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Man Who Tangled With The Oatmeal Ordered To Pay $46k

Posted by Soulskill on from the what-have-we-learned dept.

Last summer we followed the odd case of lawyer Charles Carreon, as he went after Matthew Inman, creator of The Oatmeal webcomic, with legal threats. Carreon had been hired by FunnyJunk, a website Inman accused of stealing his comics. Carreon demanded $20,000 in compensation for Inman's "false accusations." Inman declined, and then used the publicity to solicit over $200,000 in donations, which he gave to charity after sending Carreon photographs. Carreon dropped the suit against Inman, but the saga continued. A satirical website was set up about Carreon, which caused him to invoke the legal system again. The article documents the absurdities, which included further legal action and a song. Now, however, Carreon is reaping what he has sown; a judge has ordered him to pay over $46,000 for his role in the legal circus.

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  1. Now we can call it... by DWMorse · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now we can call it a "Justice System" again.

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    There's a spot in User Info for World of Warcraft account names? Really?
    1. Re:Now we can call it... by femtobyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Only once it demonstrates the ability to carry out justice systematically, rather than just isolated accidents of sensibility.

    2. Re:Now we can call it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only once it demonstrates the ability to carry out justice systematically, rather than just isolated accidents of sensibility.

      Oh sure, and while you're at it let's ask for a pony and cold fusion.

    3. Re:Now we can call it... by jfengel · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It actually specifically disclaims any interest in dispensing justice. Ask any lawyer or judge: they'll make clear that their goal is to ensure compliance with the law, and that there is little to no room for being "just".

      The Supreme Court "Justices", in particular, like to imagine themselves as "calling balls and strikes", regardless of whether the resulting judgment matches anybody's notion of justice.

      There is one dimension of justice in everybody following the same law, but only one of many. And given that the law is frequently vague or contradictory, such that even the judges disagree on the "balls and strikes" they're supposedly calling, it seems to me that in many cases it's the least just of those dimensions.

      I would propose that the next time a "Justice" declares himself to be "calling balls and strikes", that we rename his title to "Umpire", as "justice" is orthogonal to his self-defined description.

    4. Re:Now we can call it... by Spent2HrOnAName · · Score: 5, Insightful
      This is an incredibly shortsighted view, and I find it alarming that it has been modded up.

      there is little to no room for being "just" ... The Supreme Court "Justices", in particular, like to imagine themselves as "calling balls and strikes", regardless of whether the resulting judgment matches anybody's notion of justice.

      The reason they have to do follow the law without imposing their arbitrary whims on the people that come before them, is that the law is BY DESIGN written by people who have to stand for reelection after they pass the laws (yes, there's the issue of whether our representatives actually represent us, and whether outside factors such as big money unduly influence elections, but it's not particularly relevant to the principle that's being questioned here).

      There is one dimension of justice in everybody following the same law, but only one of many.

      The idea of laws applying equally to everyone is a HUGE DEAL. It's the practical application of the whole "all men are created equal" thing.

      Judges following their own notion of "just," and disregarding the law in cases where they felt it was unjust, would cause a lot of decisions that you would certainly find horrendous. As it is, judges face very little accountability. The supreme court justices are appointed "in good behavior," which is usually interpreted as "lifetime appointment, with the option to impeach them if they start acting completely horrible." So there's a very good reason why their job descriptions leave very little wiggle room to do whatever they feel like. Yes, the supreme court frequently makes decisions that I find appalling, but at least they have to back it up based on law and precedent. In the system you're yearning for, they wouldn't even have to do that, if they felt that "justice" (whatever they felt like that meant that day) demanded it.

      I would propose that the next time a "Justice" declares himself to be "calling balls and strikes", that we rename his title to "Umpire", as "justice" is orthogonal to his self-defined description.

      Call them "Umpire" if you want, but under your proposed system, we'd have another title for them - monarch.
      I can't believe I have to spell this out, since it's high-school-civics-level stuff

  2. Re:Better than... by ArmchairGeneral · · Score: 5, Funny

    Still a better love story than Twilight