness, but if you actually read what he wrote, there's a lot more to it than that. He wrote a lot about the importance of gaining and keeping the people's support. So, I do not think Kissinger by and large took the right lessons from Machiavelli. Now, Lyndon Johnson, *there's* a true student of Machiavelli!
[Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
'Fascist Dictatorship' is verging on hate speech.
Dictatorship of the Proletariat should be no more loved a term than "Fascist Dictatorship," but for some reason it gets a pass. That should be the last thing that happens, given the record - 100,000,000 killed in the last 100 years. (And don't look now - North Korea might just be warming up.)
The 1970s, when many of the communications were written, were probably both the high point of Communist and Soviet Power and the struggle between Communism and freedom. It is unlikely that Communism would have collapsed as soon as it did in Eastern Europe, and most of the world, if freedom hadn't endured in the West to give aid and hope to the oppressed, and some remember that.
So, when will Wikileaks start releasing Soviet and Communist archive material? Thats right, Assange probably doesn't consider them "bastards" to be crushed. Well, he going to Ecuador if he can, isn't he?:
The following human rights problems continued: isolated unlawful killings and use of excessive force by security forces, sometimes with impunity; poor prison conditions; arbitrary arrest and detention; corruption and other abuses by security forces; a high number of pretrial detainees; and corruption and denial of due process within the judicial system. President Correa and his administration continued verbal and legal attacks against the independent media. Societal problems continued, including physical aggression against journalists; violence against women; discrimination against women, indigenous persons, Afro-Ecuadorians, and lesbians and gay men; trafficking in persons and sexual exploitation of minors; and child labor.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Murdering democratically elected governments and replacing them with genocidal dictatorships that cused hundreds of thousands of victims doesn't sound like freedom to me, you psychopathic hypocritical bastards. And you'll still be surprised that the civilized world hates you. Fucking sociopathic criminals.
What Machiavelli talked about was how to achieve and hold power. That requires the people's support. But a Machiavellian, like any true politician, does it for his own sake, not for theirs -- and Machiavelli thus talked about how to reconcile this fundamental selfishness with the need to keep the people's support.
The problem comes when there is a distinction between enacting policies that benefit the people, and feigning to so just in order to get their support while actually not having their best interests at heart. This is why transparency in governance is the ultimate enemy of politicians and yet the only thing that gives government a shade's chance of actually serving the public.
The 1970s, when many of the communications were written, were probably both the high point of Communist and Soviet Power and the struggle between Communism and freedom.
Is a struggle between Communism and freedom really what was going on back then?
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Please forgive me if I'm harder on my own country than others. It is because it is my country, the one I have the most stake in and the most control over (Ha!). It's the same reason I'm more concerned with my own kid's behavior than that of other children.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
What amuses me is that most people like to pretend that this type of stuff doesn't continue into the present day.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
It was a struggle between which type of control of the population would win. The Communist methods are obviously reprehensible, caused millions of deaths and ultimately failed. The western methods of exerting control over the general public are much less odious, but just as effective in the end. Either way, the people at the top own us, and we do what they want us to do.
I have some hope though, when I see information like this released to the general public. It's a great thing to see the workings behind the scenes so we can get a better understanding of what was actually going on.
"The first time I got drunk, I got married. The second time I bought a chimpanzee, after that I stayed sober" Arian Seid
Sure, it's freedom, as explained by Richard M Nixon's head:
"We enjoy so much freedom, it's almost sickening. We're free to chose which hand our sex-monitoring chip is implanted in. And if we don't want to pay our taxes, why, we're free to spend a week with the Pain Monster."
I am officially gone from
"So, when will Wikileaks start releasing Soviet and Communist archive material? Thats right, Assange probably doesn't consider them "bastards" to be crushed. Well, he going to Ecuador if he can, isn't he?"
Assange is retreating to Ecuador because many of those "free Western" democracies you seem so fond of have given him little choice.
Continually annoys me when these idiots scream "Well Stalin killed millions!" I don't give a shit, I didn't pay taxes in the Soviet Union that supported a war machine that assisted in the massacre of a huge percentage of the Central American civilian population. My tax dollars didn't ship weapons to Cuba, but they did pay for free weapons for apartheid South Africa. My government didn't approve sending warplanes to the North Vietnamese government, but it did give direct and explicit approval to carrying out genocide in East Timor. Yep, Mao wasn't a nice guy, but the citizens of my country didn't elect Mao to represent me. They elected Reagan and a pair of Bushes, who were every bit as bad without the excuse of Mao's morphine addiction.
"Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin