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17-Year-Old Girl Wins Boston TV API Programming Contest

An anonymous reader writes "Jenny Lamere, a graduating high school senior from Nashua NH, was the youngest of 80 participants (and one of only four women) in the Hill Holiday TVnext hackathon held in Boston this past April, a programming contest sponsored by TV API providers. Her submission of 'Twivo,' an app that allows TV viewers to block spoiler tweets while watching a show and recover them later, won the contest's 'Sync to Broadcast' category (one of five), and was also named the event's 'Best in Show' (overall winner). At least one tech company has expressed interest in her app (a short demo and interview with the judges starts at 3:30 in the embedded YouTube clip). Lamere plans to enter the Rochester Institute of Technology in the fall, and will pursue a career in software development."

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  1. Re:Censorship by EmagGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Choosing not to listen to someone is not censorship.

  2. Re:Censorship by D1G1T · · Score: 2

    Your 1st amendment right applies to spoilers as long as my 2nd amendment right applies to spoilers.

  3. Being a woman at RIT by tidepool · · Score: 2

    She'll share a very similar Male/Female ratio when she attends RIT as well, at least as of 15 years ago or so...

    1. Re:Being a woman at RIT by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2, Informative

      at least as of 15 years ago or so...

      When, as we all know so well, the world was exactly the same as it is now.

      Also, in other news, men and women are different and a gender imbalance somewhere doesn't automatically mean something is horribly wrong and must be fixed.

      And here's some actual statistics - the ratio last year was 67:33, a bit closer to 50:50 than 76:4.

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    2. Re:Being a woman at RIT by Seumas · · Score: 2

      As long as nothing is unfairly barring the opportunity, I don't see that anything else matters.

      94.2% of nurses are women, but I neither see any need to shift that to 46% (because women are 54% of society) nor anything in nursing preventing men who do want to be nurses from doing so.

      source: http://www.minoritynurse.com/minority-nursing-statistics

    3. Re:Being a woman at RIT by duckgod · · Score: 5, Interesting

      at least as of 15 years ago or so...

      When, as we all know so well, the world was exactly the same as it is now.

      Also, in other news, men and women are different and a gender imbalance somewhere doesn't automatically mean something is horribly wrong and must be fixed.

      And here's some actual statistics - the ratio last year was 67:33, a bit closer to 50:50 than 76:4.

      The current male to female ratio at RIT Computer Science program is 68:1. RIT also has a fruitfall Arts program which brings in a lot of females. This is where you get the 67:33. I never took a computer science class with a female while there. In fact outside of a few liberal arts classes I was free from the distraction. However, every once in a while I would see one of those mythical creatures from a window on the 3rd floor of GCCIS. That always made for an exciting day...

  4. Re:Censorship by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Censorship is when I keep you from saying it. You can still say it.

    I just refuse to listen.

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  5. Negative Attention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wish people would stop focusing on age and gender.

    1. Re:Negative Attention by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Yaknow, feminists go on and on about how women should be equal, they shouldn't be the recipients of special attention, etc. etc. etc. And then something like this happens - and it wouldn't even be a story other than the person who won it just happened to have a vagina. It sort of makes feminists look like a bunch of hypocrites.

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    2. Re:Negative Attention by femtobyte · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yaknow, centuries of deeply entrenched stereotypes don't magically vanish away overnight. Lifting up counter-examples to the stereotype that women just aren't mentally cut out for logical/intellectual work is important to eradicating such views. Other young women should get the chance to see female role models praised in the media for accomplishments besides being Miss Teen America 2013. While an ultimate goal is reaching a society where it's nothing special for a woman to be a programmer, to *get there* from our present sexist world, one needs to actively push back against entrenched misogyny.

    3. Re:Negative Attention by noobermin · · Score: 2

      It is a reality that women are are poorly represented in IT. In fact, if you're one of those types who believe "reverse discrimination" is an issue, you should be upholding her as an example that women can and do succeed in computing and thus need no special attention.

      I'm happy because she can be a role model for her peers, both male and female.

    4. Re:Negative Attention by femtobyte · · Score: 2

      As a male, I guess I should be proud to have achieved cunt status. If people like you vigorously hate me, I must be doing something right to piss off the scumbags in this world.
      Anyway, part of not being a fucking bigot is listening to women's voices on issues of discrimination. No matter how many angry men insist to me that women have reached full equality, it's really not a convincing argument compared to the dissenting accounts I hear from *women* I know. Guess what: your exclusively male view of the world may not be the final word on correctness. Rather than discount women's voices in assessing the state of gender equality, I'm willing to give them a lot more credibility than the room full of males insisting they'd never be sexist (unless the "bigoted feminazi cunt" deserved it).

