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Physicists Create Quantum Link Between Photons That Don't Exist At the Same Time

sciencehabit writes "Physicists have long known that quantum mechanics allows for a subtle connection between quantum particles called entanglement, in which measuring one particle can instantly set the otherwise uncertain condition, or 'state,' of another particle—even if it's light years away. Now, experimenters in Israel have shown that they can entangle two photons that don't even exist at the same time. Anton Zeilinger, a physicist at the University of Vienna, says that the experiment demonstrates just how slippery the concepts of quantum mechanics are. 'It's really neat because it shows more or less that quantum events are outside our everyday notions of space and time.'"

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  1. Re:Wait for the retraction by quax · · Score: 5, Informative

    We already knew that.

    Whatever "we" you mean count me out.

    According to GR gravity is facilitated via a retarded potential, and of course GR survived so far every conceivable test and has been shown to make correct predictions were Newtonian gravity failed.

    So no, gravity does not operate faster than light.

  2. Re:Wait for the retraction by Pseudonym · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, this. What the AC may be confused about is that faster than light travel is (as far as we know) not possible in space, but the distance between two points can increase faster than light could travel because there's nothing stopping space itself from expanding that fast.

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  3. Re:Wait for the retraction by michelcolman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Entanglement can be used to exchange keys for secret communication. It allows two parties to create a shared key without anyone being able to intercept it. In principle, this key can be as long as the message itself and perfectly random, so a simple 'xor' operation is all it takes to make the message completely undecryptable. In more detail:

    Alice wants to send a secret message to Bob.
    They (or anybody else, really) create a bunch of entangled photons, half going to Alice and the entangled counterparts going to Bob. This all happens at normal speeds (not faster than light), but can be prepared in advance.
    If anyone tries to eavesdrop during transmission of the entangled photons, Alice and Bob are able to detect the fact that the photons are no longer in a superimposed state and start over with a new bunch.
    Now Alice and Bob measure the photons. They have no control over the outcome of the measurements, which will be completely random, but they do know that they will both get the same result (or rather, exactly the opposite result). This becomes their cryptographic key.
    Now Alice encrypts her message with this key and sends it to Bob using traditional communication channels, for example a carrier pidgeon.
    Bob uses his identical key to decrypt the message.

    The only faster-than-light part of the story is that the entangled photons "chose" their state at the time of the measurement. Before the measurement, they were in a superimposed state. This means the information for the key didn't even exist yet in any way and can therefore never be intercepted by anyone. It only came into existence at the time the photons were measured, simultaneously for Alice and Bob. (Take the word "simultaneously" with a grain of salt, because as the article shows, they can even be separated in time). And the encrypted message without the key is just a series of random bits.