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Google Releases Glass Kernel Source Code

hypnosec writes "Google has released the kernel source code of Google Glass publicly just a couple of days after the wearable gadget was rooted by Jay Freeman. Releasing the source code, Google has noted that the location is just temporary and it would be moving to a permanent location soon saying: 'This is unlikely to be the permanent home for the kernel source, it should be pushed into git next to all other android kernel source releases relatively soon.'"

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  1. question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    does it have kernel support for the HOSTS file?

  2. Re:Major source of privacy loss by binarylarry · · Score: 3, Informative

    Protip: When you leave your Mom's basement and go out into the world, you "lose privacy" and so does everyone else.

    If you don't want Google Glass down in your dungeon lair, don't let people bring it in.

    Protip 2: Smartphones are everywhere and have both video and audio recording devices built in, which can be secretly activated by the user! ZOMG!

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  3. Re:Major source of privacy loss by knarf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    OMG Google rant rant rant ...

    High UID: check
    Ranting against Google: check
    Rooting for Microsoft: check

    Now why did that last sentence not surprise me? At least with Microsoft you would have *what*?

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  4. It was rooted? by frootcakeuk · · Score: 2

    I couldn't really care less about the source being released. BUT, where's the article about it being rooted? Am I the only one that missed this?

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  5. Re:Major source of privacy loss by TrekkieGod · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This isn't even only limited to YOU, personally, but everyone around you. Google Glasses will see everything you do and they will run facial recognition on EVERYBODY AROUND YOU. Not only will YOU lose privacy but EVERYONE ELSE TOO.

    There is no expectation of privacy in public spaces and private locations are free to ban video and photography just like they've always been, if they don't want it. I don't see what the big deal is.

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  6. Re:Major source of privacy loss by stinkywob · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in Europe. Here privacy doesn't end when you step outside. Hence the many problems Google is having in Germany and other EU countries.

  7. Re:Major source of privacy loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think you forgot two.

    First post from a new account: check
    First post on a thread: check

    If it smells like a shill and it posts like a shill then I'm betting it's a shill.

  8. Re:So what? by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2

    Ah, then I'll just install a camera in your bathroom...

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  9. Other uses by madmaxdallas · · Score: 2

    While out in public it is a intrusion of privacy, or almost anywhere really but I can see many practical uses for this in work environments. For example people who do product transport being able to read bar codes and know where to stock at or place in proper bin etc... One of thousands of practical applications.

  10. Re:Major source of privacy loss by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    Our whole PLANET (not only the nation) will be in danger.

    There are issues with privacy from Google Glass, but you're going a little far. Even in the worst imaginable case, that we all end up living in a panopticon when we go outside, the PLANET is not going to be destroyed.

    Re-adjust, recalibrate yourself to reality so people take you seriously again.

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  11. Re:Major source of privacy loss by pittaxx · · Score: 2

    Nah, the late MS pro-privacy campaign is more of a PR stunt (aka "we are doing something different than google"). Their record is more or less on par with Google (they have Bing that is just as information hungry).

    The only reason we didn't see many headlines about that is because MS don't really do much innovation these days and no one cares.

  12. It's just Linux kernel and driver source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I downloaded it and it's mostly just a Linux kernel source tarball, complete with HOWTOs and documentation from the Linux developers. And lots of hardware drivers.

    Yeah there's probably Google Glass-specific stuff in there somewhere, but you'd need to be practiced at building the Linux kernel to spot them, because Google apparently decided not to point it out for us.

    1. Re:It's just Linux kernel and driver source by hobarrera · · Score: 3, Informative

      You could diff this kernel with the mainline one and see which files are new.

  13. Re:Major source of privacy loss by bhagwad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As I live in a country where corruption is rampant and where police officials openly ask for bribes and misbehave with people, I can't wait for thousands of people to be wearing these babies all the time.

    It's about time we started watching our government publicly. This will revolutionize things, make no mistake.

  14. Re:Major source of privacy loss by JustOK · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google guns

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  15. Re:Major source of privacy loss by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no expectation of privacy in public spaces

    There is where I live. The fact that you do not know what the big deal is, is the big deal.
    Remember how they got to Big Brother? Not by going to war. They got there because people were not interested in their privacy.

    Or to quote from yet somewhere else: "So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause."

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  16. Re: Major source of privacy loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pretty sure you could do so much more covertly with glass than any phone (restrooms, up skirt, etc)

    Should I remind you why some countries, like Japan, demand all camera phones to make a shutter sound when snapping a pic?

    Because lowering your arm with a phone camera-side up and pressing the button is too damn easy, so you're about decade too late with your OMG UNDERSKIRT VOYEURS scare.

    Now imagine nonchalantly doing the same with Google Glass.

    PS: "OMG taking photos by winking" + "OMG covert upskirt photos" make a nice combination. Covertly peek under her skirt and wink! Alternatively, smoothly put your Glass under her skirt and say aloud "OK, Glass, take a picture!"

  17. Re:How is it different than GoPro? by scsirob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your GoPro will record your surrounding, and you have the right to do that. Google Glass will go a bit further and augment your view with information about anything and anyone around you. How about labels with all faces you look at, reading "John; Age 34, last visited website milf.com", "Mindy; Age 17, just had breast cancer"..

    I do not need that kind of information, and I object to living in a society where others would see labels on me and my family with 'mined' information.

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  18. Re:Major source of privacy loss by Nerdfest · · Score: 2

    I find it strange that there wasn't a huge outcry when Microsoft release the Kinect, a device that always has a camera on inside your house. Personally, I trust Microsoft a lot less than I trust Google.

