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Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream?

New submitter some old guy writes "Marcus Wohlsen writing in Wired Business makes a good case for why no amount of marketing hype will cure Google Glass of its inherent dorkiness. 'Google Glass fails to acknowledge that walking around with a camera mounted on the side of your face at all times makes you look dorky. Think of the Bluetooth headset: it’s a really sensible way to use your phone without having to take it out of your pocket—so sensible that there’s really no reason not to keep that headset in your ear most of the time. But you don’t, do you?' He also makes an interesting comparison to the Segway debacle: 'If we were all riding around on Segways now, cities would probably be better places to live compared to the car-infested streets we still endure. But that transformation hasn't happened. And it won’t. Why? Because Segways are lame. They’re too rational. They fail to acknowledge all the irrational reasons people love their cars.'"

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  1. Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes

    1. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thread closed.

    2. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by dzfoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Pocket protectors. 20-sided dice. Fanny packs. Floppy diskettes.

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    3. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by Russ1642 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When I see 50 somethings wearing bluetooth earpieces I'm inclined to think that in ten years they'll be wearing these goofy glasses too.

    4. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by moeinvt · · Score: 3, Funny

      Personal computers running Linux? :-)

    5. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by tgd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thread closed.

      And yet this is more or less the same thing they said about mobile phones in the early 80's. No more than a few k needed in the world or something similarly stupid.

      I keep seeing people using that argument, for some reason. Not sure why, because that wasn't actually the case. Not even remotely. The issue with cell phones in the early 80's was the cost and the combination of size/weight/battery life.

      Car phones were plenty common, and people wanted them. Sure, they were expensive. But claiming that people said they were too nerdy, or not many people wanted them, or needed them is, frankly, so far from reality the statement had to have first been made by someone who wasn't even alive at the time.

    6. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Andoid is Linux, and by looking around at all the people using Android phones, I would say that these are "personal computers, running linux".

      We've had the "year of Linux" except it wasn't on the desktop. And that is why, most people missed it.

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    7. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by drakaan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Those weren't just AR goggles, they were an assistive device for the severe vision problem the guy had and were semi-implanted.

      If you're also walking around punching anyone with a cameraphone, then I guess that's consistent...not rational, mind you, but consistent.

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    8. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by rwa2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      All of which were rendered unnecessary because everyone adopted a 10-year-old nerdly thing: the smartphone. Scrawling notes: on the phone. Game playing: on the phone. File storage/transmission: on the phone. So yes, sometimes old nerd things don't become popular --- when there's a newer nerd thing to replace them.

      This. 20 years ago I was fantasizing about having a low-profile wearable computer with internet access always attached to me in a low-profile package, so it wouldn't be too socially conspicuous.

      So what does mainstream society do? Simply make it socially fashionable for everyone and their mother to walk around staring at a big unwieldy brick.

      This is why nerds will never win at solving other people's problems. If you try to provide a rational smart solution, it'll be dismissed as being uncool for "trying too hard".

    9. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by boristdog · · Score: 5, Funny

      As a 50 year-old, I resent the fact that you think my cheap USB drive that I carry around on my ear with an old twist-tie is me trying to look young. It's just more convenient to carry it that way, really.

    10. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by Cenan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thread closed.

      And yet this is more or less the same thing they said about mobile phones in the early 80's. No more than a few k needed in the world or something similarly stupid.

      I keep seeing people using that argument, for some reason. Not sure why, because that wasn't actually the case. Not even remotely. The issue with cell phones in the early 80's was the cost and the combination of size/weight/battery life.

      Car phones were plenty common, and people wanted them. Sure, they were expensive. But claiming that people said they were too nerdy, or not many people wanted them, or needed them is, frankly, so far from reality the statement had to have first been made by someone who wasn't even alive at the time.

      Well I do remember the 80s and the impending doom of cell phones. I also went out and bought one of the first ones. Whatever.

      The difference here is that the cell phones solved a tangible problem: if you were not in your car or in your house, you were pretty much unreachable. Pagers could kind of stand in, but you'd still have to get to a phone to call back. Enter the cell phone and suddenly your grandma is texting all hours of the day.

      Google glass on the other hand doesn't solve anyones problem, they deliver already available functionality (via the phone in your pocket) in a new and nerdy package.

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    11. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by icebike · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And yet this is more or less the same thing they said about mobile phones in the early 80's. No more than a few k needed in the world or something similarly stupid.
       

      Except that mobile phones filled an obvious need, one that had been long recognized.

      Being part of the borg doesn't.

      The current implementation of Google Glass is like those ridiculously large cell phones of 1973. People laughed at those too.

      Google Glass will not survive in its current form. That is the only certain thing about it. But that doesn't mean it won't survive in some other form. I doubt it will always have a camera, because people won't tolerate being recorded 24/7 by everyone they encounter. People will insist you take them off when entering businesses, stores, and meetings.

