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Pearson Vue Now On Day 5 of Massive Outage

Reader Patrick In Chicago is one of a few readers to write with this unpleasant news: "Computer-based testing provider Pearson Vue is now in day 5 of a global outage, preventing test-takers worldwide from sitting for exams. I was personally turned away from a Cisco exam on Wednesday morning because Pearson was unable to deliver. Countless people have posted to Pearson Vue's Facebook page detailing various states of panic. There are people who have certifications expiring. Others are unable to sit their medical board exams. Still others are unable to sit exams that they are required to pass in order to work — Pearson Vue's incompetence has actually prevented people from going out and making a paycheck." This reminds me of a friend of mine who had to wait half a year to re-take his bar exam, because of a software glitch on the part of ExamSoft's software.

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  1. UK Driving License by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Pearson Vue also administer the theory component of the UK driving test.

    It's not mentioned in TFA, does anybody know if there were affected also?

    1. Re:UK Driving License by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yup, there's a bug in there which tells everyone taking the test to drive on the wrong side of the road!

    2. Re:UK Driving License by edumacator · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wait...which is the wrong side?

    3. Re:UK Driving License by David_W · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The side that isn't right, clearly.

    4. Re:UK Driving License by edumacator · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course. Your right.

    5. Re:UK Driving License by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Pearson Vue also administer the theory component of the UK driving test."

      Wait... What???

      How much "theory" do you need to know in order to drive in the UK? Do you have to explain how Ackerman Steering works, or what?

    6. Re:UK Driving License by albacrankie · · Score: 2

      There's usually a question about unladen swallows too.

    7. Re:UK Driving License by Medievalist · · Score: 4, Funny

      In the USA, we have a driving test, which includes both driving with an observer and answering written questions. No parts of this test are considered to be in any way theoretical, which is why the previous poster was baffled by the reference to a "theory" test.

      If you really want to get them confused, tell them you left your lorry on the hard standing with the bonnet up to fool the peelers whilst you spent a penny in the loo.

  2. Aye, The Rub! by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... and therein lies the issue with essential certification being tied in to a proprietary, privately owned-and-managed system.

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    1. Re:Aye, The Rub! by Patrick+In+Chicago · · Score: 2

      Well... I haven't heard of a 5+ day Prometric outage, for one.

  3. Re:Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Resu by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry to break the news, but MCAT, GRE and SAT are run by private firms. They're 'non profits' but they are not government entities.

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  4. Re:Panic? Frustration? Maybe... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    I tried to look at their Facebook page but the entire Facebook site appears to be down. If Slashdot managed to trash Facebook, you can bet your toasted hard drives that there will be outrage, panic and Congressional Blue Ribbon committees.

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  5. Not to sound overly harsh by RobbieCrash · · Score: 2

    But if your job is dependent on you having a certification, would you really leave it to the last 3 days of your certs validity to do the test? What if you fail, most certs have a minimum retry period of a week or so, don't they? Isn't this just a semi-inconvenient thing rather than the economy crushing madness the summary makes it out to be?

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    1. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by galimore · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you're mixing two different things.

      1) Some people have certifications expiring.

      In many cases, if you certify a higher level certification, it will renew your older lower ranked certificate. But if your certification expires, you won't be able to take the higher level certification because that lower level certification is required to take the higher level.

      So yes, in this case, people are being somewhat lazy, and frankly most companies would work with you on this.

      2) Some people need a certification to be able to work.

      This might mean that some people are unable to start working (i.e. take a job with a company) until they pass their certification.

      This is a different issue altogether, and has nothing to do with laziness on the part of the test taker.

    2. Re:Not to sound overly harsh by Canazza · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but good luck getting any free stuff out of Microsoft with a 15 year old MSCE certificate. That's the reason everyone takes the tests right? To get free software?

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  6. I graded standardized math exams by shadowofwind · · Score: 4, Interesting

    for a few weeks about ten years ago. I'm about 90% sure it was for Pearson. Some of the answers in the key weren't even right. When I tried to politely point this out I was punished for insubordination.

  7. Re:Funny by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I took my CCNA exam there last year. Halfway through, one of the simulations completely froze... absolutely nothing would respond other than the timer continuing to count down. I had the woman running the exam come in and check it out, she agreed that it wasn't supposed to completely freeze up. They refused to let me refund or reschedule the exam.

