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Hybrid RotorWing Design Transitions From Fixed To Rotary Wing Mid-Flight

cylonlover writes "Attempts to combine the vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) capabilities of a helicopter with the high-speed flight and long range capabilities of a fixed-wing aircraft have been tackled in a number of different ways – from tiltrotor designs, such as the V-280 Valor and Project Zero, to fixed rotor aircraft that transition from vertical to horizontal flight, such as the SkyTote and Flexrotor. Australian company StopRotor Technology has taken a different approach with its Hybrid RotorWing design concept which features a main rotor that switches from fixed rotor to fixed wing in mid air."

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  1. The 6th Day by BlacKSacrificE · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone has been watching it.

    "Convert to da choppa!" - Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Though at least these guys seem to have worked out how to stop the thing from sinking like a stone during rotor transition though, which is a welcome feature.

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    1. Re:The 6th Day by j-beda · · Score: 4, Informative

      Though at least these guys seem to have worked out how to stop the thing from sinking like a stone during rotor transition though, which is a welcome feature.

      I don't know, the flight path from their simulation video looks a lot like it drops like a stone for a while:
      1) Fly along in "airplane mode" with the rotor fixed perpendicular to the body, acting like a wing - regular amount of lift being generated
      2) lift the nose until the airflow is perpendicular to the bottom of the rotor - not much lift being generated now
      3) unlock the rotor so that the wind can start it rotating like an autogyro - starts to provide significant amount of lift
      4) apply power to the rotor and get into helicopter mode - regular amount of lift being provided.

      Step #2 looks a bit like falling.

      Going the other way
      1) Fly in helicopter mode, moving forward at a fast clip - regular amount of lift being provided
      2) Lift the nose to get airflow perpendicular to the bottom of the rotor -
      3) Stop the rotor and get it fixed perpendicular to the body - not much lift being generated now
      4) drop the nose to get the airflow over the now fixed wing - regular amount of airplane lift.

      Step #3 looks a whole lot like falling.

    2. Re:The 6th Day by dywolf · · Score: 3, Informative
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  2. Re:It's just an autogyro by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Informative

    Autogyros are very old tech.

    From TFA "The design features a powered main rotor" so no, not an autogyro.

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  3. Re:Harrier? by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Informative

    A bit different. The rough rotor equivalent of the Harrier is a tiltrotor design, where the rotor rotates from a position where it generates vertical thrust (for takeoff) to one where it generates horizontal thrust (for flight).

    This design instead stops the rotor when in horizontal flight, fixing it at an angle perpendicular to the fuselage so it becomes a wing generating lift. Then forward thrust is provided by separate, flight-only engines mounted in a conventional manner. When the plane wants to land again, the rotor stops being a wing, and starts spinning again in a helicopter style, to provide vertical thrust.

  4. Man is that thing ugly by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 2

    It's interesting engineering and all, but I was kind of hoping that when someone finally built a helicopter that transformed into an airplane, it'd look cooler. This thing looks like a flying cigar with toothpicks coming out of it. As it is I think I'd rather fly in that autogiro made of crates, whose rotor was Pippi Longstocking spinning a pair of brooms, than this thing.

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  5. Re:It's just an autogyro by BlacKSacrificE · · Score: 2

    FTFA;

    The Hybrid RotorWing can operate in five different flight modes.

    Fixed Wing Flight: where the RotorWing is locked to operate as a fixed wing
    Rotary Wing Flight: The RotorWing rotates like a helicopter rotor providing sustained hover capability
    Compound Rotary Wing Flight: where the rotors requirement to produce lift and thrust is off loaded to other lifting surfaces or propulsion engines
    Autogiro Flight: a form of rotary wing flight where the rotor is driven by the relative airflow and not directly by the engine
    Transition Flight Mode: where the conversion from fixed to rotary or rotary to fixed wing flight occurs

    Autogyro mode is one of 5 flight modes. To call this an old concept is like saying tyres are not a new concept because we have spoked wagon wheels. Its existing tech, but better.

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  6. Re:Harrier? by dj245 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Is this like the Harrier, where the motor switches from vertical to horizontal?

    No, it is a helicopter where you stop the rotor and then use it as a wing for flying straight ahead with a traditional propellor. There is a typo in the summary.