    5. Re:Negative Attention by femtobyte · · Score: 2

      You're that into fat beardly dudes? Sorry to let you down, AC, but I'm pretty sure I swing for the other team.
      Yeah, I really wasn't thinking about the potential gender implications of my username (it's a lame joke based on SI prefixes that I tossed out on the spur of the moment when signing up for a Slashdot account). I am rarely mistaken for female in real life --- but it has been educational to see what sort of slimeballs a gender-ambiguous internet identity will lure out of the woodwork.

    6. Re:Negative Attention by Swampash · · Score: 2

      Yeah, we need to focus on things more important than that a female won a programming contest.

      Like, why was there a dev workstation in the kitchen?

    7. Re:Negative Attention by jamesh · · Score: 2

      I wish people would stop focusing on age and gender.

      It's a double edged sword that one... On the one hand there's a danger of people focusing on her age and gender at the expense of her entry and tech skills, which is bad for all the obvious reasons. On the other hand this might open the eyes of other young girls who just assumed such things were out of their reach - an easy assumption to make when they look around and see a playing field dominated by males.

      I watched the start of the vid... they made a bit of a big deal about it at the start and made some comments that were a bit silly and unnecessary, and which might be a bit intimidating , but then moved on to talk about the app and didn't mention the gender issue again... unless I missed something (my download speed has been all over the place lately so it was a bit stop/start watching it)

    8. Re:Negative Attention by jamesh · · Score: 2

      I think you just made their point. Your feminist argument is 'men and women should be equal except women should be superior'.

      No I think you have it upside down. I read the argument as 'all people should have equal opportunities but they don't right now so to set that right we are going to have to give the minorities a bit of special attention to show others that it's possible to succeed'. I can see why it might suck for you if they go and give attention to a girls achievements instead of yours, but it's for the greater good so get over yourself.

      And, frankly, most guys who started programming in their teens or earlier are thinking 'WTF' when you suggest that a 'delay messages from twitter' app is somehow an example of amazing programming that should be lauded in the media. Had a guy done this, no-one would have cared.

      And here's your problem. A 17yo girl invents a product that may just appeal mainly to 17yo girls, and you rubbish it on that basis. Got any other opinions that the marketplace doesn't care about?

    9. Re:Negative Attention by LordLucless · · Score: 2

      It's also a reality that they're poorly represented in the plumbing and electrician trades, and that men are poorly represented in nursing, the beauty industry, and education. Why are there no complaints and attempts at artificially twiddling the ratios in those fields? It can't even be a money thing - I know plumbers and electricians who earn about the same as me.

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  6. I would comment... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...but with all the hullabaloo around the treatment of women in computer science lately I'm not even sure what to say anymore. Did she win because she's a girl? Did she win despite being a girl? Clearly being a girl matters, or you wouldn't have mentioned that only four girls participated. Do we wish her luck with her career choice or do we warn her off because she's going to be ogled by her predominantly male colleagues if she pursues this career? Would she prefer that we not talk about her chromosomes and focus instead on the blatantly derivative choice of the "Twivo" name for her app?

  7. Re:Censorship by femtobyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In a sense it is: but you are applying the censorship only to what you see/hear. I think people should be permitted to self-censor. If I want to filter my view of the world to block out ********, then I should be able to do that. If I want to write a ********-filter plugin to help other people choose to avoid wasting their time on ******** too, then that's fine. The problem is when I impose censorship on others: if I'm the manager at the local telco monopoly, I shouldn't be installing network filters to keep ******** off my customers' computers (if they want to do so themselves, fine).

  8. You have no proof, but.. by OrangeTide · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It certainly wouldn't have been newsworthy if they selected a male 20s-something developer.

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  9. Re:Sexism by Arancaytar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Indeed, there is a wide-spread institutional bias that stereotypes women as having superior computer skills.

    That's why so few men become programmers.

  10. Re:No surprises there... by interval1066 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    After all, nobody would have watched if an adult male programmer won it...

