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Pirates of the Caribbean: the Pirate Bay Moves To Island of Sint Maarten

New submitter coolnumbr12 writes "For the second time in a week, The Pirate Bay has found a new home for its popular torrent website. A complaint issued Tuesday by Swedish prosecutors threated the Icelandic domain, forcing the file-sharing pirates to take harbor in the Caribbean island of Sint Maarten with a new .sx domain name. 'Control of the island, which has just 78,000 residents, is split between France and the Netherlands. Around 41,000 live on the Dutch side and 37,000 on the French. ... Even if the court grants the prosecutor’s request it remains to be seen how effective any seizures will be. Time and again the BitTorrent site has responded by relocating to new domains.'"

108 comments

  1. Whats really amazing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is they hop around the world with almost no downtime at all.
    Even the best sites that we PAY for can barely manage to do simple upgrades and changes and say the same..

    1. Re:Whats really amazing. by scottbomb · · Score: 1

      True this. Wish I had some mod points right now, AC or not.

    2. Re:Whats really amazing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      lots of practice, and the systems are designed to move.

    3. Re:Whats really amazing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given TPB's ongoing issues, there are a couple of ways for a sysadmin in their position to act to minimize the downtime.

      (1) Have at least one reserve site prepped at all times. I.e. when they're on site A, don't wait for it to be shut down -- immediately set up site B. Leave it almost complete but disabled so it doesn't attract attention. When A is shut down, enable B and immediately set up site C. Extra points for having more than one site in reserve. I'm sure they're doing this. It's the only sane way to manage this kind of a transition.

      (2) Utilize hosting providers with fully automated management tools. These let you automatically provision a standard VM without human intervention on the provider's side. Just pay and go.

    4. Re:Whats really amazing. by Nyder · · Score: 5, Informative

      Is they hop around the world with almost no downtime at all.
      Even the best sites that we PAY for can barely manage to do simple upgrades and changes and say the same..

      The only thing that moved, is where it's domain name is at. the servers are in the "cloud" they don't need to move, and if they did, they can do it no problem. But all this is just about domain name changes.

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    5. Re:Whats really amazing. by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Even the best sites that we PAY for can barely manage to do simple upgrades and changes and say the same..

      That's because the biggest threat to any company has never been natural disaster, but government intervention. You can protect against everything but a corrupt government with a desire to seize all of your infrastructure. It started with Steve Jackson Games; It continues to this day. Every day, dozens of corporations are rendered extinct due to seizures by the government... and lacking the ability to continue to conduct business, they lack income, and thus there is no legal challenge mounted. The only businesses that can survive, are those who go multinational, hide their money in secret accounts, and bury themselves in a complex and dense legal framework that makes easy elimination by the government difficult.

      All of that costs a lot of money. The pirate bay, on the other hand, doesn't have to worry about that. They don't have to pretend to be "legit", so the operating costs are quite low, and redundancy quite easy. And as they're showing... once you pass a threshold, you can become a criminal organization that the government can't touch, at least as long as your assets are entirely digital and distributed across many jurisdictions.

      It is a model I expect more small businesses, legitimate and otherwise, to do more often. It's the only reasonable reaction to a corrupted government... let alone over a hundred of them, all corrupted to varying degrees.

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    6. Re:Whats really amazing. by rvw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is a model I expect more small businesses, legitimate and otherwise, to do more often. It's the only reasonable reaction to a corrupted government... let alone over a hundred of them, all corrupted to varying degrees.

      Corruption or coercion? Many countries simply can't afford to ignore the "wishes" of the US (or China or Russia).

    7. Re:Whats really amazing. by dintech · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Here in the UK the main domain has been blocked by the major ISPs several months ago. Immediately there were no end of proxy alternative domains by which to get access to the same content, no one particular domain really matters at all. I think it's cute that they keep going after the main domain. It keeps them distracted while the main event is going on elsewhere.

    8. Re:Whats really amazing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "I can't afford to represent my constituents." However your guy phrases that, he's strayed.

