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Coelacanth Genome Sequenced

damn_registrars writes "The lobe-finned fish described as a 'living fossil' due to its apparent lack of change for hundreds of millions of years (thought to be extinct until the 1930s) has been sequenced by an international team, including scientists from Sweden, Harvard, and MIT. The 3-billion-base-pair genome of the Coelacanth was described yesterday in the journal Nature. This paper is published in an open (non-paywalled) manner on Nature, making the full text available to all. 'We found that the genes overall are evolving significantly slower than in every other fish and land vertebrate that we looked at.'"

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  1. Why Evolve by zenrandom · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They don't really seem to have any convincing external factors to make them evolve. I have not RTFA'd, but most things evolve because they have trouble surviving. There are so few of these things that they are endangered, but they don't have any natural predators because they apparently make anything that eats it sick... check the wikipedia article on them.

    1. Re:Why Evolve by djl4570 · · Score: 2

      That was my thought. Evolution requires selective pressure that causes certain traits to become assets or liabilities. The coelacanth fills an ecological niche and doesn't have much if any competition in that niche except from other coelacanths.

    2. Re:Why Evolve by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 2

      That was my thought. Evolution requires selective pressure that causes certain traits to become assets or liabilities. The coelacanth fills an ecological niche and doesn't have much if any competition in that niche except from other coelacanths.

      Competition from other members of the same species is supposed to be one of the major drivers of natural selection.

    3. Re:Why Evolve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But why would natural selection lead to significant evolutionary diversification if maintaining the status quo is closest to the optimal solution? In that case, wouldn't selection work to keep things more of the same? I'd suspect those fish probably aren't alone in being "genetically old", there are likely some insects and creatures like jellyfish that really haven't evolved much since some wormlike thing had the luck to spawn the first vertebrate. Thus plenty of critters we have now aren't really all that much different than the ones the dinosaurs were living with.

  2. That kind of longevity is awesome by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's amazing to think that a species is so well adapted that it's survived numerous extinction events and still looks relatively the same. Three hundred million years ago, this planet would have looked like an alien world!

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    1. Re:That kind of longevity is awesome by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My understanding is that it has a very efficient metabolic system that allows it to survive famines. It's comparable to some snakes: sit quiet in waiting for long periods of time with meals few and far between. Rather than compete with the newer younger faster whipper-snapper ray-finned fish, it found a nice little niche of hiding out and cruising.

    2. Re:That kind of longevity is awesome by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 2

      We have the ability to compare this fish to actual fossils from the time, your incredulity notwithstanding. What boggles my mind is why ancient life has so many more gene pairs than current life. It's like we are being sculpted from some master block of genes.

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  3. but is the rate of genetic drift normal? by schlachter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I get that there may be low selection pressure. Are they claiming that there's also a slower rate of genetic drift? That would be interesting. I just assumed that drift would happen similarly across species, perhaps with some minor variation for body temp, metabolism, habitat (i.e. radiation exposure), etc.

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  4. Re:An obvious extrapolation... by LateArthurDent · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "...We found that the genes overall are evolving significantly slower than in every other fish and land vertebrate that we looked at.'"..

    Which indicates that their environment has hardly changed in many million years...

    It can also mean they're fairly robust and can survive in a large range of environments. I think that's more likely considering the other fish sharing the same environment has evolved faster.

    That said, it's not like the ocean is dominated by coelecanth, so it doesn't mean they've reached optimality or anything. Just that they're good enough to continue reproducing and surviving.

  5. Re:ATTENTION SLASHDOT ADMINS ... apk by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Informative

    I always post/repost this under my own flag, and never sail the seas of LULZ with another pseudonym or anon posting.

    Never.

    I was here before you. I was here before there were "logins".

    I will be here - long after you've gone - adding value to conversations and spicing others with provocative and sometimes unpopular opinions.

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  6. Re:Really? by rmdingler · · Score: 2

    You aren't a big noticer either, 'cuz somebody already got your extra O.

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  7. Re:ATTENTION SLASHDOT ADMINS ... apk by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why not just prevent posts from ACs, new accounts, or accounts with negative karma from going up for, I dunno, half an hour on a story?

    Or maybe reorder comments so that they're by score and not first posted by default? Maybe don't jump right into it. There's this little website called reddit that does it that way, maybe slashdot should wait and see if that catches on before making the jump. Maybe people really like completely off-topic posts as the first thing they see?

    I get the feeling that slashdot is trolling me these days. They're still updating stuff, but not bothering to fix that.

  8. Genetic Curmudgeon by Mystakaphoros · · Score: 2
    *shakes its non-evolved fist* Those damned kids...

    If Coelacanth had a front porch, it'd be stealing our baseballs and yelling at us.

  9. Woah by wakeboarder · · Score: 4, Funny

    The first time I read it I thought it said Cthulhu genome sequenced, now that would be impressive.

  10. How do they measure that? by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article was pretty sketchy on details. How do they establish how fast coelecanth genes are changing? It's not like they can break open a package of 300 million year old coelecanths and sequence the ancient genome. You have to compare it to other modern animals.

  11. Re:An obvious extrapolation... by heson · · Score: 2

    That said, it's not like the ocean is dominated by coelecanth, so it doesn't mean they've reached optimality or anything. Just that they're good enough to continue reproducing and surviving.

    I would say that their genes are stuck in a local maxima where they can't evolve. Any mutation dies off or are so different that they leave the area and become a new species.