      It will probably revert to only being a display device, a personal HUD.

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    12. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Informative

      Most Anonymous Cowards are so inadequate they don't have any opinions of their own, they cut-n-paste other people's.

      http://rawmaterialformisanthropes.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/i-hate-nerds.html

      And some twits actually modded it up!

    13. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by markdavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >"This. 20 years ago I was fantasizing about having a low-profile wearable computer with internet access always attached to me in a low-profile package, so it wouldn't be too socially conspicuous."

      Didn't we all.

      But did your dream include a company tracking, saving, sharing, and identifying your every move down to the square foot? Did it include handing over access to your passwords, your list of apps, your texts, your Email, your contacts, your calls, your photos, your files, and pretty much everything else to some company (and government possibly without even a warrant)?

      And yet, can we imagine life without this little package? Ability to contact anyone anywhere anytime, call for help if needed, answer all our questions, guide us to where we need to go, entertain us when we have some time to kill...

      There is usually a flip side to every technological advancement. The idea of strapping an internet-connected camera and mic to your head, pointed AT OTHER PEOPLE, all the time, is certainly another issue society will have to deal with. Hopefully it is more about privacy, manners, freedom, and etiquette than just fashion.

    14. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by fazig · · Score: 5, Funny

      And the best part of it, those don't make you look dorky at all!

    15. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Andoid is Linux

      Funny how the definition of Linux oscillates between a full OS "distribution" and just the kernel, depending on what the person's trying to prove at the time.

      I'm beginning to think RMS is right about one thing. The OS should be called GNU/Linux. Or maybe even that's understating it. If Linux with Android on top is called "Android". Linux with GNU on top should be called "GNU".

      So, what nerds were using 20 years ago was GNU. And the mainstream still isn't using it.

    16. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Informative

      But still I see very few people wearing blue-tooth headsets. And usually when I do, it's people who have just left their car. I still think it looks completely ridiculous when people are talking using a bluetooth headset. And with cars having built in bluetooth, I think I even see fewer people with the earpieces.

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    17. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wait, products must solve a tangible problem in order to catch on? Well shit, that sucks for twitter, facebook, AND the tablet market.

    18. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by BattleApple · · Score: 3, Informative

      On the guy's blog about the McDonalds incident, he says "The eyeglass is permanently attached and does not come off my skull without special tools.", but that's the closest thing I've been able to find. Somewhere, I read that it just has electrodes stuck to his head like an ECG. Hardly implants.
      As for his "severe vision problem", he says in that same post that he carries around a letter from his doctor, but never mentions a vision disorder.

      http://eyetap.blogspot.com/2012/07/physical-assault-by-mcdonalds-for.html

    19. Re:Is Google Glass Too Nerdy For the Mainstream? by hypergreatthing · · Score: 5, Funny

      google glass does solve a problem. When you see that hot chick walking down the street and you're like, damn, i wish i could record that. Well now you can(tm)!

  2. Yes. by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Betteridge's law of headlines is way off on this one.

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  3. Today is not next week... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Marcus Wohlsen writing in Wired Business makes a good case for why no amount of marketing hype will cure Google Glass of its inherent dorkiness.

    And walking around glued to your Smart Phone doesn't? Remember when hands-free Blue Tooth ear thingies came out? Tell me that's not dorky, walking around talking to yourself...

    Yes, today it is. But being tied to your mobile device (even *having* a mobile device) use to be very nerdy. In time it will be "nerdy" *not* to have a some type of Intertube connected HUD on your eyeball. Eventually there will be implants and the data will be âoeprojectedâ directly into your brain.

    Besides, we all know that "nerds" actually set the tech style trends. There will be a critical mass point, and weâ(TM)ll start seeing these things for sale at the Big Box stores.

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    1. Re:Today is not next week... by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Let's be honest, walking around staring at your phone is nerdy too. So is pulling out your phone at lunch, and yet a lot of otherwise 'cool' people do both those things. Wearing sagging pants is incredibly dorky.

      If the things provide actual, real benefit to a lot of people, then soon everyone will be wearing them. If they don't, then they won't catch on. Stylishness is a side-issue in this game. If it's useful, it will become stylish. Like a codpiece.

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  4. Too caught up on appearances by ZorinLynx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think society would be a better place if people were less worried about "dorkiness" and more worried about being practical.

    Another example is fanny packs. They're incredibly convenient for carrying random crap around, but because society has deemed them "dorky", nobody wants to wear them.

    Heck, men can't even carry a small bag around with them because it will be deemed a "purse".

    Why are we so caught up, as a society, on such idiotic things? We should just do what is convenient and works and not make fun of each other over it.

    1. Re:Too caught up on appearances by RoTNCoRE · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Agreed. Also, I remember the 80's when the select few people who had cell phones/car phones where seen as self important douches. Now everyone is a self important douche with a cellphone!