    9. Re:Whats really amazing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can protect against everything but a corrupt government with a desire to seize all of your infrastructure.

      Don't forget that intervention by zealous government agents has been a prime threat to entire industries, such as providers of unsolicited email advertisements and PC online protection. Slashdot readers should be outraged.

    10. Re:Whats really amazing. by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      Many of those islands in that region are on a satellite link. Cuba, for instance, a much larger and more heavily populated island, only got a physical landline link (to Venezuela) last year, in late 2012. Prior to that they had three satellite links. The island of Grenada, for example, 400 miles south also uses a satellite link for internet access.

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    11. Re:Whats really amazing. by KingBenny · · Score: 1

      motivation goes a long way, something most employers get an idea of but can't really grasp, only people doing what they really want to do will do it to the best of their abilities imo, and crappy jobs in need of personnel will attract people who need the money and would lie to get it ofcourse, but a crappy job is a crappy job while a worldwidde movement as it became doesn't really need to offer the best paid positions in the world it will attract creative thinkers since
      just like the opposition has made this personnal and it hasn't been about copyright but about proving themselves right for a long, long time now
      this attracts creative minds who feel the opposition is bent on killing just that and uses paper law to slap it
      i'm not taking sides ofcourse, or maybe just a little ... or maybe a whole lot
      the intent of law is not to force , right the intent of police is to protect, right
      well, some things need some serious re-checking, as time goes this has one nice side effect, the trolls are overdoing it and gradually becoming un-popular
      politics is in need of money, so lobbies have power but public opinion is just as important
      so once the trolls crossed the actual line where the media-campaigns of the 'industry' to make downloadmom look like a terrile maffia gangster, playing on little feelings of guild that are planted in everyone from birth on (just a societal control system i suppose) once they get over that, and the impulses lose effect because of over-use there should be a lash-back
      i'm kinda looking forward to it, i get the feeling no one likes them already but most people, the sheeple don't care enough
      until they are the victim
      so, dear trolls, why dont you ruin some more lives, in the end it will all serve the greater good
      and also , this thing called namecoins might come in handy for the pirates of the caribean even if i dont really know how it would actually work it sounds great :))

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  2. are they really moveing or it is some kind of quic by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    are they really moving or it is some kind of quick DNS thing?

  3. A Whole Social Movement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That revolves around stealing other people's stuff.

    1. Re:A Whole Social Movement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, who do they think they are... A goverment or some company? Why the nerve! Filthy pirates!

      -Give me a gun and I can rob a bank, give me a bank and I can rob the world.

    2. Re:A Whole Social Movement by Fluffeh · · Score: 1

      Yeah, who do they think they are... A goverment or some company? Why the nerve! Filthy pirates!

      -Give me a gun and I can rob a bank, give me a bank and I can rob the world.

      Give you a position of power and you can rob anything and anyone you want for the most part...

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    3. Re:A Whole Social Movement by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That revolves around stealing other people's stuff.

      Governments?

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    4. Re:A Whole Social Movement by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Give me control of a planet's oxygen supply, and I won't care who runs the banks.

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    5. Re:A Whole Social Movement by shentino · · Score: 1

      The only difference between governments and the mafia is that the government just has bigger guns.

      And this isn't even sarcasm. In the earlier days of history, Right of Conquest was a legally recoginzed principle of international law.

    6. Re:A Whole Social Movement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that and the fact that you can legally challenge the government, vote for your representatives, and/or run for public office yourself.

      With a mafia you simply have violent men telling you what to do. With government you at least have the opportunity to be one of those men.

    7. Re:A Whole Social Movement by gratuitous_arp · · Score: 1

      Give me control of a planet's oxygen supply, and I won't care who runs the banks.

      Give me control of the Spice and I'll control the universe.

    8. Re:A Whole Social Movement by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      The only difference between governments and the mafia is that the government just has bigger guns.

      No, the difference is that governments are what stops the mafia from being just another corporation with bigger guns.

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    9. Re:A Whole Social Movement by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      Give me control of the Spice and I'll control the universe.