  19. Could someone with privacy concerns please respond by mark-t · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In what way is Google Glass significantly more threatening with regards to privacy than the situation of ubiquitous camera embedded in cell phones situation that we already have today, where probably 7 out of every 10 people you see are carrying something they could use to take pictures or video at any time anyways?

    Secondly, actively *highly* secret recording devices, like spy cameras and the like, which can be embedded in glasses or other very inconspicuous places, far less noticeable than Glass, have been available for quite some time. In what way does Google Glass pose a greater threat to privacy than devices like these? Why is there not a similar interest in banning such devices, which anyone is perfectly permitted to buy?

    I'm not saying that critics who are concerned about privacy are wrong because of the above points, but I'm personally very interested in how critics of Glass would address those issues

    Thanks in advance.

  20. Re:Could someone with privacy concerns please resp by EmagGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "In what way does Google Glass pose a greater threat to privacy than devices like these?"

    Ubiquity, penetration, and connectivity.

  21. Re:Major source of privacy loss by Nihilanth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really? The surveillance cameras in the UK beg to differ. Obviously there has to be a balance between freedom and privacy, we're just going to figure it out as we go, as we always have.

  22. Re:Major source of privacy loss by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    CCTVs in UK are owned by local authorities. They can do pretty much what they want with the cameras. You, OTOH, as an individual, cannot.

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  23. Re:Major source of privacy loss by bhagwad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Two things:

    1. Instant video streaming to my private youtube channel will preserve everything. So destroying my glasses will just make things worse for them.

    2. It's far easier for other people to activate recording via google glass without drawing attention to themselves. The police can pick out people who are recording with cell phone cameras. Not with this.

  24. Re:Major source of privacy loss by TrekkieGod · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is no expectation of privacy in public spaces

    There is where I live. The fact that you do not know what the big deal is, is the big deal. Remember how they got to Big Brother? Not by going to war. They got there because people were not interested in their privacy.

    Or to quote from yet somewhere else: "So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause."

    So I guess you don't live in the United States. I am really concerned about protecting these rights, which you seem to want to constrict.

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  25. Re:Major source of privacy loss by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow, how to tell when people are ignorant:

    They get all their ideas about government from novels.
    Or from high-quality Hollywood entertainment.

    Various Greek states had democracy that wasn't forced on them (unlike, say, Germany), and wasn't in the imagination of the maker of popular kids movies. Why don't you look at how they lost it, and what problems they had? You'll end up much wiser.

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  26. Re:Major source of privacy loss by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 2

    I find it strange that there wasn't a huge outcry when Microsoft release the Kinect, a device that always has a camera on inside your house. Personally, I trust Microsoft a lot less than I trust Google.

    The Kinect is only affecting the homes of people who choose to install the things. Glass is designed to be worn on the go. That's probably why Glass is seen as being more controversial and invasive.

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  27. Re:Could someone with privacy concerns please resp by PhamNguyen · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If Google glass were to become popular, it would combine four elements: pervasiveness, non knowing when you are being recorded, the appearance of a legitimate motive for recording people, and connectivity.

    With smartphones it is usually clear when someone is recording someone else because of the physical location of the camera. It is not common or socially acceptable to record a person that you are interacting with. And glass has the potential to be recording all the time while it is very inconvenient to walk around recording everything with your cellphone.

    A person who wears a spycam all the time and is found out will generally be shunned. Google glass has the appearance of legitimacy.

    Video cameras by the government or private companies are governed by some set of regulations that mean they can't just post something you said to facebook or youtube.

    The end result of Google glass is that now you have a situation where, so long as you are interacting with a person wearing Google glass, you may be being recorded. This will end up being very tiresome as people have to "watch what they say" all the time. The change is not a qualitative change: whenever people interact with others, in private or public, what they say or do may become known in another context. It is a quantitative change: now there is only one context: your boss can hear the dirty joke you tell at a party. Your friends and coworkers can hear the awkward one liner you use on a girl at a bar. Every political statement you make must be vetted for "racism", "sexism", "homophobia" and "anti-semitism", or you will be thrown out of university.

    Btw I'm not saying they should be banned, I'm just explaining why I think Google glass does raise novel concerns about privacy.

  28. Re:Major source of privacy loss by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find it strange that there wasn't a huge outcry when Microsoft release the Kinect, a device that always has a camera on inside your house. Personally, I trust Microsoft a lot less than I trust Google.

    You don't see the difference between a stationary recording device that people choose to place in their own homes versus a mobile device others wear that can record you anywhere without your consent?

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  29. Re:Major source of privacy loss by Nerdfest · · Score: 2

    I don't see why there's a huge panic over it when wearable recording devices have been on the market for at least 10 years, including I believe one from Microsoft quite a while ago. I seem to remember the discussion at the time being amazement that someone would sacrifice their own privacy, not that of others. As others are stating here again and again, people have been able to, and have actually been recording you without your consent for decades.

  30. Re:Major source of privacy loss by Cinder6 · · Score: 2

    Speaking for myself, if I had to choose between government surveillance and private surveillance (thinking Google, Facebook), I'd choose the private, even if unregulated. The government is going to try to control me, while Google is going to try to sell me stuff.

    Granted, I don't want either situation.

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  31. Re:Major source of privacy loss by node+3 · · Score: 2

    I think what you mean is, "if it disagrees with me, it's a shill post".

    Ironic that an AC would complain about someone else's lack of established posting history...

  32. Re:Major source of privacy loss by Xest · · Score: 2

    "high-quality Hollywood entertainment."

    Ho-ho-ho.

    Good one.

  33. Re:Major source of privacy loss by RivenAleem · · Score: 2

    AC has been posting here for YEARS.