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Google Fiber's Austin, Texas Rollout Confirmed

skade88 writes "As earlier rumors suggested, Google Fiber will indeed roll out in Austin, Texas, with the first homes receiving service in mid-2014. The delay is due to the need for a whole new fiber network to be deployed for the service. It will only be deployed within the Austin City limits. Google says in early 2014 they will allow people in Austin register their address for service. They plan to deploy to the neighborhoods with the most interest."

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  1. Why not Houston? by fewnorms · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Still think this should've gone to Houston. Search google, there's a TON of dark fiber already in the Houston area. With a bit of help, that could've been a great infrastructure right there. Oh well, guess since Austin is the hip place to be in Texas, we just get bypassed :)

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    1. Re:Why not Houston? by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just throwing this out there: perhaps google figured that Houston public officials were already bought and paid for by one or two telecoms, and would be determined to make this second test a failure. Houston isn't exactly known for having honest public officials acting in the interests of the public. I remember hearing that public transit or even biking was near impossible in houston due likely to gas and car companies' influence.

      I feel your pain, living in Chicago. Google fiber is never coming here. Even AT&T can't buy decent 4G speeds here.

    2. Re:Why not Houston? by Wheelie_boy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because Austin, like KC, owns its own electric utility. That makes it way easier to string fiber along the power right of ways. Plus, yeah, Austin is cool.

    3. Re:Why not Houston? by saveferrousoxide · · Score: 4, Insightful

      627 sq miles vs 271 sq miles. Toss in the UT campus (50k+ students crammed into per capita income, AMD, Motorola, and Samsung, and I think the choice actually becomes pretty clear. Houston has small areas where the money is consolidated, oil firms, Rice, and...NASA's kinda close-ish?

    4. Re:Why not Houston? by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      . I remember hearing that public transit or even biking was near impossible in houston due likely to gas and car companies' influence.

      Nah, that's just a guess because in Texas, I'd often see choices where they spent *more* money to make it bike unfriendly. My car broke down when I was driving myself to school in Dallas (there was no bus option from near me), and I had to take a bus once. 15 minute drive, 2 hour bus, one transfer. When I entered the working world, I always checked bus schedules. One was a 10 minute drive (under 5 in no traffic), and 4 hours by bus, 2 transfers. It would have been faster to walk to work than take the bus. My experience is that's not unusual. The system wasn't designed to get people "around" but to get them from he 'burbs to downtown, even though those who live in the burbs generally don't work in downtown, and the few that do wouldn't take public transport. And before anyone asks, I lived a short walk from a major intersection.

      The only way to make a system worse would be deliberate sabotage. And from things like that, rumors get started.

    5. Re:Why not Houston? by Dripdry · · Score: 2

      4.39 Mbps?
      Yessiree, the time AT&T spent ten years giving people speeds just barely fast enough that they wouldn't tear the cable out of the wall then tear the executives in two for charging $75/mo, oh those were the good years. Golden years! Wish we had'em back yessirree.

      We had about 7-9Mbps up in Andersonville when I was living there last year and it was adequate, but could have been better. The upstream was awful, though.

      It is 2013, we should demand better for all the money we pay to these yahoos.

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    6. Re:Why not Houston? by bradrum · · Score: 3, Insightful

      1. Owning their own electric utility.
      2. I am guessing there is already a pretty good amount of fiber in the city already....
      3. High levels of actual city official interest. Meaning they are will to actually make the difficult choices happen to make this happen.
      4. High visibility when South by Southwest rolls through every year.
      5. Tons of apartments and properties that will go out of their way to install this stuff to lure the kids in. I used to live in apartment in Austin that was one of the first in the nation to install high speed wireless internet. This is a huge renters market.
      6. Its a much smaller town than the gigantic blob cities like Dallas or Houston.

    7. Re:Why not Houston? by IANAAC · · Score: 2

      Yes, I'm counting the metro area. Which is covered by several well-networked public transit systems. Coverage is doable, if the priorities are there. Houston's priorities aren't in public transit. That was my point.

    8. Re:Why not Houston? by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

      7. Austin is a Liberal Oasis in the otherwise Conservative state.
      8. It's a hip college town, and the Capital of Texas.
      9. Quake Con and other Gaming Cons.
      10. Austin is the Silicon Valley of the South.
      11. Crytek, ID, and slew of other technology & game companies call Austin Home.
      12. The plan fits right in with: "Keep Austin Weird"

      I live in H-town and was thinking of Austin as a future home for my indie game company just to be nearer to all the amazing talent and tech (esp. game) companies there. Google Fiber access would be delicious icing on an already very tasty cake.