      Harrumph. I believe that _my_ line.

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    10. Re: A Whole Social Movement by malchus842 · · Score: 1

      With government, as with the mafia, you have to be a "made man" to have any power. Otherwise, you are just a soldier working to gain power for others....

    11. Re:A Whole Social Movement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you'll be able to find other differences too, if you look at most modern governments. Such as democracy, separation of powers, and a public justice system. I much prefer to be ruled by a democratic government than by a corporation or the mob (which I don't think would be distinguishable by the time they have enough power to become a government). The power structure of the mob (or corporations) if interpreted in the context of a system of government resembles something like fascism.

    12. Re:A Whole Social Movement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wow, that's a lot of uninsightful moderation. The only thing that allows you to own something in the first place is the existence of laws and something that can enforce them, i.e. a government. Laws set up rules for what things can be owned, and what it means to own them (e.g. how one can come to own something and how one can lose them). Without that, you don't have property, you only have stuff that somebody stronger hasn't arbitrarily chosen to take yet.

    13. Re:A Whole Social Movement by tqk · · Score: 1

      ... that revolves around copying, distributing and publicizing for free other people's stuff.

      FTFY.

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    14. Re:A Whole Social Movement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes those were the times. Even the pirates got romantic titles like privateers see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_marque

      This is if it suits government, will use "any means".

  4. Not a bittorrent site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a search engine to torrent sites.

    It's like twice removed from the actual copyright infringement. But on the other hand, it *is* famous and if that isn't a good enough reason to shift the infringement twice removed, then what is.

    1. Re:Not a bittorrent site by cffrost · · Score: 1

      It's a search engine to torrent sites.

      It's not, you're describing a torrent meta-search site (e.g., Torrentz). Sites like Torrentz index sites like TPB and KAT.

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      "Arguments from authority are worthless." —Carl Sagan
  5. Re:are they really moveing or it is some kind of q by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's more of a KLM thing, here are the pirates landing at St. Maarten...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCIJ0F62og4

  6. Exactly what Namecoin was designed for... by Thantik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I really kinda hoped they'd set up a .bit domain. I know, I know -- a lot of people are thinking "oh the bitcoin hype", but Namecoin is basically calculated off of bitcoin "for free", and it's meant to be a censorship-free domain name system. ThePirateBay needs to setup thepiratebay.bit and utilize namecoin as a censorship-free domain registration option.

    1. Re:Exactly what Namecoin was designed for... by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Insightful

      thepiratebay.onion.

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      These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

    2. Re:Exactly what Namecoin was designed for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Namecoin is a great idea but lately it seems as if no one is working on it anymore.

    3. Re:Exactly what Namecoin was designed for... by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      this is the logical next step, to be honest i am surprised thatt hey have not simply moved to a onions site and have proxy site for their normal domain sort of like onion.to is. the only problem is that it is hard for you average user to navigate between and discover tor hidden service pages. Tor really needs a distributed dns services. But this may lead to a situation where it would be easy to find the sites real ip addresses; if someone with more in depth knowledge of the tor routing protocols and hidden-service configuration would be so good as to enlighten us i would be most appreciative.

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    4. Re:Exactly what Namecoin was designed for... by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      Interesting idea. How come this is the first time I've heard about it on /.?

    5. Re:Exactly what Namecoin was designed for... by raxx7 · · Score: 1

      They already did, it's http://jntlesnev5o7zysa.onion/
      You can get though a tor2web proxy at https://jntlesnev5o7zysa.tor2web.org/

  7. tpb in spaaace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    given all the wealthy libertarians who rely on this service

    how much would it cost to launch an array of microsatellites in non-geosynchronous orbits. that would accept updates from
    a signed source of sufficient power, then stream the whole list to an array of ground stations as they sped past

    each costing no more than 1k euros, that would announce themselves periodically on a ipv6 multicast channel

    i'm almost half serious

    1. Re:tpb in spaaace by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why bother? We already have pirate bay proxies: http://proxybay.info/

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  8. pirate ship by aahpandasrun · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like to imagine that the Pirate Bay servers are located on a pirate ship that pulls up anchor and sets sail to another part of the world when they run into legal trouble.

