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WWDC Sells Out In 2 Minutes; Ticket On eBay 45 Minutes Later
alphadogg writes "The Apple Worldwide Developers Conference sold out in just two minutes today, blowing away last year's record of two hours. Tickets went on sale today at 10 a.m. PDT, as was announced yesterday, when Apple said its event would be held June 10-14 at Moscone West in San Francisco. Apple WWDC runs neck-and-neck with the annual Google I/O event in the race for hottest tech show. The Google event, slated for May 15-17 at Moscone Center, sold out in 45 minutes this year. While transferring tickets for WWDC is generally not allowed, an ambitious eBay seller is attempting to get $10K for the $1,600 ticket."
So can someone maybe get a leak of the attendee list so I can write a script that eliminates them from all my social media platforms?
I already have a plastic iPhone. It's called a 3GS.
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Just curious, as an iOS and an OS X dev before that, I've never really seen any reason to go to this -- even when I lived close enough I happened to walk by it on my way to the Whole Foods one year. Is there a lot of opportunity to make sales or schmooze your way into Apple employees' good graces? Otherwise, I'm not sure what the point is if you already know how to use the APIs and don't have a problem reading about upcoming changes online. I do remember them having some freebies and stuff at previous ones, but nothing worth the ticket price.
And not fanboys?
(For reference, I remember being an actual Apple Developer, and receiving the monthly CDROMs with amusing titles)
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
The session videos are usually available the next week. Occasionally I'll write some app to automate some task on my mac, and I've really enjoyed watching the videos in previous years. Definitely stuff for nerds;)
While transferring tickets for WWDC is generally not allowed, an ambitious eBay seller is attempting to get $10K for the $1,600 ticket.
And if the result was that he lost his $1600 then scalpers would stop doing this and ticket sales would go back to reflecting the actual demand for the event.
It's just like spam. Stop rewarding them and they go away. This is even easier than spam because there is a real cost of doing business, not nearly free e-mails.
Course that would require something rather unAmerican like acting on principle. Well maybe I shouldn't pick on America. Just about all of Western civilization has forgotten what this means. I guess they're too busy being offended by something or the other.
Having hands that one of my kids once told me resembled bear paws... oversized and clumsy, something about the same size as the Galaxy S3 would be ideal for my purposes, because I've always found the iPhone display to be unusably tiny for anything involving complex interactivity (such as texting, for instance).
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We could merge the two and have Howard Stern MC the whole bloody affair. OOOOh! iPod to the head. I CAN'T BELIEVE THE REF DIDN'T SEE THAT!
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Aren't they going to stream all the sessions live on the web to anyone with an Apple Dev ID? I'm not sure what that $1600 buys you. There are probably some hardware and software handouts, but aren't those available by other means as well?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
I do remember them having some freebies and stuff at previous ones
They give you a track jacket and that is IT. The track jacket does not have pockets. One year the did give away a nice, if simplistic, backpack. Unlike many other conferences there are no vendors, hence no other free stuff.
Otherwise, I'm not sure what the point is if you already know how to use the APIs and don't have a problem reading about upcoming changes online.
There are a few points of value that have diminished. The first is that the WWDC sessions have usually a lot of good demos about HOW to use the new technology, which is quite a lot more useful than just reading about the raw API. The second was that people used to ask questions after the presentation, which was not on the video - that was done away with last year though, which is a real shame as the questions were often full of insight about the technology and potential issues.
But since as noted they stopped taking questions, and you can also see the videos a week later that reason is not as prominent (though it doesn't hurt to be a bit ahead of the curve).
schmooze your way into Apple employees' good graces?
That's not really a reason to go as it will not do much for you. But what is still valuable there is that you can talk to Apple engineers directly responsible for the different frameworks across the iOS API. These labs took some time to get to someone who was really one of the primary developers, but when you did reach them it could be very useful to find the answer to some deep problem.
It's also useful just to talk to other developers there, pretty much anyone who is there is usually pretty knowledgeable and has worked on some interesting stuff.
It's also good to take a solid week off work and just think about upcoming changes to the API and direction Apple is going,
Also on a side note WWDC usually has some pretty cool lunchtime speakers, last year for instance J.J. Abrams and Neil Armstrong were speakers (different days), for a few years they had a guy from Pixar with a really good talk. It's not a reason to spend some effort and $1600 on a ticket, but it is a nice break.
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sell the pants on eBay for $10,000
apk has been doing all the stuff that the 'luser' is being accused of for years, so if the person who wrote this is actually apk, pull your head in... if you can't take it don't (continue even now to) dish it out
if it's someone impersonating apk, get a life dude... at least impersonate someone noteworthy like steve jobs, linus torvalds, or even barack obama...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Lmcq7Qe6Y
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I'll be impressed when they can match ComicCon San Diego, who have a hard time finding a ticket sales service that can stand up to more than a few seconds before it collapses under the load. The only reason it took 93 minutes to sell out completely was the slow server response times. Not many wet sites can handle 140,000+ people trying to log in at the same time.
While transferring tickets for WWDC is generally not allowed, an ambitious eBay seller is attempting to get $10K for the $1,600 ticket."
