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Supreme Court Rules For Monsanto In Patent Case

Pigskin-Referee writes in with news of the Supreme Court's decision in a dispute between Monsanto and an Indiana farmer over patented seeds. "The Supreme Court has sustained Monsanto Co.'s claim that an Indiana farmer violated the company's patents on soybean seeds that are resistant to its weed-killer. The justices, in a unanimous vote Monday, rejected the farmer's argument that cheap soybeans he bought from a grain elevator are not covered by the Monsanto patents, even though most of them also were genetically modified to resist the company's Roundup herbicide. Justice Elena Kagan says a farmer who buys patented seeds must have the patent holder's permission. More than 90 percent of American soybean farms use Monsanto's 'Roundup Ready' seeds, which first came on the market in 1996."

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  1. The farmer's recourse is to sue to sell by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The simple matter is that the farmer's recourse is to now sue the seller (operator of the grain elevator), for selling seeds he is not authorized to sell, resulting in damages xzy as stipulated in the costs of the lawsuits the farmer had to defend itself against.

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    1. Re:The farmer's recourse is to sue to sell by berashith · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was wondering why Monsanto didnt sue the elevator instead. Obviously sueing your distributor and claiming they have no right to sell is a short sighted activity, but they are the ones who violated the contract. I just cant wrap my head around the concept that you can purchase something not under contract, that someone else can then come along and sue you for having purchased under incorrect terms.

      I guess the car analogy is that if you buy a stolen car, you are in possession of a stolen vehicle , but the real wrong doer is the guy selling 50 stolen cars on his used car lot.

    2. Re:The farmer's recourse is to sue to sell by Endo13 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, no.

      From TFA:

      He went to a grain elevator that held soybeans it typically sells for feed, milling and other uses, but not as seed.

      Nothing indicates that they sold him the soybeans to be planted. They sold them for feed, milling, or other uses, but he decided to plant them instead.

      Which to me just highlights how bad it is to allow something self-replicating (like plant seeds) to be patented. You can buy the seeds and grow the plants, but the 'fruit' you get from the plants (which are just new seeds) you're not allowed to plant. Frankly, it's stupid IMO, and one more reason patent law needs a major overhaul.

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    3. Re:The farmer's recourse is to sue to sell by Endo13 · · Score: 5, Informative

      They didn't sue the elevator because they did nothing wrong. They were selling the soybeans for 'feed, milling, and other uses'. Not for seed to be planted. You really can't do anything else useful with soybeans, so there you go.

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    4. Re:The farmer's recourse is to sue to sell by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

      The simple matter is that the farmer's recourse is to now sue the seller (operator of the grain elevator), for selling seeds he is not authorized to sell

      Wrong. Because the farmer wasn't sued for planting and growing the seeds. That was NOT the issue in this case, although you would be led to believe it was by the crappy Slashdot summary. The issue was that Bowman (the defendant):
      1) Bought seeds that were mostly Roundup Ready
      2) Planted them
      3) Sprayed the crop with glyphosate (the herbicide in Roundup) to kill the non-GMO plants
      4) Saved the resulting 100% pure RR beans, and planted them the following year
      This was a case of blatant, intentional infringement. Bowman deliberately concentrated the RR gene, and benefited from it by spraying with glyphosate (which would kill non-RR bean plants). Bowman openly admitted that this was what he did. His defense was not "I didn't do it", but rather "I have a right to do it". Well the Supreme Court unanimously disagreed. If he had simply bought the bean seeds, and grown them without herbicides, there would have been no issue.

       

    5. Re:The farmer's recourse is to sue to sell by SirGarlon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think the key word here is "sold." In the old-fashioned days, when you bought a physical object, it would become yours to do with as you will: to eat, plant, or whatever else you may want to do (including silly things like using them as alternative flooring in your house).

      In other words, by the strict definition of the verb "to sell," the seller loses control over what the buyer does with the item once the item has changed hands. IANAL but what worries me about this case is that the idea of selling something for limited set of purposes seems to be implicitly accepted. Why? How can the elevator sell seeds "for" one purpose but not another, and why is the court willing to respect those conditions? It seems like a huge backward step for property rights and a worrisome precedent from that perspective.

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    6. Re:The farmer's recourse is to sue to sell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, the car analogy is that the Toyota you bought drives past a Honda and gets some of the exhaust residue on it. Then the guys from Honda come around, swab your car, say that it tests positive for being a Honda, and rape you over the table.

      The seeds he bought weren't Monsanto seeds, they had just been pollinated (contaminated) by Monsanto plants that were upwind. The Monsanto genetic pollen is now all over his field, and any new soy beans he plants will have the Monsanto genetic fingerprint, meaning he will never be able to buy another brand ever again.

