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Ask Slashdot: What Should Happen To Your Data After You Die?

Nerval's Lobster writes "Death is Nature's way of telling you it's time to get off the Internet. But when you finally shuffle off this mortal coil, you leave something behind: all your email and other digital assets. That's a huge problem not only for the deceased — once you're on the wrong side of the Great Beyond, there's no way to delete those incriminating messages — but also any relatives who might want to access your (former) life. And it's a problem Google's seeking to solve with the new Inactive Account Manager. (In an April 11 blog posting, Google product manager Andreas Tuerk suggested that Inactive Account Manager wasn't a 'great name' for the product, but maybe the company shouldn't be so hard on itself: it's a way better name than, say, Google Death Dashboard.) Inactive Account Manager will delete your Google-related data (Gmail, etc.) after a set amount of time, or else send that data to 'trusted contacts' you set up before your untimely demise. Which raises an interesting, semi-Google-related question: What do you want to have happen to your data after you die? Give it to loved ones, or have an automated system nuke it all? Should more companies that host email and data offer plans like Inactive Account Manager?"

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  1. Where's the... by MasseKid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't care, I'm self centered and dead option?

    1. Re:Where's the... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      After I am dead this meta-data is of no use for me... My heirs can figure it out...

      Why not do what millions of others have done? Nothing.

    2. Re:Where's the... by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      I don't care, I'm self centered and dead option?

      When you are gone you cease to be self-centered, you are dead-centered. A target! Ripe for bruteforced attacks on your history! Just a matter of time before some character in North Korea and completely re-done your entire browsing and interweb content history as a life-long supporter of Dear Leader Fatty-fattington.

      Best buy some After-life Insurance or something.

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    3. Re:Where's the... by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      Just leave a trail of baffling BS. It's the least you can do for your legacy. Maybe you'll end up with a cult following, like L. Ron.

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    4. Re:Where's the... by Seumas · · Score: 2

      What the fuck do you think I've been doing for the last 15 years on Slashdot?! :D

    5. Re:Where's the... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      I call bullshit. Now you have to opt-out of Google's spying every time your account is deleted.

      How many times are you planning to die, Mr. Bond?

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    6. Re:Where's the... by houghi · · Score: 2

      I also do not care. I also have no will. I want everybody to genuinely be grieving.

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    7. Re:Where's the... by Synerg1y · · Score: 2

      I believe it's standard policy for IT to re-visit then re-invent the wheel every so often. At that point, what's been done historically regardless of how successful or unsuccessful it is doesn't matter. And learning from competitors is way below google's pay grade!

  2. Nuke it all by alen · · Score: 2

    It will be like you never existed

    1. Re:Nuke it all by stewsters · · Score: 2

      From orbit. Its the only way to be sure.

    2. Re:Nuke it all by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

      It will be like you never existed

      Is it possible to be low-level formatted after you are gone?

      "How'd he die?" "Head crashed." "Oh, ow."

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    3. Re:Nuke it all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is it possible to be low-level formatted after you are gone?

      Yes. It's called composting.

    4. Re:Nuke it all by korgitser · · Score: 2

      obligatory xkcd: http://xkcd.com/686/

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  3. Hilarious scenarios for Friday by Synerg1y · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. Husband dies, google releases data, wife finds out husband spent all excess cash on cam whores.
    2. Google deletes husband's data, treasure map / account numbers are lost.
    3. Husband makes another unrelated gmail account, a set time later, wife is notified husband is dead while eating dinner with him.

    Google just can't win here can they? :)

    1. Re:Hilarious scenarios for Friday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      4. Kid gets grounded from the computer, mom receives all his porn.

  4. Nerval's lobster by oldhack · · Score: 2

    Is he a slashdot staffer?

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  5. Doesn't matter by linear+a · · Score: 5, Funny

    Taking everybody with me.

  6. Depends on the Data by ilikenwf · · Score: 2

    My git repos, some of which just mirror other projects, others which are private to me, would be opened up to the public, except for code that isn't mine to relicense as GPL. Other data released publically via webservers would include archival data of various rare tv, books, etc that I have collected.

    Emails, banking stuff, and all that would go to the appropriate family members.

    1. Re:Depends on the Data by kermidge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's the way, I think, except for those who flat out don't care. I've given a few people, the same that I've named and filed with my advanced directive, an envelope with master password to 'The Vault' so that they can unload what they please and close the accounts. Still have to write a will and have it notarized.

      It's not so much that I care a lot about digital stuff vanishing into mass storage somewhere but I don't want to leave the people I care about with possibly vexing dangling digital details.

      Computer goes to a friend anyway, so no worries about anything embarrassing on the drives; my home folder will be available to family and friends - family pics, favorite comics, possibly useful links and documents and some stray writing. They don't want it, erase it.

      I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable with Google's approach to a dead man switch, but it's a helluva good start; it's a nice thing to do and it could help keep things smooth for them as well.

      But I'd suggest doing the bulk of arrangements in meat space. Do it now: we don't know our time, so it doesn't hurt to not leave as much of a mess behind as doing nothing. Folks above are right, tho - when I'm gone I'm likely not going to care anymore. Dead is probably just that. If there is anything after, whatever one's beliefs, you won't find out until it happens.

