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Samsung Testing 5G Phones With 1gbps Download Speed

Gumbercules!! writes "While many smartphone users are still on 3G and are waiting for 4G to be available, Samsung is now testing 5G networks, capable of getting speeds up to 1gbps. Obviously, we're years away from seeing these in the wild (the company is shooting for 2020) but it's still an amazing improvement over what many people are experiencing now."

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  1. Spectrum? by thatkid_2002 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wouldn't a small amount of these phones flood a wireless spectrum? It would not take many people in an area until the speed is chopped down significantly.

    Or do they have poor range and expect femtocells everywhere? But why not just WiFi at that point?

    1. Re:Spectrum? by rossdee · · Score: 5, Informative

      "I do not know what is the limit of the "wireless spectrum" if there is any"

      There is legal limits (controlled by the FCC)

      There is technology limits

      The atmospere absorbs some frequencies

      There are practical limits - sure you can theoretically get lots of bandwidth in the X-Ray and gamma ray end of the spectrum, but do you really want one of those next to your ear?

    2. Re:Spectrum? by WhiteDragon · · Score: 5, Informative

      I do not know what is the limit of the "wireless spectrum" if there is any. Before this limit is reached, I guess just updating all hardware gears that transmit/route more efficiently is all that is needed.

      The limit is given precisely by Shannon's Law, which gives a mathematical limit on the amount of data that can be sent over a given amount of bandwidth. Spectral Efficiency is the amount of bandwidth available in a given wireless spectrum.

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    3. Re:Spectrum? by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nah, because everyone will reach their data caps in about 80 seconds. There will be plenty of bandwidth for the rest of the month.

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  3. Actually 4G According to ITU-R by mentil · · Score: 4, Informative

    The technical definition of 4G requires 1Gbps stationary and 100Mbps while moving. The network tech mentioned in the article is thus 4G.
    Notice that current '4G' technologies are usually called '4G LTE' in advertisements, to try to get around the established non-marketing definition.

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  4. The catch is... by toejam13 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The second article notes that the 5G tests are being conducted on the 28GHz Ka microwave band. They also note that they're using a 64 element antenna array.

    While those upper microwave bands are great in that you can get very wide channels (possibly hundreds of megahertz wide), their downfall is that they are incredibly line of sight restricted. This is compounded by significant atmospheric absorption. That's why many broadcasters on the band tend to use highly directional antennas. For omnidirectional use, you're going to have to deploy a lot of picocells.

    Also for their tests, are they using the large number of antennas for MIMO beamforming (additive RF amplification), MIMO spacial multiplexing (parallel RF feeds slightly out of phase of each other) or old fashioned directional transmission (or a combi of all three?). How much additional cost is that? Even with fractal antennas on short wavelengths, how many of them can you fit in a handset?

  5. What is this 5G thing? by ras · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Must we really publish brain farts from a fanboi on slashdot's front page? This "news item" is completely substance free. No description of technology, no links, no science, no official announcement from someone you might believe. It uses terms that don't exist - there is no 5G - or at least the mob responsible for naming GSM, 3G, 4G, LTE, LTE Advanced doesn't have one yet. And there is nothing particularly special about 1Gbps download speed. LTE Advanced already does that if is has around 67MHz of bandwidth available, and you are the only one using the cell.

    So let me see, what is there that could justify its position on the front page? Oh I see now - a baseless jibe at a Apple. That's OK then.

    1. Re:What is this 5G thing? by tlambert · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Samsung testing was in the LMDS frequency band, which the FCC has auctioned off already in the US to cable providers:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Multipoint_Distribution_Service

      The FCC has already licensed this band for satellite downlink:

      http://spectrumwiki.com/wiki/display.aspx?From=disp&f=28499999999

      Which means it can't be used for 5G in the US like they are doing with NTT DoCoMo in the Samsung experiments.

  6. Re:5G with 10GB/mo cap by ls671 · · Score: 5, Funny

    From TFS: "capable of getting speeds up to 1gbps"

    That's 0.125 GBps so 8 seconds for a GB. You need at least 80 seconds to hit your 10GB cap which is more than one minute. This sounds much fairer now.

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  7. Re:Vaporware much?? by KingMotley · · Score: 4, Informative

    Then perhaps you should stop reading slashdot, and instead go to amazon.com and newegg.com?

  8. Re:Ya well the ITU is a little silly with this by Almir43 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's funny you should say that, since the entire point of LTE is that it is a Long-Term Evolution platform. It isn't that the "standard was set too high" - it's more that the standard was designed to support high speeds so the wheel would not have to be re-invented as technology progressed.

    You can either create a new set of supporting standards and technologies every few years, or you can develop a set of standards that scales up as hardware allows better speeds. So it's only if one entirely misunderstands the purpose of LTE, that the standard would appear to be set too high. The gradual progression that Samsung demonstrates in the article is what LTE-Advanced was all about and is still firmly in 4G territory. 5G is just horrible marketing.