    1. Re:pirate ship by moxfactor · · Score: 2

      Would the Exxon Valdez suffice? (and Dennis Hopper at the helm of course)

    2. Re:pirate ship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That'd be quite a feat.

      Dennis Hopper died a few years ago.

  9. Re:finally on-topic! by dadelbunts · · Score: 0

    its so tame nowadays :(

  10. "Seizures" by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

    . Even if the court grants the prosecutorâ(TM)s request it remains to be seen how effective any seizures will be.

    Ineffectual as always. All they're "seizing" is a forwarding address. It's the digital equivalent of seizing an empty PO box. You just open up a new one and continue on your merry.

    It's already been proven that the internet routes around censorship... and it does so through peer communication. People who pirate know other people who pirate... and the seven shades of separation and all that ensures that a new address would propagate through social networks in days.

    So, how do I put this gently...

    Dear Government, You're fucked, now fuck off. Sincerely, The Internet.

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    1. Re:"Seizures" by Fluffeh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's the digital equivalent of seizing an empty PO box.

      What's amusing is that it takes them months of meetings, requests, follow-ups, investigation, more meetings, some additional requests and some more meetings - all costing thousands and thousands and some more thousands.

      TPB on the other hand fills in a few little details in a webform for the most part.

      Dear Government, You're fucked, now fuck off. Sincerely, The Internet.

      I would change that ever so slightly. Dead Big Business, the government is fucked here, stop bothering them already will you? At the end of the day, the governments want happy, content people who have all the access to entertainment they want - after all it makes them more complacent.

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    2. Re:"Seizures" by OhANameWhatName · · Score: 1

      the governments want happy, content people who have all the access to entertainment they want - after all it makes them more complacent

      I don't care how complacent the government is, I still don't give a shit.

    3. Re:"Seizures" by Fluffeh · · Score: 1

      No no, the government wants YOU complacent - then they can pretty much do whatever THEY want and you won't whine and complain or worst of all get in their way...

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    4. Re:"Seizures" by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dear Government, You're fucked, now fuck off. Sincerely, The Internet.

      Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather have a government in charge than the digital investigative geniuses at 4chan and reddit.

      Posted AC for obvious...oh, fuck it, who cares?

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    5. Re:"Seizures" by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      And what I don't understand, really: why don't they stick to the .org address?

      I always use http://thepiratebay.org/ to reach that site and that has always worked just fine. Seconds later it changes the .org to .se, or .is, or now .sx - nothing for me to worry about.

    6. Re:"Seizures" by tqk · · Score: 1

      Dead Big Business ...

      Freudian slip?

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    7. Re:"Seizures" by tqk · · Score: 1

      Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather have a government in charge than the digital investigative geniuses at 4chan and reddit.

      Okay, you're old fashioned. Government agents are armed, the politicians have been bought by deep pocketed special interests, and all are working within a justice system that's been compromised, or corrupted in many people's view. Your "investigative geniuses" at the FBI are manufacturing terrorist plots. The DHS wants to fine services that don't install wiretap backdoors, there are revolving doors between the special interests and government, and the MafiAA has convinced your justice system to prosecute civil injuries as felonies, anywhere in the world that they please. For the forseeable future, the chance of electing anyone who's not a Demopublican or Republicrat is miniscule at best.

      The most insightful thing I've seen here recently was, "Republicans ought to love Obama. He's doing everything they'd want to do."

      I'd warn you to take off the blinkers, but it's likely already too late.

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    8. Re:"Seizures" by girlintraining · · Score: 1

      Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather have a government in charge than the digital investigative geniuses at 4chan and reddit.

      The government is a vast collection of many organizations. It is not a single entity. There are some things the government does well. To say the government has become corrupt does not say that it doesn't still continue to function in many areas. My car has a defective parking brake: It still serves the function it was meant for.

      But I don't park it on hills.

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    9. Re:"Seizures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are some things the government does well.