      Just like cellphones, the glasses will become less intrusive.

  5. possibly, but smartphones caught on by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the 1990s you looked pretty dorky pulling a PalmPilot out of your pocket to browse the internet on, but it seems reasonably widely accepted nowadays. I mean, it still looks dorky, but it's mainstream anyway. Is an eyepiece one step too far to make that transition? Maybe, but I wouldn't have predicted the ubiquitous public use of smartphones, either (I would imagine people would have them, but not that they'd be willing to walk down the street typing on them).

  6. Problem is.... by camperdave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem is, nobody wants to wear glasses, even people who need them for vision correction. That's why contacts were invented, and laser vision correction. So why, oh why, would we ditch glasses, only to wear different glasses.

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  7. Segways? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If we were all riding around on Segways now, cities would probably be better places to live compared to the car-infested streets we still endure.

    If we were all riding around on Segways now, cities would probably be better places to live but our daily commutes would take two to five times longer. We won't even talk about having Segways all over the icy and heavy snowed streets in the winter.

    1. Re:Segways? by admdrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ugh yeah, I wish people would stop using Segway as an example of useful innovation. The technology behind them is interesting, but as a whole they failed to actually improve transportation in any fashion.

    2. Re:Segways? by Hentes · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Segway was a solution looking for a problem.

  8. Really. by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because Segways are lame. They’re too rational. They fail to acknowledge all the irrational reasons people love their cars.

    Yes, irrational reasons like ... rain. Or passengers. Or payload. Or personal security. Or range. Or speed.

    Google Glass fails to acknowledge that walking around with a camera mounted on the side of your face at all times makes you look dorky.

    Look, there are armies of douche-Borgs walking around with bluetooth earpieces in, thinking not that they fall enough below some painful threshold of dorkiness while wearing them, but rather that they look cool doing so. These are the spinning hubcaps of phone accessories.

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  9. Re:Doesn't account for other issues either. by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Informative

    How did this get modded up? It's been made in in each of the billion previous glass threads that they have versions that can be fitted with prescription lenses.

  10. Re:Doesn't account for other issues either. by BenSchuarmer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who needs to see the real world when you can see what Google wants you to see?

  11. Segways are a terrible comparison by donaggie03 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The segway rant in the summary is ridiculous. Segways never caught on because they fail as a replacement for cars. People still need to get their groceries home and their kids to soccer practice, and they would still revert back to using their car when it rains. That fact alone makes Segways an addition as opposed to a replacement for cars, and Segways are way too expensive to be an additional cost. Secondly, if a large portion of a population started using Segways, there would still be a large portion that also used cars, so we couldn't just rebrand the streets for Segway use. A few Segways on the sidewalk is a novelty. Hundreds at one time would be silly. Whatever the "irrational reasons people love their cars," there are still a great deal of rational reasons why people love their cars, so the "irrational" argument is moo. Of course most of the large trucks and suvs on the streets are unnecessary, but those would be replaced by smaller cars, not moving platforms that people have to stand on for miles at a time. Maybe Google Glass will catch on and maybe it won't but that has nothing to do with the failure of the Segway to actually solve the problem it wanted to solve.

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    1. Re:Segways are a terrible comparison by BrentWM · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Segways fail as a replacement for bicycles. They don't go any faster, can't be configured to carry significant loads, run on sidewalks instead of streets, and eliminate the health benefits.

  12. Not just fashion by markdavis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >" 'Google Glass fails to acknowledge that walking around with a camera mounted on the side of your face at all times makes you look dorky."

    It isn't just dorky, it is rude, creepy, and invasive too. The author and Google (especially the CEO) seems to just completely skirt the entire issue of privacy- not only for the user, but all the hundreds of "victims" around the user, every day. Take out your phone and hold it up in the air, pointed at everyone you pass, meet, talk to, sit next to, and see what kind of reaction you get.

    So stop pretending it is just about fashion, it is really insulting.

  13. Seriously? Segways are "too rational"? by denzacar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    On what planet exactly?

    They are slow scooters that require the entire world to adjust to them so those with more money than sense could walk less.
    They take up more room than a walking human, have zero cargo capacity AND can't do stairs.

    But most importantly they represent an overpriced way of doing something most people can do by just walking - moving slowly in a straight line.

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  14. Snow Crash already predicted this by Infernal+Device · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The inherent non-acceptability of Google Glass was somewhat predicted by Snow Crash over 20 years ago. One of the characters, a "gargoyle" walks around in full-recording mode at all times, trying to capture every bit of information possible. The description, as given, is at best neutral and my takeaway was that it wasn't considered a positive thing by other information gatherers of that world.

    Crapflooding ones own info stream is still crapflooding.

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  15. internet 20 yrs ago? by schlachter · · Score: 3, Funny

    What were you wanting the internet for 20 yrs ago? To read updates to your favorite news group as you walked around?

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