  8. Re:Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Resu by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

    It's called a sharpener.

  9. Re:Funny by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    A provider of network certification exams experiencing a service outage.

    Though, I have to ask, what exactly is the issue here? When I took a Cisco exam, everything seemed local, can't they simply say "thanks for taking the exam, we'll email/mail/call you with the results when they become available"?

    In a sense, some of the same perverse incentives that drive fiascos like the EA/SimCity server-meltdown launch are probably at work with a testing company:

    The greater the local storage of exams and answer keys, the easier it would be for them to leak, and the easier it would be for local employees/franchised locations to provide off-the-book 'services', for their own personal gain. The more you tie to HQ(eg. certainly don't have scoring capabilities onsite, ideally have only thin clients that dial in to HQ) the more control you have. Of course, this means going from a fairly robust system(all the tests Pearson administers would amount to what? a few tens of gigabytes, if there is any multimedia component, with relatively infrequent changes? You could probably keep the testing centers in step with rsync over dialup...) to a brittle one; but that never seems to stop anybody...

  10. Re:No competition in this industry by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are mutliple testing centers, but they are all exclusive. Prometric offers The Open Group testing, so you can still take a test and get TOGAF certified if you want, but Cisco is apparently available exclusively on Vue, and most seem to be that way, where only one tester delivers any single test, but there are multiple options for testing. No idea how it got to that without illegal collusion, but that's what we have now.

  11. Re:Reminds you of ExamSoft? by postbigbang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Could be deeper than your trolling presumes. Consider that this outage comes after some of their exams were found to be scoring incorrectly. Perhaps what you're seeing is an actual (don't hold your breath) audit going on, as tests are vetted..... who knows, perhaps for the first time.

    Would it change outcomes? We may never know. Too bad that they're not on the front line, trying to explain the outage after the first few hours. Perhaps there is chaos in the backroom, perhaps someone dug up their data lines with a trencher, but we just don't know. Perhaps a PR firm might be useful at this point, but when you're a cash cow, you need no PR. Right?

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  12. Posting anonymous since there was a NDA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I mean it's long been expired but I still don't want any shit.

    I worked for Pearson several years ago. I had a small start-up company that specialized in courseware systems. The deal with Pearson was small, only around 500k to build a custom courseware system. Our team worked our hearts out desperately trying to get this product to market. We only took a small payment up-front and the rest was due on completion.

    When the product was finished Pearson threw their team of lawyers at us when we tried to get the rest of what was due. They completely fucked us over, so badly that the company disbanded and all of us had to find new jobs without pay. I would bet that this is a similar situation.

  13. Re:qualitay by edumacator · · Score: 3, Funny

    If only the people who wrote the test could have taken a test to prove their competence.

  14. Re:Funny by Bremic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is actually very common for Pearson Vue, and I have never heard of them allowing someone to take the exam again without having to pay full price. It happens so often I wonder if it's part of the revenue stream.
    Basically.. "People need certification for work or they wont earn their income, so if we screw them they have no choice but to pay again to get it complete. If this happens to 2% of people, we get an instant revenue bump from those people paying twice."
    It's fraud, but no one seems to want to do anything about it.

  15. Re:Funny by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Informative

    She can't refund you there, because you didn't pay her. You paid Vue, so you must go to them for the refund. Silly, I know, but that's how it works. She should have gotten out her Vue test center 800 number and called support, and if Vue support can't fix it remotely, then you get your money back.

    I used to work at a test center (also a VAR and training center).

  16. Mission critical infrastructure by shuz · · Score: 5, Informative

    In my particular line of work a 4-5+ hour outage would make most national media news. Careful planning goes not into daily run but also what to do in the event of a major outage and backup plans including dr failover. If Pearson is this important and has far reaching and potential legal obligations to provide testing services, I would expect them to have plans to recover from anything short of a well distributed and targeted nuclear attack. That is the mindset of mission critical enterprise IT. I can't pass judgement of Pearson's infrastructure because I don't work there and we certainly don't have all the facts but this likely will be a huge wake up call to their Management. It should also be a huge opportunity for an outside IT contracting company to do an audit of their plans.