  7. Buried with it by MrYingster · · Score: 2

    Assuming I don't die an untimely, unforeseen death, I had always planned on consolidating my data, and preparing it to be buried with me. I don't want to burden my family with having to sort through things. Plus in the future, in the case that reanimation is made possible I can have my stuff again, or in the more likely event that future paleontologists dig me up, they will have lots of history/information to figure out what made us primitive humans tick.

  8. Your spouse by hey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or its a sneaky way of Google finding the email address of the person your trust the most?
    Probably your spouse.

  9. Rickroll by phorm · · Score: 2

    If I'm old and wrinkly but don't lose my (admittedly odd) sense of humor, I'd be tempted to rick-roll my family.

    As a final farewall, he's a few pictures of my wrinkly butt. The code to the account with your inheritance is hidden somewhere in there...

  10. It is common knowledge by goffster · · Score: 2

    St Peter asks your for all social media passwords.
    I, for one, would want to make sure those accounts no longer exist.

  11. Apropos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have stave IV lung cancer, and maybe a few weeks left to go. Since I was an only child, both of my parents are gone, and I never married or had children, I basically have nobody who would want to have my data.

    So, I am basically just erasing myself from existence. There is very little on the Internet with my name on it to begin with - no facebook, LinkedIn, or any other social media like that. I do have a few hundred family photos from when I was much young that I scanned in. When I am close, I will say my goodbyes to my parents (again) and delete those, too.

    Death is a profound experience. When you realize yours is coming and there isn't anything that can be done about it, you begin to want to disconnect from the hive and spend your last days alone to ponder your life and existence. It's not something I expected - when I was first diagnosed I thought I would want to party as much as possible until I passed - spend as much time with friends as I could. But, that turned out not to be the case.

    I'm really too weak at this point to do much of anything except sit around and talk or surf, but when I left my job and cashed out my life insurance, I did spend some time volunteering and giving money away. I didn't feel any need to take pictures, or develop memories. It felt much more like a final responsibility to dispose of my wealth and give it to people who could do something good with it.

    Now I really only get online to talk about my imminent death and try to pass on what little knowledge I have about the subject when the topic comes up. The truth is, death makes you grow old. I'm 40 and feel like I have lived 90 years.

    Anyway, your data may mean something to someone - why wait until you die to pass it on? Give it to people now - especially those good thoughts that you think might make them happy. There's no reason for you to make someone think "why couldn't he have said this to me while he was alive??" That's just cruel.

    Life is short. Shorter than you think.

    1. Re:Apropos by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 2

      All great points. You may also have distant relatives or old friends who may still be interested in your life either now or later. At the very least, historians may be interested in your life, including in your local historical society. See for example:
      "Why do historians value letters and diaries"
      http://historymatters.gmu.edu/mse/letters/whydo.html
      "Thus, the historical value of reading diaries and letters involves understanding the significance of how individual writers employed, experimented with, or altered the conventional forms alive in their time. Perhaps more than any other kind of historical text, the personal writing we are considering reveals how people both embraced and resisted the time and place in which they lived. Their personal motives for employing either form -- the emotional and intellectual energy infusing the form with life each time it is written with a new subjectivity -- suggest much about how people in the past made their cultures, but made them from the materials at hand."

      In any case, whether pictures or writings remain, you've made ripples in the world in all the lives you've interacted with. What is the universe quantum physicists describe but the sum total of all those sorts of waves?

      Probably too late, but might give you a bit more time to make a few more ripples:
      http://sciencenordic.com/cancer-patients-high-vitamin-d-levels-live-longer
      "For example lung cancer patients, the median survival rate after the cancer diagnosis was 5.3 months for patients with low vitamin D levels, whereas it was 22.6 months for patients with high levels."

      More about other cancer options in this thread:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3610805&cid=43358733

      You might find parts of this book by Thomas Moore "Dark Nights of the Soul: A Guide to Finding Your Way Through Life's Ideals" of interest, or at least, just the summary:
      http://books.google.com/books?id=RKZreNYKNHQC
      "Our lives are filled with emotional tunnels: the loss of a loved one or end of a relationship, aging and illness, career disappointments or just an ongoing sense of dissatisfaction with life. Society tends to view these "dark nights" in clinical terms as obstacles to be overcome as quickly as possible. But Moore shows how honoring these periods of fragility as periods of incubation and positive opportunities to delve the soul's deepest needs can provide healing and a new understanding of life's meaning. Dark Nights of the Soul presents these metaphoric dark nights not as the enemy, but as times of transition, occasions to restore yourself, and transforming rites of passage, revealing an uplifting and inspiring new outlook on such topics as:
      * The healing power of melancholy
      * The sexual dark night and the mysteries of matrimony
      * Finding solace during illness and in aging
      * Anxiety, anger, and temporary Insanities
      * Linking creativity, spirituality, and emotional struggles
      * Finding meaning and beauty in the darkness"

      Although it sounds like you have already found a way to honor and respect the dark night you are facing. So, I link to that more by way of honoring what you say.

      A key point he makes is that in mainstream Western culture, we usually see "growth" as about like a caterpillar getting bigger, but ignore growth as "transformation", like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly. "Groundhog Day" is a favorite funny movie that connects with that.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day_(film)

      I wrote about my mother's last days here:
      http://www.pdfernhout.net/reading-between-the-lines.html
      " I'm glad I had the "free" time

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