      They overspend well, they overthink well, and they're really good at taking something simple and complicating it.

      Your turn - can you come up with 3 things that the government does well that ISN'T wasteful or morally questionable?

    10. Re:"Seizures" by girlintraining · · Score: 1

      Your turn - can you come up with 3 things that the government does well that ISN'T wasteful or morally questionable?

      9 Police.
      1 Fire.
      1 Medical.

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    11. Re:"Seizures" by Fluffeh · · Score: 1

      Dead Big Business ...

      Freudian slip?

      LMAO, apparently so :)

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    12. Re:"Seizures" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Call me old fashioned

      Ok. You're old fashioned.

      fuck it, who cares?

      About what you say? Nobody, as far as I can tell. I certainly don't. Please don't retort by asking why I then respond to your post. I'm not responding to your post, as such, but rather to the likes of you, in general. Your post was just a convenient place.

  11. So find a way to monetize it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's distribution, and if the copyright holders want money, they should just find a way to monetize it.

    e.g.
    Track movie torrents
    Record IP addresses
    Make a website showing what movies your IP address has downloaded
    Offer to clear the infringment by paying the fee.
    Make one official, agree, trusted payment site
    User pays reasonable fee (e.g. $10/DVD, $20 Bluray)
    Buy some adds, as they surf show them the movies they've been recorded downloading.
    Once you have them as customers, sell them new movies
    After a few years start pursing the big infringing ones who haven't signed up

    1. Re:So find a way to monetize it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So...let them steal it, then be sure you can make an air tight case that they did steal it?

      Let's see you apply that theory to your car and your savings.

      Don't have a car? Nothing saved?

      No wonder you want to steal other people's stuff.

  12. Here's a plan. by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    Time and again the BitTorrent site has responded by relocating to new domains.

    They should implement themselves in software, and put it on BitTorrent.

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    1. Re:Here's a plan. by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      Time and again the BitTorrent site has responded by relocating to new domains.

      They should implement themselves in software, and put it on BitTorrent.

      Something like this, perhaps?

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    2. Re:Here's a plan. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should implement themselves in software, and put it on BitTorrent.

      Perhaps they should build an interface to this software using a ubiquitous standard (such as HTML) so that any web browser can access it. Then all they'd need to do is register an easy to remember name so people could interact with this software just by typing the name on their computer keyboard device.

      OK, I've had my fun.

  13. GFWoC by QQBoss · · Score: 1

    I thought the .sx address was being blocked by the GFWoC, but apparently the DNS just hasn't propagated, because I can't access the new address from my USA based VPN, either, at this point.

      While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.piratebay.sx/

    The following error was encountered:

            Unable to determine IP address from host name for www.piratebay.sx

    The dnsserver returned:

            Server Failure: The name server was unable to process this query.
    his means that:

      The cache was not able to resolve the hostname presented in the URL.
      Check if the address is correct.

    Your cache administrator is webmaster.
    Generated Wed, 01 May 2013 05:48:57 GMT by google.com (squid/2.7.STABLE6)

    1. Re:GFWoC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just go to piratebay.org and it will automaticly reroute you through the correct dns server and watch as the address changes from piratebay.org to piratebay.sx automagically.

    2. Re:GFWoC by heypete · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's because their website isn't http://www.piratebay.sx/

      Their websit is http://thepiratebay.sx/ -- note the presence of "the" in the name.

    3. Re:GFWoC by heypete · · Score: 1

      s/websit/website

    4. Re:GFWoC by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      www.piratebay.sx didn't work for me either, but www.thepiratebay.sx was just fine.

    5. Re:GFWoC by QQBoss · · Score: 1

      D'oh! Thanks!

