Boston Officials Did Not Shut Down Cell Network After Marathon Bombing
An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from Motherboard about the immediate aftermath of yesterday's bomb attack in Boston, which attempts to explain the (unsurprisingly) poor accessibility of the cellular network after the blasts: "Gut instinct suggests that the network must've been overloaded with people trying to find loved ones. At first, the Associated Press said it was a concerted effort to prevent any remote detonators from being used, citing a law enforcement official. After some disputed that report, the AP reversed its report, citing officials from Verizon and Sprint who said they'd never had a request to shut down the network, and who blamed slowdowns on heavy load. (Motherboard's Derek Mead was able to send text messages to both his sister and her boyfriend, who were very near the finish line, shortly after the bombing, which suggests that networks were never totally shut down. Still, shutting down cell phone networks to prevent remote detonation wouldn't be without precedent: It is a common tactic in Pakistan, where bombings happen with regularity.)"
Why the network operators didn't get requests to shutdown the network, that doesn't mean it wasn't jammed. The military has jammers it uses where they suspect IEDs to prevent triggering via the cell network. There is no reason why the BPD, DHS or other agency would not have jammers for such an occasion. I would be surprised if they did not with all the money that was thrown around after 9/11
I would think that shutting down cell towers wouldn't be particularly effective, given that the same mechanism that would allow one to trigger a bomb with a cell phone is also present in other RF devices such as baby monitors and walkie-talkies.
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After the Earthquake in Virginia in 2011, you couldn't make a cell call to save your life, since several million people picked up their phones within a few minutes of each other. Text messages went through fine within a half a minute or so. Something similar happens whenever an unexpected event of note happens anywhere.
I almost never use text messaging, but it is extremely useful when cell networks are overloaded as it uses almost no bandwidth and hence messages almost always get through. Unfortunately not many people think of it that way and tend to keep trying to make a voice call when the network is rejecting their attempts.
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that during an immediate crisis or disaster, cellular networks will become quickly overloaded. network providers acknowledge this and tout things like COW and COLT (Cellular on Wheels and Cellular on Light Truck) as a solution. what isnt clearly stated is that these systems may be hundreds of miles from the immediate area, or may rely on existing trunks and uplinks that are themselves completely saturated, if they havent been destroyed by $crisis || $disaster. cellular providers also have a terrible habit of booking these emergency systems for sporting events to augment their second rate cellular networks.
For geeks who understand how cellular works its limitations are pretty obvious, so im seriously wondering if amateur radio played any part in assisting during this crisis?
ham was designed from its inception to help in a civil emergency, and it would be hard to imagine an event like the boston marathon without at least one 2 meter or 6 meter general class or extra present.
does boston use ASTRO? or EDACS radio networks for emergency services? if so how did these networks perform?
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Whether cell towers were working or not is a stupid thing to focus on, here. How about the coming absolute surrender of all remaining liberties? Since 9-11, I've repeatedly pointed out that all we need is one more big terrorist event to shake the population enough that we will give up everything. Complaits about the TSA, second amendment, privacy, government and corporate wiretapping without justification. All of it. It is over. We lose.by attacking us, we shell up. We take away our own freedomFOR them. It is time to shutter yro.slashdot, because it no longer matters.
My first thought was that they were simple countdown timers, as there were a couple seconds between explosions. If they were triggered remotely, they would have gone off simultaneously of they were triggered by the same operation,or longer than a few seconds between explosions if they were triggered separately (I guess the bomber could have had 2 phones and dialed the bombs as the same time, but that seems overly complicated). The amount of time between explosions lends credence to the idea that they were simple timers: set one then set the other a couple hours before, drop them off, then get away.
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By 'so many' you mean 'none'? HINT: don't pay attention to the news to get any good information about the bombs for at least 24 hours. There reporting anything they hear, regardless of source.
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So... considering that's we hear about this with EVERY major catastrophe, would this be the sort of national infrastructure concern that we would want to mandate that the cell companies install extra capacity? You know, in case of emergencies. Are we at the point that we can consider cellular connection, or generically wireless connection, to be a basic utility and not a cutting edge hip new ordeal that only the rich can afford?
And hey, since they've got ALL THAT BANDWIDTH, just lying about in case shit hits the fan, it'd be great to sell it on the cheap. You know, that idea that society and the fundamental utilities is here to foster growth rather than wringing out the last coin from the customer's pockets.
Uh.. doesn't this happen after just about every disaster?
If you design the networks to work at the utilization that you see after a disaster there would be cell phone towers at every corner, our bills would be $500 or more a month, and it would be using a very low percentage of its capacity 99.99% of the time.
It isn't what is important at the moment, anyway.