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    1. Re:Mission critical infrastructure by Patrick+In+Chicago · · Score: 2

      That's really the core of the problem. They claim that they're fully up, just at diminished capacity. Some people are managing to squeeze exams in here and there. Some people are managing to schedule or reschedule. But many people are being turned away from testing centers. Many people can't reschedule anything. Calls to customer service result in "Sorry, we can't get into the system either."

    2. Re:Mission critical infrastructure by wintermute000 · · Score: 2

      My money is on a major backend upgrade gone foobar and somehow foobarring the rollback (if they even considered rollbacki?!?!?!). Either that or their prod is completely hosed somehow (fire etc.) and they've had to switch on their never properly tested, not properly built or scoped DR that was just put in to tick some audit by a non IT person putting a check next to a box.

      A break-fix does not take 5 days to resolve, not even a large SAN.

      I've seen some rank amateurish behaviour by enterprises with multi million dollar turnovers so its no surprise for a monopolist vendor like Pearson to sit there and watch the money roll in. Unless there is some kind of legal/contractual or PR ramification from downtime mgt just don't get it until it happens.

    3. Re:Mission critical infrastructure by Thyamine · · Score: 2

      I have seen several large organizations that think or try to plan for HA, but never test it. And in some cases there is a very nebulous 'well, we fail over' type of plan. Nothing detailed, and nothing specific. I've only had one customer who actually went through the process of a complete restore/DR test. Most seem to hope that it just won't be needed.

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  17. Re:Washington Post article by Patrick+In+Chicago · · Score: 2

    I'm sorry, but a 5 hour delay is NOT "up, but at a reduced capacity" at they claim. Failing to deliver an EIGHT HOUR exam for 5 hours is an outage. You show up at 7AM and the exam can't be run until noon? So you're taking an exam until 8PM? Ridiculous. People all over the globe are unable to schedule or reschedule exams. They are showing up at testing centers only to be turned away because the center can't deliver the exam - Pearson's servers are unreachable. Calls to customer service offer no assistance other than "We can't log in, try again tomorrow."

  18. Used to Deal With Them as Consultant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to work with a few companies that work with Pearson, so we often had to integrate with their systems, consume their data, talk to their people, etc.

    I laugh at this article because it is hardly surprising. A huge chunk of their services are built on some of the worst Indian programmer spaghetti crap in Java you have ever seen. At one point, one of the major testing companies I was working with had to build web services to exchange some data with them. They couldn't figure out simple things like using SSL, encoding in UTF-8, and not making things completely proprietary for no reason. They used to put up huge SOAP feeds where you'd get almost a meg of data and really the only useful value anyone would need would be 1 true/false. I've seen worse, but just barely.

    Even more scary is how they treat personally identifiable information (PII). Avoiding correlating PII with results and tests is huge in that industry, and they have no clue. I've never seen a company staffed with so many inept people. They are only out for your cash and don't care about anything else. That's why so many of their tests and labs also look straight out of 1994 still.

    This company is a joke. As a customer, I also was billed before several times when canceling the exam. Their cancelation system went down in part, but it was still registered as cancelled, but sent out no email. They claimed since I didn't have the email, no money back. So I asked that because their system broke, I have to pay? Yes. Unbelievable. Prometric isn't much better so they can get away with this kind of shady stuff.

    I for one hope they burn, or at least draw attention from consumer rights organizations.

  19. Re:Aye :-) by KGIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps you missed the "unable to agree" in my comment? I didn't agree, I was civil. There is a difference. I opted to be civil as it was the more noble road and I felt like being idealistic. I am not sure but I think the world would be in better shape if more people did that.

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  20. Re:Privatization of Education Yields Inferior Resu by pipatron · · Score: 2

    Yeah, it's not the privatization that's an issue, it's the profit part. You know, the incentive that according to the great invisible hand in the sky should improve quality and decrease overhead..

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  21. Re:Funny by Vlado · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is partially local and partially remote.

    Local admin station downloads the test before you take it and serves it to the test stations where you take it. This prevents connectivity issues from affecting you when you're already taking the exam. In such scenario you could complete exam, be scored however your results wouldn't be submitted to the VUE servers until connectivity is restored.

    However if the admin station is unable to download the exams in the first place, then you cannot even start the exam.