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Researchers Fake Mini Volcanic Eruptions
ananyo writes "Volcanologists detonated explosive charges buried in a meadow in Ashford, New York, blowing 12 small craters in the ground and throwing debris 80 meters in the air. The aim was to recreate, in true-to-life detail, what happens when a volcanic eruption punches through Earth's crust. The work could guide the way that active volcanoes are monitored, and could help safety officials to decide where to restrict public access at volcanoes such as Italy's Stromboli, where dozens of tourists arrive every night to watch spectacular fire fountain displays."
Oh please! Mythbusters did this five years ago...
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The tiny town of Ashford was engulfed in molten lava. Nearby, residents are wondering if study approval got proper scrutiny.
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The first thing that came to mind was the baking soda volcano that are a part of every 6th grade science fair. I wonder how many of these researches saw this as the "grown-up" version.
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Muahahahaha! My 4th grade science teacher laughed at me when I said I'd make a mini model volcano for the school science fair! But now I'll show them! I'll show them all!
That's some groundbreaking research right there.
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What a ridiculous headline.
Learn to please these researchers. Don't be so selfish, thinking only of your own gratification! Listen to what your researcher is saying and respond to the signals being sent.
You'll find that it's better for both of you - and the researcher won't have to fake these eruptions anymore. A veritable Mt. St. Helens awaits!
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Who the hell cares? An excuse to play with explosives is a good enough reason in its own right!
That's the only thing about this story that caught my attention.
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"The aim was to recreate, in true-to-life detail, what happens when a volcanic eruption punches through Earth's crust."
Hugh, it seems to me the aim an excuse to play with explosives.
>> could help safety officials to decide where to restrict public access at volcanoes such as Italy's Stromboli, where dozens of tourists arrive every night to watch spectacular fire fountain displays
Let's not go there, please. If we lose a couple of dozen tourists, that's an acceptable risk. Hell, there's many things all of us do (skydive, kayak, rock-climb, drive on interstates, eat cheeseburgers, visit hospitals) that expose us to risk...but without those risky experiences, life wouldn't be nearly as much fun.
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They recreated a volcano eruption that is true to life, but they had no lava, no ash blown in the air, no steam and no intense heat? They basically blew a hole in the ground and called it a volcano? Youd think after all the years mankind has been blowing holes in the ground they would have the info they needed by now.
They tried to recreate something that happens every night in order to see it so they can tell officials how far to restricts civilians?
Im having a real hard time finding any real use for this experiment or justification. It sounds more like they had some extra money in the budget that needed spending, or they are just really bored, or their department was up for review and they needed something quick to put on the books as projects completed.
was vulcanology.
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"The aim was to recreate, in true-to-life detail, what happens when a volcanic eruption punches through Earth's crust."
Hugh, it seems to me the aim an excuse to play with explosives.
Especially since it DOESN'T model eruptions - especially the explosive kind.
One of the major martyrs to science is the geologist who died in the most recent explosive eruption of Mount Saint Hellens. It was known that some mountains explode, and that this was the usual mode for this volcano. But it was a big mystery HOW they exploded.
He was too close to escape when the action started. But he had a (film) camera with him. So he took a series of photos as the mountain went off, then wrapped his camera in his backpack and jacket before the devastation got to him. His camera was recovered, the film developed, and running the series of stills as a movie made the mechanism utterly clear. It was an "Of COURSE!" moment.
In this case there is a LOT of gas pressure under the mountain. This pressure, not just the buoyancy of the lava, is much of what is pushing the mountain up. Meanwhile, the weight of the mountain is what is holding the gas down, at enormous pressure.
Eventually the mountain is pushed up enough that a rock avalanche starts on one side. This releases some of the pressure, which lets the gas push the mountain up further, making it shrug much more of the side off in an enormous rock slide. One side of the mountain slides away. This leaves the gas pressure held down only by the remaining rock, which is insufficient for the task. Before the rock slide is more than about a quarter of the way down the gas is blasting the remaining rock into fine dust and launching it into the stratosphere -(as well as sideways, so goodbye neighborhood). Essentially the whole mountain goes away, leaving a crater where rebuilding the mountain for the next cycle begins.
Let's see you model THAT with explosives! (Hint: If you're throwing rocks you didn't use enough explosives.)
Lesser eruptions have a number of models, depending on things like the composition of the lava (including how much gas is bubbling out of it, like soda fizz once the lava makes it to near atmospheric pressures). Explosives don't do those justice, either.
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Title: "Researchers Fake Mini Volcanic Eruptions"
fake (verb)
1. To contrive and present as genuine; counterfeit.
The title of this submission is a sham, a fake - but not the work done by volcanologists. I believe the word the submitter is looking for is "simulate" or "model", as the volcanologists were attempting to understand more about how volcanic eruptions affect the terrain around them.
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Left behind were craters as wide as 2 metres and as deep as 45 centimetres.
Oh. Never mind. Geez, I didn't even hear the blasts...
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Big thumbs up to this! WHile scale explosions CAN provide useful data, I am not sure that (other than the coolness factor) there is any reason for this to show up on Slashdot.
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Why not use a computer model? There has been very large money already spent on nuclear explosion simulators. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and other places have the computing expertise. Why would anyone use the real thing today? It is so unpredictable, you cannot calculate on it very well ad hoc. In a simulator you can at least determine how much unpredictable you want.