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MySQL Founders Reunite To Form SkySQL

mikejuk writes "The founders of the original MySQL, the open-source database, are getting back together in a merger between Monty Program and SkySQL. SkySQL was created by around two dozen former MySQL executives and investors after Oracle bought MySQL from Sun. Widenius started Monty Program AB and created the MariaDB database from some of MySQL's open source code. The merger will provide a stronger rival to MySQL, so reassuring users who are worried about Oracle's future plans for the database."

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  1. What a relief by verifine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anything that takes Oracle out of the way of MySQL gets my vote!

    1. Re:What a relief by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why don't they all throw themselves in with PostgreSQL, which is more of a real robust relational database, and continue that as the true open source alternative to Oracle?

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    2. Re:What a relief by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Meanwhile, their work allows you to become successful, FOR FREE... so you know, they're definitely screwing you.

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    3. Re:What a relief by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A number of developers familiar with MySQL fire up PostgreSQL or MS SQL Server or Oracle, try it out for awhile, find that they get a ton of errors that they don't understand because MySQL let them get away with egregious idiocy, and then retreat back to MySQL.

      Source: used to be me.

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  2. Which will power SkyNet by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Hasta la vista, Baby!

  3. Exciting development for MariaDB by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I understand the release correctly, this will mean that MariaDB will continue with organizational support from SkySQL. Sounds like they are well on the road to being the top MySQL "distribution" which is good reassurance for making the switch.

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    1. Re:Exciting development for MariaDB by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes. Especially since it's a "drop in" replacement for MySQL.

      I was already tempted. Now I'm pretty much convinced.

  4. The crying game by sdinfoserv · · Score: 5, Informative

    Monty needs to stop crying about what Oracle is / will do with MySQL. He sold MySQl walkng away with almost A BILLION DOLLARS! If he cared that much, he wouldn't have sold.

    1. Re:The crying game by geek · · Score: 4, Informative

      For a billion dollars even a true believer would sell. You could take a fraction of that billion and make another DB and still have enough money to jerk off with thousand dollar bills for the rest of your life.

    2. Re:The crying game by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Funny

      dev/null has superior insert performance and similar transactional guarantees.

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  5. the latest news from i-programmer.info by nimbius · · Score: 3, Funny

    "general absence of programmers, engineers fails to deter C-levels from merging two companies in an effort to become a more robust alternative to databases that still arent hadoop, couch or hypertable"

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  6. What a relief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's all back these guys so that they can sell us out a second time later down the road, when the community makes them successful again.

  7. Re:Stronger rival? by LordNightwalker · · Score: 3, Funny

    There are several good open source/free to use database engines. MySQL is not one of them.

    On the other hand, it's the only concurrent DB I would consider to be a perfect match for PHP. ;)

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  8. Model for the new FLOSS business model by c0d3g33k · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1. Create a popular but flawed FLOSS product (MySQL).
    2. Build a business atop flawed FLOSS product (MySQL AB).
    3. Ca$h out by selling your baby to formerly glorious tech company on the ropes (FGTCOTR, aka SUN).
    4. Profit!
    5. Leave FGTCOTR after a tasteful waiting period to start your own company DOING THE SAME THING YOU JUST SOLD because you can fork the OSS codebase you just sold.
    6. Take public potshots at EVIL Corp (who very predictably acquired FGTCOTR) for mismanaging the baby you sold (because EVIL), while flogging your fork of the product you sold as a viable alternative (FLOSS, to cloak yourself in the veneer of legitimacy because you can live off of steps 3 and 4).
    7. Reunite to form company that does the same thing the company you sold for big $$$ did, to compete with the product you willingly relinquished control over.
    8. GOTO #1?

    I can't decide whether to admire Monty for successfully gaming the system, or condemn him as an amoral manipulator who wasted no time screwing over the very people he sold out to at the earliest possible opportunity.

    Grudgingly, I lean toward admiration. Nicely done, sir.

    That said, I avoid MySQL as the half-baked relational DB pretender that it is and use PostgreSQL whenever possible. Better technology without the drama. I have never regretted PgSQL once, MySQL many times.

  9. Re:Stronger rival? by shugah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MySQL (or MariaDB, or SkySQL) are not suitable for use in banking, but the vast majority of database applications don't have the same requirements of banks. Banks have extremely high data integrity, retention and security requirements. Armoured cars have extremely high security and cargo integrity and retention requirements. But vast majority of transportation applications don't require armoured cars.

    MySQL is demonstrably scaleable and is secure and robust enough for the vast majority of applications. It is used extensively in health care - which has fairly high privacy and data retention requirements. It's a matter of using the right tool for the right application. Sledge hammers are useful for breaking concrete, not so much for framing. Statements like "because banks don't use MySQL, you shouldn't either" are just ignorant.

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  10. Re:I'm sick of the whining. Software development = by shugah · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think the FOSS community would probably have been fine if MySQL had remained with an independent (and profitable) Sun. But Oracle is not Sun. For me, personally, the Oracle v. Google lawsuit pretty much gave notice that Oracle would go scorched earth on anyone who used "their" open source properties in ways they didn't approve of.

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  11. Stay away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because the people who came up with MySQL shouldn't be touching PostgreSQL code.

  12. SQL Query by billstewart · · Score: 5, Funny

    SELECT Name, Date, Time, Lat, Long, Photo FROM humans WHERE Name = "Sarah Connor"

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  13. Re:Stronger rival? by c0d3g33k · · Score: 3, Informative

    Understood, but as far as I am aware, MySQL never pretended to be that.

    Monty has long made excuses for MySQL's inadequacies (most notably the pre-INNODB argument that foreign key constraints weren't really that important and you could just enforce such constraints in software). So there *were* attempts to pretend that MySQL was a "serious" database equivalent to better alternatives. Many of the shortcuts MySQL uses (or used - some of this is historical) apply to edge cases that aren't apparent to "I'm not a DBA" developers creating simple LAMP applications. But when you *do* run into one of those edge cases, then you quickly feel the pain and realize that it could have all been avoided.

    Here's a good read: http://grimoire.ca/mysql/choose-something-else

  14. Re:Explain, please? by geek · · Score: 3, Informative

    SkySQL is a commercial entity that uses MySQL and now MariahDB - http://www.skysql.com/

    They are replacing MySQL with MariahDB for their hosted solutions and throwing financial backing at the project. MariahDB is not going away. I would encourage you to look into PostgreSQL however as an alternative: http://www.postgresql.org/

  15. Re:http://www.linuxadvocates.com/p/support.html by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Informative

    He's been posting these emails in almost every thread for the last few days. He's the "my fast pc" spammer for some unknown Linux website. If you check his Contact page [linuxadvocates.com] you'll see I am not him as he doesn't like his email address displayed in a scrape-able way

    Are you really that dim? I already linked "joe job" and you still managed to miss the entire point.

    Let me explain it in *very* *simple* *words*. The person that posted the original "spam" above is probably *not* "Dieter T. Schmitz" as they claim, but someone else who is (a) trying to make him look bad (b) trolling, and/or (c) stirring up trouble by pretending to post spam under his identity.

    Your logic is circular- you're already assuming that "he" posted the original comment, when in fact "he" probably didn't and "he" isn't the same person.

    Good grief...

    He's the "my fast pc" spammer for some unknown Linux website.

    This *does* explain a lot... about you. If you're one of the idiots that genuinely believed the "My Clean PC" comments were spam- even long after anyone with half a brain could see it was being kept going by trolls- then you're even more gullible and blinkered than I thought you were.

    Anyway, I only posted my original comment as a heads up to those so lacking in common sense that they might have planned on harassing the alleged "spammer".

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