I believe SMS piggy-backs on a transmission from the tower which is a different protocol than what is used for voice/data*. It seems possible that SMS may work when voice/data has been blocked.
"transport messages on the signaling paths needed to control the telephone traffic during time periods when no signaling traffic existed. "
[*] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Message_Service
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Officials also announced a twist in the probe: Suspicious packages that were detonated out of precaution were not explosive devices after all.
That's not a twist, it's just a thing. A twist is if it turns out to have been Richard Simmons.
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VZW appeared heavily overloaded and calls were not going through. Additionally, text messages also appeared to be throttled or heavily delayed. If this was a result of jamming or some other technology to throttle the network, calls were being placed, they were not however providing audio. I received about 20 calls from my girlfriend who lives in the area and her calls were ringing through and "completing", but no audio was making it over the line. Calls I was placing appeared to ring through (five or six rings?) and made it to voicemail in most cases, although I did get a couple Verizon messages instead of the voicemail box.
Text messages we were sending each other were either extremely delayed or never made it at all (some did). I would go with the disaster norm of badly overloaded. We resorted to email via wifi instead of relying on the cell networks. When she took to the car to pick up her sister in South Boston (T services were shutdown in and around Boston), she was able to start completing calls and texts were making it through.
As someone who had a loved one in the World Trade Center on 9/11 and couldn't reach her on her mobile until the afternoon, I'm not surprised that a cell network became overloaded. It's happened in other times too.
Considering this wreaked of terrorism, especially to those on the scene, things really blew up. Marathoners calling loved ones and even just REGULAR citizens in Boston (perhaps far away from the site) getting / making calls in a panic, etc.
Cell towers aren't magic, they can only support so much. And since the phone companies aren't using their profits to expand their existing networks then a large metro getting hit with an event is going to overload it... or at least a general region. I mean, in that immediate area alone you had: people living / working in the buildings, LOTS of runners, LOTS of spectators, etc.
Perhaps the feds DID put up a jammer. Perhaps we don't know the whole story. I'm just saying, that an overloaded network sounds perfectly plausible.
Depends. There are reason to delay explosions.
That is true, but if you are going to delay explosions, you don't delay them for only a couple seconds.
If you want the simultaneous, then it doesn't matter if they are a couple of seconds apart. For effectiveness it has no consequenses. And maybe this is easier to handle, e.g. if you have to use two remote detonators. If bomb A doesn't go off, you can decide not to use bomb B, for whatever reason.
Something's really weird going on with this whole mess. Given redundancies and failover capacity, I'm having a hard time believing that simple load caused failures that blocked cellular transmissions, especially as the failure occurred pretty much right after the blast, and not enough awareness would have been out there to cause the level of traffic needed to bring down the cell system soon enough to have had any effects in blocking cellular-detonated explosives.
Given the fact that a simple new year can bring down a network (in the sense that most people cannot make calls for half an hour), this doesn't surprise me.
Becasue it was over.
Plus, any response that is standard will be trivially worked around.
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I don't know for sure on cell service, but there's a whole lot of other outdated information in that article. Specifically, the fire at the jfk library is now known to be unrelated, and law enforcement officials have stated that no undetonated devices were found.
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Oh wait, not news at 11, it's news all the time. Doesn't matter that there's nothing new to report, that it's all over, that it will takes days to get any more answer, we have to have wallpaper news because all the other stations are having it. Everyone's hoping for another 9/11.
Oh how I wish for a return to a half hour news bulletin 3 times a day, when journalists had time to go out and find what's going on rather than sit in a studio doing two-ways, reading wires and copy that's come from the studio.
That's enough from me standing outside an empty office block, back to you in the studio. I'll be here again in 15 minutes though for an update.
Ah, the rush to misreport. This is why I wait a week to read about what happened. News outlets, and law enforcement officials, will just make stuff up because it's too early to know what really happened. Enjoy your speculation!
Facts: There were 2 explosions near the finish of the Boston Marathon yesterday. 3 people have died.
Opinion: Everything else on the news for the last 24 hours.
In such emergencies, its better to use SMS than place a voice call.
SMS rides on control signal and as long as your cell phone has a signal, it will get queued and delivered.
Voice calls require acquiring of a dedicated voice channel, these are limited and overloaded in such emergencies.
But the opposite actually appears to be true, when the "emergency" is in an area where a lot of folks are trying to use their cell phones at the same time.
During some weather catastrophes a few years back, I could not get a single call to go through on the biggest carrier in my area, but texts did go through successfully. It's just less data packets to carry the information.
It's also interesting to note that the failures of cell networks illustrates the cell carriers overselling of their networks, or to say it a different way, their failure to invest in their infrastructure to adequately support the number of customers they have.