    6. Re:GFWoC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes they are famous now so they get to use THE.

  14. Not that amazing, built in. by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 2, Informative

    The whole architecture of the internet is built around decentralized management. If one part fails, other parts take over and people will replace the failing parts with what resources they can get available. "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." -- John Gilmore

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    1. Re:Not that amazing, built in. by JockTroll · · Score: 0

      The whole architecture of the internet is built around decentralized management. If one part fails, other parts take over and people will replace the failing parts with what resources they can get available. "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." -- John Gilmore

      Mere wishful thinking. The internet is not a sentient or living being, it doesn't "interpret" anything. It's a communication network with strong redundancy but that's all it is. It will not actively defend itself, it will not resist any attempt to turn it into a surveillance tool. It's simply a bunch of machines and lines. What it does or does not depends entirely on human will, and whose will be exercised. Right now, it's not ours.

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    2. Re:Not that amazing, built in. by fredprado · · Score: 1

      The Internet is more than the infrastructure. It is the sum of the infrastructure and all the agents acting upon it. It may as well be considered a sentient being, although a very schizophrenic one, and as such it does actively resist censorship.

    3. Re:Not that amazing, built in. by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Tne DNS system is anything but decentralized, they're quickly running out of countries that'll give them a DNS address. Yes, there will be entirely different solutions found but without DNS it won't be as easy as simply typing in thepiratebay.[whatever]

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    4. Re:Not that amazing, built in. by furbyhater · · Score: 2

      When that happens they should look into getting a .bit TLD, a potential solution to DNS cencorship: http://dot-bit.org/Main_Page

    5. Re:Not that amazing, built in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tne DNS system is anything but decentralized, they're quickly running out of countries that'll give them a DNS address. Yes, there will be entirely different solutions found but without DNS it won't be as easy as simply typing in thepiratebay.[whatever]

      No, but it'll be as easy as googling thepiratebay, which is what people do to find it already.

    6. Re:Not that amazing, built in. by tqk · · Score: 1

      "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." -- John Gilmore

      It's simply a bunch of machines and lines. What it does or does not depends entirely on human will, and whose will be exercised.

      Without us (all of us humans out here using it), that would be correct. You ignore that fact, as do the authorities. If all the torrent trackers and search engines pointing to infringing material were magically shutdown, there'd still be sneakernet. How're you going to stop Samizdat? Even the Soviets couldn't.

      Right now, it's not ours.

      Yes it is, else TPB would have ceased to exist. It would have disappeared long ago.

      What I think is amazing is that all this kafuffle about TPB is over a site that points to stuff. It hosts nothing but links. All of TPB reportedly can fit on a USB key. Yet nation after nation expends vast amounts of energy, time, and resources chasing them from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, no closer to catching or stopping them now than they were a decade ago. All because of copyright enforcement.

      Meanwhile, anything that TPB offers can be found via almost any search engine. It's a strange, strange world.

      I'd like someone to do a study showing how many domain changes TPB has churned through so far over time vs. the number of possibilities still open to them. I wonder how many centuries this game of cat and mouse (or whackamole) can go on, and we haven't even barely started widely implemented (ie.) OpenNic adoption.

      Personally, I boycott. I sure do love to watch this show though.

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    7. Re:Not that amazing, built in. by tqk · · Score: 1

      ... they're quickly running out of countries that'll give them a DNS address.

      Are they? I haven't seen that. Yeah, they lose domains fairly quickly often, but they're pretty nimble and appear well capable of staying five or so steps ahead of their pursuers.

      Yes, there will be entirely different solutions found ...

      Such as, ignoring the MafiAA controlled (DHS/ICE) DNS servers?

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    8. Re:Not that amazing, built in. by countach · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's very decentralised. Anyone, including me could give them a domain. The trouble is, it wouldn't be quite as convenient as if they can get a top level domain. Hey, maybe slashdot could give them one, then they would be piratebay.slashdot.org. It's kind of hard for the studios to get blocks on every single domain owner from giving them a sub domain.

  15. "threated" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, this is former President Bush, ol' #41, handilfying the submissionsions at the Slashed Dots...on the web of world wide.

  16. same as for wikileaks financial blockade by girlinatrainingbra · · Score: 4, Informative
    re: You can protect against everything but a corrupt government with a desire to seize all of your infrastructure.

