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Printable Gun Downloads Top 100k In 2 Days, Thanks to Kim Dotcom

Sparrowvsrevolution writes "The promise of a fully 3D-printable gun is that it can spread via the Internet and entirely circumvent gun control laws. Two days after that digital weapon's blueprint first appeared online, it seems to be fulfilling that promise. Files for the printable gun known as that 'Liberator' have been downloaded more than 100,000 times in two days, according to Defense Distributed, the group that created it. Those downloads were facilitated by Kim Dotcom's startup Mega, which Defense Distributed is using to host the Liberator's CAD files. And it's also been uploaded to the Pirate Bay, where it's one of the most popular files in the filesharing site's uncensorable 3D printing category."

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  1. Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The way this is promoted in the news you'd think that zip guns never existed, and until "just hours ago" there was no way to come up with an improvised weapon.

  2. Re:Which law? by Feyshtey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not even printing and assemblng the weapon breaks gun control law. You need no license or certification to produce a firearm, unless that weapon is a class3 (fully auto, cannons, sawed off shotguns, mortars, etc.), or you intend to sell it.

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  3. Re:This is the best way of gun control by femtobyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If firearms stop working, every human being is at the mercy of larger and stronger people.

    Fortunately, 100% of larger and stronger people aren't vicious muder-rapist psychopaths just waiting for the chance to rampage over society. I think there are plenty of perfectly nice large and strong people to handle the tiny few who suddenly decide to go rogue. Hey, I already walk around unarmed --- a short, flabby weakling --- and yet don't regularly get beset by burly bandits. With guns, I'm still at the mercy of those better armed, with better marksmanship, and more willingness to initiate violence with the element of surprise (no matter how well-armed a sharpshooter I am, I'm still screwed if a stranger decides to shoot me in the back of my head).

  4. Firearms (or lack thereof) in the UK (was Re:Yawn) by WillAdams · · Score: 5, Informative

    Gun ownership among everyone in the U.K. is low. It was so low in WWII that ``The American Committee for defense of British Homes has organized to collect gifts of pistols, rifles, revolvers, shotguns (and binoculars) from American civilians who wish to answer the call and aid in defense of British homes'':

    http://twinbuttebunch.org/index.php?fuseaction=misc.sendguns

    I'm given to understand that my grandfather sent over a Remington No. 4 which an uncle of mine had cut down to a pistol....

    This article indicates a dramatic uptick in gun crime (89%) in the U.K. though:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

    FWIW, I can't think of a single police force in the U.S. where regular police officers on patrol carry submachine guns.

    Another article:
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/12/11/gun-crime-soars-in-england-where-guns-are-banned-n1464528

    An interesting statistic is that a home is burglarized when occupied ~13% of the time in the U.S., while that number is 47% in the U.K. --- my father worked as a prison guard, and a recurring theme among people serving time for robbery was the importance of ``casing the joint'' because one didn't want to risk confronting an armed home-owner.

    and here's an article which argues about statistical reporting:
    http://www.theendrun.com/larry-pratt-british-gun-crime-stats-a-sham

    and here're some hard numbers:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

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    William

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  5. Re:This is the best way of gun control by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since you brought up Automobile deaths vs Firearms death, lets really look at the data.

    Number of households in the US: 114,761,359 (2007-2011)
    Number of households in the US with at least one automobile: (90.9% 2010): 104,318,076
    Number of households in the US with at least one firearm: (47% Gallup 2011): 53,937,839

    Number of deaths involving an automobile in the US: (2010) 35,332 (no breakdown of accidental, homicide, or suicide given)
    Number of deaths involving a firearm in the US: (2010) 31,672 including 11,078 homicides, 606 accidental discharge, 19,392 suicides, 252 undeterminable intent, 344 other.

    Using the above (all from US census with the exception of the gallop poll as indicated which agrees with NRA estimates), lets normalize the mortality rate based on availability within a household:
    Number of deaths per 100,000 households with automobiles involving an automobile in US: 33.9
    Number of deaths per 100,000 households with firearms involving a firearm in US: 58.7

    As you can see the mortality rate from firearms is 24.8 greater than automobiles. The correct method of interpreting these calculations are as follows:
    34 out of 100,000 households with an automobile experienced or caused a death with an automobile in 2010.
    59 out of 100,000 households with a firearm experienced or caused a death with a firearm in 2010.
    (Note: "experienced or caused a death" signifies that the death originated from the item within the household. The death itself can be within a household that doesn't possess the item.)

    This exercise highlights the fact that while there were 3,660 more deaths involving automobiles than firearms in 2010, only 47% of the households had access to a firearm versus 90.9% of the households having access to a motor vehicle.

    Despite your assertion that "No one is screaming to Congress to ban automobiles", there are quite a large number of governmental regulations related to motor vehicles. Comparing automobile deaths with firearm related deaths actually hurts your argument since it demonstrates that the regulation of manufacture (safety, fuel efficiency, pollution controls), ownership (registration and taxation) and operation (licensing and traffic enforcement) keeps the mortality rate of automobile ownership quite low despite being in almost 91% of households.

    Of course this ignores the fact automobiles are designed to transport people and firearms are designed to kill.

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