  2. a national roll out is only 100 years away by alen · · Score: 2

    at the rate they are going

    1. Re:a national roll out is only 100 years away by symbolset · · Score: 4, Informative

      In the very announcement they link to the FCC broadband page about how to build out your own community gigabit municipal fiber network. You don't have to wait for Google. They would rather you didn't.

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  3. I like the speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but I don't like:

    - Google already has access to galaxies worth of data from ads, web beacons, etc.
    - Now they will have all that, plus your DNS queries
    - They will have your actual name, address, phone number, etc.
    - Will they allow you to switch DNS providers?
    - Will they allow backdoor boxes in their data centers?
    - To whom are they accountable?

    Questions, questions...

  4. SXSW by Scot+Seese · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of all the possible candidates in the U.S., Google chooses to roll Google Fiber out to the city that hosts South By Southwest every year, where countless thousands of media, music & technology movers, shakers and influencers congregate along with the journalists covering them.

    Google will recoup the est. $50m rollout costs for Austin in just 1-2 festivals from word of mouth and countless thousands of mentions by journalists in national & international articles. Fifty million, you say? They'll get $200m worth of free advertising back in 2 years, when the "OMFG it's SO FAST" comments start bleeding into every story you see out of South by.

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    1. Re:SXSW by admdrew · · Score: 2

      In addition to the 'good karma' they'll get at SXSW, Austin is home to a large number of high-tech companies.

  5. Re:so likey no CSN houston even when auston is in by alen · · Score: 2

    austin is a hipster town where SXSW takes place every year

    Houston has 2 sports teams that i know of

    google's fiber channel list has no HBO and no expensive sports packages. I bet houston has a lot more sports fans than austin.
    no HBO option
    and the spanish language stations seem to be missing a few big names

  6. Re:is it worth it? by XanC · · Score: 2

    You can actually back up all your stuff to another machine across the Internet in a reasonable amount of time.

  7. Re:Meaning by Hunter+Shoptaw · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's a BS post. I'm in the heart of the KC roll out and Google has lowered the bar at least once on neighborhoods getting in. They base interest by the percentage of the population of the fiberhood that enrolls for the $10 deposit. This is true "vote with your dollar" work here. It's really about how much the community is willing to go out and spread the word and get their neighbors on board.

  8. Re:is it worth it? by jdogalt · · Score: 2

    Telecommuting, it can save more gas than any hybrid pretty much if you work in an office you can telecommute. Huge quality of life benefits from this when combined with flexible hours etc. The huge this is google is the only major thing since modems and ISDN that's symmetric it's a gig down and a gig up.

    Public Service Announcement: Google Fiber requires you contact them for 'details' if you intend to use the service for a business. I believe this is in violation of FCC-10-201 'Network Neutrality' transparency. Of course I'm more concerned with their terms of service prohibitting hosting any server of any kind, as I consider that a violation of the blocking prong of the Network Neutrality rules (though the case of the residential client blocked from the remote server is the more common understanding of the blocking rule). In any event, for 7 and a half months now, I have had an outstanding NN(form 2000F) complaint with the FCC (ref#12-C000422224). It is currently in "enforcement review" after having been bounced once to the Kansas Attorney General who was not interested in pursuing the matter, though referred me back to the FCC for help. I think it is important to realize how google is participating in a widespread practice of disempowering residential internet users from the ability to provide traditionally unforseen and innovative services to the rest of the internet, in order to protect the established players (cough *them* cough) existing moneymaking servers from new competition, enabled by such advancements as the IPv6 solution to the scarce IP address problem. In fact, if you follow enough of my information warfare links here, you'll find that Google's CEO even agrees with me fairly strongly, but is apparently content to let the lawyers dictate the shape of Google's Gigabit residential internet of the near future. So be it.

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3503531&cid=43033891

  9. AT&T announces gigabit network in Austin by paulbsch · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just after Google's announcement, AT&T made an announcement that it will bring a gigabit network to ATX: https://www.google.com/search?q=at%26t+gigabit+austin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a

    1. Re:AT&T announces gigabit network in Austin by symbolset · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Obviously they would like to drive Google's adoption rate down and costs up so as to put a stop to this gigabit nonsense before it goes national. Cut off the air supply even if they have to engage in dumping, but only in areas Google is targeting, not TWC areas they have agreed to stay out of. Not going to work. They are still ATT.

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