    This design would necessitate that the airfoil be symetrical along the long axis. Think VW Beatle shaped rather than teardrop-shaped like a typical NACA airfoil. This is probably a lot less efficient than a normal airfoil. Locking the airfoil would also be tricky- The rotor must come to a stop, so upwards lift is basically 0. At the same time, there is no wing for the front propeller to work on. Or worse, a wing oriented in the wrong direction. If they make a full-scale version, I hope the test pilot is single without any kids.

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  7. Re:Harrier? by dj245 · · Score: 4, Informative

    A bit different. The rough rotor equivalent of the Harrier is a tiltrotor design, where the rotor rotates from a position where it generates vertical thrust (for takeoff) to one where it generates horizontal thrust (for flight).

    You are thinking of the V-22 Osprey. The Harrier uses a jet engine and ducting to direct the jet blast downward. There are no tilting rotors.

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  8. Saw this in Popular Science 25 years ago... by Ken_g6 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yep, I remember this too. I even found the site of someone who claims to have created it. But you and he are off by 10 years - it was July 1987.

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    1. Re:Saw this in Popular Science 25 years ago... by dywolf · · Score: 2

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-72
      The sikorsky S-72 demo prototype. Never actually made the conversion from rotary to fixed flight mid-air, but did fly in both configs seperately.

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  9. Is this a good solution by 91degrees · · Score: 2

    Seems there will have to be a few design compromises

    The rotors need a drive mechanism. This is dead weight when in level flight.
    The rotors will need to be symmetrical, making them less efficient as wings and as rotors.
    The whole system is more complex than either a plane or a helicopter. Makes building and maintaining it more expensive.

    What are the advantages over a vectored thrust approach?

  10. The '80s called... by saintory · · Score: 2

    They want their concepts back. M.A.S.K. series V.E.N.O.M. Switchblade: http://www.albertpenello.com/mask/switchblade.html But who needs fixed wings when you've got Airwolf, a Mach 1+ Chopper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airwolf#The_Airwolf_helicopter

  11. Re:Harrier? by dywolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Been done. S-72 and X-50 prototypes. Its very unstable. The bring a rotor to a controlled stop thing is easy, existing rotor brakes can be geared to align it fairly precisely when it comes to a stop. The lift transition is the issue. It's not just that lift is basically 0. It's that one half of the rotor disc (the theoretical abstract describing the lift forces) has to completely reverse the airflow of the lifting surface.

    Its essentially an expanded case of the Retreating Blade Stall problem.

    But the retreating half of the rotor disc has to, as some point, go from generating lift from a retreating motion through the air (moving backwards relative to airframe, due to rotation) to generating lift from an advancing motion through the air (moving forwards, relative to airframem though no longer rotating). The easiest way to think about it isnt to think of it as going from rotating to fixed, but rather think about a rotor that is simply being reversed in direction (simplfies a lot of math).

    So at some point in the middle there, half the rotor disc will fall below stall speed, and experience a stall similar to the effect of a Retreating Blade Stall. Worse, won't regain sufficient lift until its now going ~100 KIAS in the opposite direction. Think of it as stalling between -100 and +100 KIAS (example number) as it crosses the transition.

    The only craft I can see being able to cross that boundary zone would be a very small, very lightweight rotor that is able to make extremely fast accelerations, and thus cross the zone before it's able to affect the craft much. A full scale craft would simply have too much inertia/momentum to be able to make the transition fast enough, without tearing itself to pieces. Likewise for any craft trying to stop the rotor and use forward motion to generate the lift.

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  12. Re:Harrier? by EasyTarget · · Score: 2

    I think his original comment made it clear he knows the difference; that's why he called the Tiltrotor a 'rotor equivalent to' the Harrier.

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  13. Re:Harrier? by jklovanc · · Score: 2

    They have a way to get around the rotor stall issue. While none of the videos had a shot of a transition it looks like the aircraft stalls, ceasing forward movement, and while it is falling through the air the rotor spins up or spins down. The then use the conventional control surfaces to translate the vertical movement into horizontal movement. That could require quite a bit of a drop depending on how fast the rotor can change speed.

    It looks like quite a carnival ride during transition..