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Baseball Software Can't Score What Jean Segura Did Friday

JimboFBX writes "Interesting piece of baseball history happened on Friday. Jean Segura of the Milwaukee Brewers stole second, tried to steal third too early, but made it back to second before being tagged. The problem was that teammate Ryan Braun already made it to second on the steal attempt. After tags were applied to both baserunners, Segura started trotting to the dugout before realizing that he wasn't out, Braun was, and his only option was to make it back to first. He then of course proceeded to try to steal second base again. The software for keeping the box score? Doesn't (yet) support someone running backwards on the bases. Looks like that will have to change." Here is video of the sequence.

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  1. Re:(YouTube) footage? by thoth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Segura attempted to steal third base too early, before the pitcher delivered the ball. Thus when Braun and Segura both wound up on 2nd, only Braun was out - Segura's attempted steal wasn't legit (Segura should never have left the base) therefore Braun's position was invalid and he was tagged. I think had Segura waited he would have been tagged out, since if his steal attempt was legit then Braun's position was fine and Segura would have been invalid.

    Anyway, while going back to the dugout he realized he wasn't out, and apparently there is an loophole in the rules which allowed his to then run to the closest available base to be safe, which happened to be first.

  2. George Carlin: Baseball vs Football by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Baseball is different from any other sport, very different. For instance, in most sports you score points or goals; in baseball you score runs. In most sports the ball, or object, is put in play by the offensive team; in baseball the defensive team puts the ball in play, and only the defense is allowed to touch the ball. In fact, in baseball if an offensive player touches the ball intentionally, he's out; sometimes unintentionally, he's out.

    Also: in football,basketball, soccer, volleyball, and all sports played with a ball, you score with the ball and in baseball the ball prevents you from scoring.

    In most sports the team is run by a coach; in baseball the team is run by a manager. And only in baseball does the manager or coach wear the same clothing the players do. If you'd ever seen John Madden in his Oakland Raiders uniform,you'd know the reason for this custom.

    Now, I've mentioned football. Baseball & football are the two most popular spectator sports in this country. And as such, it seems they ought to be able to tell us something about ourselves and our values.

    I enjoy comparing baseball and football:

    Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game. Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.

    Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park.The baseball park! Football is played on a gridiron, in a stadium, sometimes called Soldier Field or War Memorial Stadium.

    Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life. Football begins in the fall, when everything's dying.

    In football you wear a helmet. In baseball you wear a cap.

    Football is concerned with downs - what down is it? Baseball is concerned with ups - who's up?

    In football you receive a penalty. In baseball you make an error.

    In football the specialist comes in to kick. In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.

    Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting and unnecessary roughness. Baseball has the sacrifice.

    Football is played in any kind of weather: rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog... In baseball, if it rains, we don't go out to play.

    Baseball has the seventh inning stretch. Football has the two minute warning.

    Baseball has no time limit: we don't know when it's gonna end - might have extra innings. Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we've got to go to sudden death.

    In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling; emotions may run high or low, but there's not too much unpleasantness. In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you're capable of taking the life of a fellow human being.

    And finally, the objectives of the two games are completely different:

    In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

    In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! - I hope I'll be safe at home! - George Carlin

    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/humor7.shtml

    George Carlin - “Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror”

  3. Re:Reminds me of this book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You have NO idea what you're talking about. Ask Robin Ventura, who hit a ball out of the park with the bases loaded, but was mobbed before he could round second base: he was officially credited with a single, known to Mets fans as "The Grand Slam Single." Game 5 1999 NLCS.

  4. Re:Reminds me of this book by swalve · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Was this guy in the book? My great grand uncle.

  5. Re:Reminds me of this book by sconeu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When they resumed the infamous "Pine Tar" game, several months later, Billy Martin appealed at each base, claiming that George Brett didn't touch all the bases.

    However, the umpires were ready, and had affadavits from the original umpiring crew stating that he had.

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    General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.