    .
    Amen to that. That's exactly what happened to Wikileaks and the financial blockade forced by the USA government. A little protection racket talk against Visa and Mastercard ("nice little business and cash flow you've got there. You wouldn't want to forfeit all of it by continuing to provide processing and money access to some punks like wikileaks, then, would ya?") and suddenly there was no way for Wikileaks to get any donations from anyone. You are so right about corrupt governments. Sad but true.

    1. Re:same as for wikileaks financial blockade by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      Yes, because the USA is the only country in the world that offers a way to transfer money between two parties.

      IF that were actually true, you'd have bigger problems than anything related to Assange.

      There are almost 200 countries in the world, yet you blame all your problems on only one of them.

      There are multiple trivial ways in multiple countries that the US has no control over that they could use. Its just a whole lot more fun to blame your enemy than to actually make a change.

      When you bring up Wikileaks not being able to get money you just show how ignorant you actually are of reality, and more important that you aren't even going to bother putting an even minor amount of critical thought into the process so you could see how retarded of a statement you just made.

      Columbian drug dealers move BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and wikileaks can't get funding?

      Seriously? Thats your story? Thats what you expect people to believe? Do you not understand why the general public no longer gives a shit about wikileaks? This kind of shit is why, it makes it blindingly clear that wikileaks is just pushing their agenda against specific people. They are EXACTLY WHAT THEY CLAIM TO BE AGAINST, the control information and use it to manipulate other people into forwarding their own political agenda.

      Congratulations, you care so much about not being a government tool that you are now just Assange's tool instead. Clearly you're better off than before.

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  17. Re: are they really moveing or it is some kind of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just a domain change (.sx), presumably. A new domain can be registered and active within afew minutes.

    Downtime is usually due to a server/script issue, not propagation, in my experiences...but is that a bad sign?!

  18. TPB is NOT a BitTorrent site by EmagGeek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    TPB has absolutely DICK to do with BitTorrent or its creators.

    TPB is a site that aggregates links to torrent files that pirates created, much to the chagrin of the BitTorrent and users who use it for legitimate purposes.

    But, again, to describe TPB as a "BitTorrent site" is patently false at best, and a thinly veiled attempt at associating TPB with the creators of BitTorrent at worst.

    1. Re:TPB is NOT a BitTorrent site by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Informative

      TPB does have a decent amount of legit content, and it's called a "BitTorrent site" because of the BitTorrent protocol. Similarly, sites that have 'gifs' in their name are not related to Compuserve.

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    2. Re:TPB is NOT a BitTorrent site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like your analogy, good sir. Might you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?

    3. Re:TPB is NOT a BitTorrent site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called a BitTorrent site because just about 100% of its content is related to the BitTorrent protocol. It's also called a web site because it is on the web.

      But describing TPB as a "web site" is patently false at best, and a thinly veiled attempt at associated TPB with the creators of the world wide web at worst.

      This is what you sound like.

    4. Re:TPB is NOT a BitTorrent site by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      BitTorrent is both a piece of software, and a protocol. And as most of the material offered on TPB can be downloaded through the BitTorrent protocol "BitTorrent site" is a perfectly valid designation. Just like Slashdot is a "web site" even though they've not much to do with CERN.

    5. Re:TPB is NOT a BitTorrent site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so on linux, I have rtorrent, qtorrent, transmission, etc....

    6. Re:TPB is NOT a BitTorrent site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just about 100% of its content is related to pirated media and software, and porn.

      The _CONTENT_ is not related to BitTorrent. The people who created the pirated media simply USE bittorrent to their ends.

      Calling it a 'bittorrent' site is like calling an 82 Caprice a "drive by car" because ganstas use it a lot in drive by shootings.

      I'm sure the creators of bittorrent don't like being thought of as "that pirate protocol" any more than Chevroley likes an 82 Caprice being thought of as "that drive-by car."

      I think the OP has a good point, even if s/he didn't make it well.

  19. Not WHERE are the servers, but WHEN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They'll never be truly secure until they become Time Pirates...