      I think an enterprising lawyer should partner up with a genetic testing company and go around to the small farmers to test their seeds before they plant to certify them as Monsanto GM free. Then periodically test the plants throughout the season, and as soon as any sign of Monsanto contamination shows up, sue Monsanto and every farmer within 30 miles that uses Monsanto seed for environmental contamination and plant rape.
      Huge class action damages here.

  2. Re:This is disgusting!! by Synerg1y · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Did you read TFA? The farmer knew exactly what he was doing and was trying to get around the patent to save money... he got caught.

    The bigger issue here is:

    Monsanto has a policy to protect its investment in seed development that prohibits farmers from saving or reusing the seeds once the crop is grown. Farmers must buy new seeds every year.

    That's a very harsh policy and they probably charge a premium for their seed, it must be tough to be a farmer nowadays.

  3. Re:This is disgusting!! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    The bigger issue here is:

    Monsanto has a policy to protect its investment in seed development that prohibits farmers from saving or reusing the seeds once the crop is grown. Farmers must buy new seeds every year.

    Only farmers that sign a contract with Monsanto are bound by this agreement. If you want to save your own seeds, you are free to do so. The defendant in this case was NOT sued for just planting seeds that happened to be GMO. He was sued for deliberately spraying his crop with glyphosate herbicide to kill non-RR plants in order to isolate the RR gene, and then he saved the resulting 100% RR beans and planted them the following year. Portraying him as an innocent and unwitting victim is absurd. He knew exactly what he was doing.

  4. Re:This is disgusting!! by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 5, Informative
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  5. Re:Rock and a hard place by The+Rizz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On the other hand we have Monsanto who spent millions of dollars creating genetically modified seeds that are resistant to their herbicides. There needs to be a way for them to make a profit from that investment.

    The issues; If there is no patent protection the seed manufacturer would have to make all their investment back in one year as any subsequent seeds can be saved and re-sold by farmers. Where is the incentive to invest in the technology if there is no way to benefit from it?

    The logical fallacy here is that selling the seeds is the only way they profit from this. The true fact is that they created the seeds to sell Roundup, which previously could not be used by farmers without killing the crops. They discovered that because of how fucked-up patent law is, they could also force the farmers to re-buy the seeds from them every year, in addition to buying the Roundup.

    This is not an issue of Monsanto not getting their money out of the research - the yearly sale of Roundup in vast quantities to the farmers does that. It's an issue of Monsanto using a broken patent system to double-dip into farmers' pockets after locking them into the seeds.

  6. Re:So much for that! by MrLint · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its worse than that. When monsanto's "patented" pollen contaminate non GMO plants, the offpring is suddenly monsanto's property.

  7. Re:So much for that! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh BS. There are plenty of high yield seed varieties that aren't own by Monsanto or anyone else. Besides 'Roundup Ready' is just a gene for Roundup resistance and the weeds have already appropriated said gene for their own purposes, thankyouverymuch. The way to feeding the world's poor is not to rely on herbicide resistance.

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  8. Re:So much for that! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    The plants may require nothing but mother nature, but in this case the farmer did a lot of work to propagate them, actively sowing, harvesting, saving them, and resowing them for 8 generations.

    What you describe is not illegal, and if he had merely done what you describe he would not have been sued. What you leave out, is that during each of those generations he sprayed his crop with glyphosate (the herbicide in Roundup) to kill any non-GMO plants and isolated and concentrated the patented gene, while simultaneously benefiting from the patent by ridding his fields of weeds in a way that someone using non-RR seeds would not be able to do. The issue here was active, deliberate and sustained infringement. Planting random seeds, and even replanting those seeds if grown without active use of the RR properties, was not an issue in this case. I have never heard of any case where Monsanto has sued anyone for unintentional infringement, despite lots of mythology to the contrary.

  9. Judges got it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sorry, but the patent only applies to the seed made/raised by Monsanto.

    Once it's been through a single planting / harvesting - it is no long the exact same seed - mutations have set in.

    Unless it is 100% genetically identical to the seed sold by Monsanto, whether or not it carries the RR gene sequence is irrelevant - the patent applies to the entire gene sequence, not just the bit that makes it RR.

    So once a single dna chain is modified (ie through natural selection) - it is no longer the patented product.

    End of story.

    The judges are WRONG.

  10. DRM for Seeds? by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Funny

    They were selling the soybeans for 'feed, milling, and other uses'. Not for seed to be planted.

    Well clearly Monsanto need to add DRM to their seeds because we can't have people buying seeds and then using them in an unlicensed fashion. I suppose the method that would work best in this case is to install a root kit.