Trying to sell something to Apple users at 6 times the value instead of the usual 3 is ambitious indeed.
this was reposted on another topic... wtf?
It seems to me without knowing how many tickets of both were sold its pointless to compare how long they took to sell out.
OOOOh! iPod to the head. I CAN'T BELIEVE THE REF DIDN'T SEE THAT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0
skip to 0:35
omg do you really come to slashdot looking for stuff that matters? hahahaha.... fool
it's a geek site
Especially when it's FAKE.
Just another troll. Someone saw the success that APK has had and decided to get into the annoyance game.
You may be thinking of the labs, where people can go to ask Apple engineers specific questions about different technologies or just get help with problems.
Workshops to be are really more like hands-on tutorials for learning, which does not exist at WWDC (it does at other conferences).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Have you ever seen a WWDC session? A two hour talk about how to use Grand Central Dispatch or the OpenCL framework could hardly be classified as non-technical.
Apple went above and beyond the normal process, including law enforcment involvement, for recovering one of their prototypes. Why not just do the same to smite the practice and make an example out of those involved?
That, and if they're good at it, bind the ticket to a nontransferable item that has some worth to it(e.g. a non prepaid credit card that was used to purchase it) as well as whatever ID is already required to enter(such as government issue). $1600 admission definitely can demand such protection from scalping.
If Apple has to be draconian about something, nontransferabilty of WWDC admission would be a good place to start. Go Gallagher on the scalpers until they stop.
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They should have a small coding test you have to get through in order to get to the sign up page.
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then scalpers would stop doing this and ticket sales would go back to reflecting the actual demand for the event.
Ticket sales shouldn't reflect actual demand. Use an auction system so the price reflects real demand. Scalping is a sign your price is too low, cancelling due to lack of sales is a sign your price is too high. But using an auction system solves both problems, and ensures both that the price reflects the actual demand and that the house is always full.
That way, you don't have to introduce retarded and unnecessary restrictions on ticket buyers, such as preventing resale or creating laws against scalpers. It may mean that resellers will have to sell for less than they paid, which is perfectly reasonable for a genuine reseller (someone whose circumstances changed and can no longer attend, so wants to recover at least some of the cost.) That would be your test, if shows are sold out at auction-close, but resold tickets are selling for less than the auction price, the system works.
Won't happen. However much they whine about it, marketers like the artificial urgency, the hype of "sold out" shows and ten-times-over-cost scalping, it is what allows them to charge so much in the first place.
Science is all about firing a drunk pig out of a cannon just to see what happens.
I agree completely. And Dutch auctions would be perfect for this. Keeps the price consistent across the board, so early purchases don't get cheap tickets while late comers (10 minutes later) pay through the nose.
chances are that they'd have sold out in 30 seconds if their website didn't die under the load.
Apple's servers also died under the load, just more gracefully (sort of) - the process worked for some people, for others like myself we just saw authentication errors the whole time. In reality I saw the "sold out" page way closer to 20 seconds after I saw the buy button than two minutes. The two minute figure is more like how long it took the stragglers to complete an order that was started in the first two seconds.
Comparing who sold out faster though when you are talking anything under a few minutes seems pretty pointless to me though. In the end obviously both are extremely popular events and you basically need to have some luck to get a ticket because no server can realistically handle the volume of interest they have.
I will point out that WWDC developers don't get free hardware to offset the cost though so it seems like you have to really be in it for the info alone...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I, for one, look forward to next years's "richest developers in America" convention,
Actually I would prefer that, not because I am rich but because it would really be the developers who were serious about Apple's development platforms and could justify a high cost of attending.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
No seriously?
At the prices Apple is asking, let alone the ebay sellers?
I know some of these conferences will give you free technology - many intel ones hand out CPU's in the past or motherboards and CPU's, HP ones have handed out some decent hardware.
Are these people likely to get an ipad 5 or iphone 6 or even something current gen? The prices are madness. I think Google have given out a free Nexus before too.
Who do I contact to invest in your Ticket Futures market?
Just another troll. Someone saw the success that APK has had and decided to get into the annoyance game.
FTFY :P
Well, it's better than clicking a story and doing nothing but feed the trolls
no it's not
I suggest you take your own advice and "get a life dude"
hahahaha now THAT is why i like feeding trolls :)
this bullshit will always happen (unless slashcrap changes their web application to stop it, but why would they?)
so if you can't beat em, join em
he probably just likes feeding trolls...
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If the talks would be about Darwin distros and OSX emulation layers.
Would that be such a bad thing? People go to these conferences because there's a real benefit in the tutorials and so on that are there. The cost is intended to reflect this, but apparently it failed: the people attending believe they get a lot more value from it than the cost of attending. The only problem with this approach is that it skews the market in favour of established companies, and Apple wants to encourage new developers. This could be fixed by reserving, say, 10% of the tickets for prizes for some competitions along the lines of best independent developer in the App Store, best new app, and so on.
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Wow proof read fail on my part.
you forgot the python troll string reversal function... that has a bug in it
not to mention things like ROFL and LOL sprinkled all over the place amongst various other useless ditties
and length... your message is just WAAAAAAAAAAAY too short :)
You have neve sold anything in the App store...
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