  20. Implying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >Implying that Sweden have jurisdiction over Iceland and their Domain

  21. Re:finally on-topic! by jones_supa · · Score: 0

    Goatse - the Mona Lisa of the Internet.

  22. Re:This is BAD news for all of us! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the UN get ahold of the net, expect seizures for anti-islam sites being hosted in the USA. People who argue for the UN to rule the net don't understand what they're arguing for.

    There's nothing further to discuss on this matter.

  23. Until MPAA sends Google an OCILLA notice by tepples · · Score: 1

    it'll be as easy as googling thepiratebay

    Only until some movie studio sends Google a notice of claimed infringement under OCILLA. "We found torrents for ten of our most recent DVD releases by typing their titles into this search engine. (Please refer to attached result page screenshots.) These releases are being offered to the public without our permission and in a manner not consistent with fair use. In part because of its history of openly defying notices of claimed infringement, courts in at least one country have found The Pirate Bay guilty or liable of contributory infringement of our copyrights. Google could be just as guilty or liable by continuing to link to The Pirate Bay. So please remove from your index the following domains where The Pirate Bay can be reached."

    1. Re:Until MPAA sends Google an OCILLA notice by tqk · · Score: 1

      it'll be as easy as googling thepiratebay

      Only until some movie studio sends Google a notice of claimed infringement ...

      Here's an idea. Google "search engine". Google's not the only one out there. Now the MafiAA has to play whackamole with search engines too. Last I heard, there are still gopher servers running out there. They'll have to slap them into line too. What else?

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  24. USA Inc. by tepples · · Score: 1

    I much prefer to be ruled by a democratic government than by a corporation

    What is a democratic government other than a corporation whose citizens each hold one share that converts to a voting share at the age of majority? Citizens get to elect the board of directors (called Parliament, Congress, etc.), and in many countries, citizens directly elect the CEO.

  25. I thought THE was for when you're not famous by tepples · · Score: 1

    Yes they are famous now so they get to use THE.

    I thought THE was for when you're not famous. When Facebook wasn't quite famous enough to buy facebook.com from whoever owned it at the time, it had to use thefacebook.com.

  26. Wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you been paying attention to Italy recently?

    Last I checked the Mafia *WAS* running the government, as well as being the sole reason they hadn't financially imploded.

  27. Anarchy is democracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Freedom is slavery.

  28. Jack Sparrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mystical quest to the isle of tortuga...

  29. Careful about the name of the island by SpammersAreScum · · Score: 1

    "... Caribbean island of Sint Maarten with a new .sx domain name. 'Control of the island ... is split between France and the Netherlands." Yes, the island is split into French and Dutch parts. The Dutch part is called Sint Maarten and the French part is called Saint-Martin. The respective residents may use those names for the island as a whole as well, just to be confusing; English speakers call the island Saint Martin. I believe the TLD .sx is officially assigned specifically to the Dutch dependency of Sint Maarten, not the island as a whole; the French dependency ISPs apparently uses .fr or .gp (from nearby Guadeloupe). Also, Sint Maarten (the Dutch entity, not the island) used to be part of the Netherlands Antilles, which recently dissolved, and so may be using its .an TLD...

  30. Re:My first time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TLDR: eat shit

  31. This is what it looks like.. by sky770 · · Score: 1

    Pls mod up Bus(/car/any_transportation_media) = Bit Torrent Protocol Type of bus(public transport/commute) = file sharing Road(where it runs) = web - A person uses a bus to go(and carry his bag) from a place to another.. - that same person deliver some bombs to a government office.. All this doesn't means that the transportation is bad..or the road is Bad..or even the type of bus... it totally depends on the person what he/she is using that bus for. Also, it would totally illogical if the government / any corp. tries to block the Road, the type.of bus or even tries to filter out busses Lol they tried that'all and everytime they got a big mid. Finger shown to Them and their alliances.

    1. Re: This is what it looks like.. by sky770 · · Score: 1

      Sorry for the text formatting. Sent from a Mobile Device..

  32. the logic is simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this place has a nudist resort