    A friend of mine whom I respect and admire as a programmer very much might have a lot to say about this. Men receive accolades for being great programmers all the time, the industry is completely dominated by men. Everytime my friend has gotten a new job (she's on her second one in S.V., she's from the east coast and a Carnigie-Mellon grad, very accomplished) she gets hit on by the men in the staff, and knowing she's a lesbian doesn't seem to phaze them. She's gotten held back on other jobs because the admin and IT staff were chauvinistic, gotten practically raped by cabbies, and treated like shit professionally becuase she's attractive. Its absurd and it needs to stop. When we have a truly blind-to-gender society you can call out the feminists. Until then you're full of shit. I can't have respect of my male friends when their bias shows simply becuase a fellow engineer has a vagina between her legs. Its ridiculous.

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  11. Re:Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While you are of course right, there's one interesting thought about this:

    There can also be self-censorship. A concept better known as ignorance... especially in schizotypic illnesses (and in a very obvious way in multiple-personality disorders) including religiousness (where the other personality is "god/jesus/satan").

    Which obviously is just as harmful and can be done in masses just as well.

    Hence it is very popular with the political social engineers. People who are made to ignore things like that think it's their own free will, and would never complain about censorship nor fight it. Quite the opposite: They usually defend it the stronger, the less they know about it or why they think that way.

    So every time we refuse to listen, we must all be very wary and ask ourselves: Are this information and my action actually useful or harmful for me?

  12. Re:Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stop spreading my password, please!

  13. Re:Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No it isn't. Censorship is preventing someone from speaking. Ignoring someone is not remotely close. I ignore people all of the time, but I'm not preventing them from speaking their xenophobic racist bile. It's no different from moving away from the fat sweaty pig that has questionable personal hygiene issues, or the inconsiderate smoker wafting the pollution from their nicotine fix. I don't like either, I get up and move elsewhere. They can continue stinking everyone else out without being remotely bothered by my disgust.

  14. Re:Censorship by RussR42 · · Score: 2

    hunter2

  15. Re:Censorship by nospam007 · · Score: 2

    "It's not even censorship, it's time-delay for Twitter. "

    17 year old girl fixes a problem only 17 year old girls have.

  16. Re:Censorship by jhoegl · · Score: 5, Funny

    They have been censored.

  17. Re:Censorship by Gription · · Score: 2

    Uhhh...
    So exactly what part of bleeping out a word or phrase isn't "preventing others from speaking" that word or phrase?
    I fail to see any argument where failing to censor all speech in anyway changes small selective censorship from being anything except for preventing the speech of that which was censored.

    Or to put it in a more simplistic fashion...
    In your given example the censorship begins exactly at the beginning of the beep. The censorship ends at the end of the beep. Anything that is outside of the duration of the beep has nothing to do with censorship.
    By your argument if you had someone who was censored, you could argue that failing to stop them from speaking to the guy behind the counter at the 7-Eleven would mean that they hadn't been censored because you didn't stop all of their speech. It is a stupid argument.

  18. Low hanging fruit? by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 2

    So let me get this straight: This project won an award yet set-top-box delivery UI's still suck the big one. (Here's a big hint: prevent all the channels I don't ever want to see again from being seen e.g. the 36 friggin' shopping/infomercial channels) Makes you wonder what problems the other entrants attempted to solve.

  19. Re:Censorship by femtobyte · · Score: 2

    So exactly what part of bleeping out a word or phrase isn't "preventing others from speaking" that word or phrase?

    If the reporter decided not to replay any of the bigot's speech at all on the evening news, would you say that they were censoring even more? Are they also censoring every other single person whose speech they don't replay? How do you separate "preventing others from speaking" from "not repeating what others are speaking," or "only repeating excerpts from what people are speaking, interspersed with monotonic musical interludes"? I think a concept of "censorship" in terms of "information filtering" is more generally applicable, and avoids all sorts of tricky ambiguities about what is and isn't "preventing others from speaking," especially where it's not clear they'd be able to speak in the first place (you might not assume that this bigot would, by default, get a speaking spot on the evening news).

    By your argument if you had someone who was censored, you could argue that failing to stop them from speaking to the guy behind the counter at the 7-Eleven would mean that they hadn't been censored because you didn't stop all of their speech.

    Yes, I would say that the intended/attempted censorship failed in the case of the words they managed to get across before being silenced. Similarly, if you shot at someone and missed (or gave them a little flesh wound), that would be *attempted* murder, not murder, and I wouldn't say the survivor of the attempt had been murdered.

  20. Re:Censorship by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    If you are afraid of what your government, neighbors, police, etc, will think or do if you listen to something, then yeah, you're in trouble and should change.

    Are you being pragmatic, or are you assuming that that "they" are correct?

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