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First Government Lawsuit Against a Patent Troll

walterbyrd writes "Late last year, a vigorous and secretive patent troll began sending out thousands of letters to small businesses all around the country, insisting that they owed between $900 and $1,200 per worker just for using scanners. The brazen patent-trolling scheme, carried out by a company called MPHJ technologies and dozens of shell companies with six-letter names, has caught the attention of politicians. MPHJ and its principals may have gone too far. They're now the subject of a government lawsuit targeting patent trolling—the first ever such case. Vermont Attorney General William Sorrell has filed suit in his home state, saying that MPHJ is violating Vermont consumer-protection laws."

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  1. Meta Troll by locster · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sure, but I patented the process of suing patent trolls. Pay up.

    1. Re:Meta Troll by thaylin · · Score: 2

      have fun. You cant sue the state unless the state lets you sue it.

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  2. They took it seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The MPHJ letters also include misstatements. First, they imply litigation was imminent, stating recipients could be sued if they don't pay within two weeks, and they include draft complaints. Still, MPHJ hasn't filed a single lawsuit, in Vermont or anywhere else, more than 130 days since Vermont businesses starting getting the letters.

    Also, the shell companies each state they have an "exclusive license" letting them enforce the patents against businesses within a specific geographic area. But the Vermont complaint states that "each Shell LLC was actually assigned a combination of geographic and commercial fields that was identical to at least one other Shell LLC," and thus the shells "do not possess exclusive licenses." The letters also state that "many" or "most" businesses show an interest in purchasing licenses, which isn't true, the complaint notes.

    If I got a letter with that kind of language from an entity that has a name that looks like it was spewed out by a random letter generator, I'd chuck it into the trash thinking it was a scam. Because there are TONS of scams where "companies" bill for office supplies and other services that were never received with the hopes that the recipient would just pay it.

    1. Re:They took it seriously? by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I got a letter with that kind of language from an entity that has a name that looks like it was spewed out by a random letter generator, I'd chuck it into the trash thinking it was a scam. Because there are TONS of scams where "companies" bill for office supplies and other services that were never received with the hopes that the recipient would just pay it.

      And the fact that these scams keep happening demonstrates that there is money in it because some people fall for it. Same with spam. So the only way to stop these scammers is to actually litigate rather than just ignoring it, throwing it away and claiming it isn't a problem.

    2. Re:They took it seriously? by Cenan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And the fact that these scams keep happening demonstrates that there is money in it because some people fall for it

      And a really low barrier of entry into the market. All it takes is a carefully worded email and a public search on people to send it to, and you're good. You don't need to worry about court fees or anything, since you plan on dropping the case before any papers are filed.

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    3. Re:They took it seriously? by alanbdee5808 · · Score: 5, Informative

      It happens far more common then most people think. I worked at a company where the Accountant was paying bills as they come in. It was only after she left and her replacement questioned it did we realize that we'd been paying a company like that for years.

    4. Re:They took it seriously? by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yet, litigating is expensive, and ignoring/throwing it away is cheap

      Which is why individuals can't be expected to do it - this is the government's job in the interest of protecting the law abiding public.

    5. Re:They took it seriously? by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

      And a really low barrier of entry into the market. All it takes is a carefully worded email and a public search on people to send it to, and you're good. You don't need to worry about court fees or anything, since you plan on dropping the case before any papers are filed.

      It's almost as low a barrier as the stupid "executive directory" scams and the "your $domain.asia domain name has been bought up! For a small ($$$$$!) fee, we can secure it for you." emails.

      The sad part is, as a former email admin, having to tell the CEO of your employer that such an email (which he pulled out of his quarantine folder) is a scam (and then still having to provide similar examples to prove it as such) is pretty effing sad sometimes.

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    6. Re:They took it seriously? by Solandri · · Score: 2

      I've seen the same thing. Accountant got a bill looking like a subscription renewal to some expensive magazine. Since it as a renewal, he just paid it. Turned out nobody subscribed to the magazine, nor could remember ever receiving a copy of it.

      Another common one is an official-looking letter sent by a company whose name makes it sound like a government office. The letter says your company needs to file its annual statement of information and includes a form and an invoice for $100. The company has nothing to do with the government, and filing your statement of information costs $20. So these scammers were making $80 off of each company taken in by their ruse.

      After my dad retired, I found out he'd been paying these guys for 25 years. Around the 1990s, the government cracked down on these scams and required them to include "THIS IS NOT A BILL" and "THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT NOTICE" somewhere in the letter. But my dad is an immigrant with ok but not great English skills. So he would just read the beginning of the letter, decide it was a bill, and skip reading the rest.

  3. A step in the right direction.... by rts008 · · Score: 2

    I applaud this.
    Hopefully, it will catch on.

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  4. Re:Unintended consequences. by Sique · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Generally the goverment doesn't decide who is and who isn't a troll. The Attorney General can only sue based on current law, and the judge getting the case can only decide based on current law. "Patent Troll" is not a legal term, and MPHJ doesn't get sued for being a patent troll, but for fraudulently representing what they are selling (licenses to patents they claim to have exclusive rights on, which they don't have, for instance).

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  5. Right idea, wrong reason ... by MacTO · · Score: 2

    It's great to hear that these patent trolls are being held to account, but it looks like it is being done under consumer protection laws. Yet the real problem isn't consumer protection. The real problem isn't even patents. The problem is an abuse of the legal system that has the potential to undermine the legal system, particularly in the public mind since they used the threat of legal action. (It would undermine the legal system in practice if they actually followed through with those threats.)

  6. Reverse Psychology by BlueMonk · · Score: 2

    I wouldn't be surprised if the troll wasn't someone expecting to get money out of the practice, but rather some person or company sick of the flaws in the patent system, how easy it is to abuse patents, and how hard it is to get the government to take action on fixing it. Maybe someone just wanted to draw attention to the issue to have patent law locked down a little better to prevent such activities. I imagine someone writing all these letters, chanting all the while, "Stop letting me do this!"

    1. Re:Reverse Psychology by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure this was just bullshit lawyering, not some principled stand of protest against the patent system.

      This reads much more like shady asshole lawyers than any caped crusaders. Because good guys don't send threatening legal notices to innocent bystanders and demand settlement money.

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    2. Re:Reverse Psychology by rahvin112 · · Score: 2

      There is a massive surplus of lawyers. Many can't find work as a lawyer even years after graduating.

      The sociopaths in the group are moving out and working scams created by a legal system focused towards fairness that allows it to be gamed by those who know the in and outs of making litigation as expensive as possible.

      The hope is that the actions by these sociopaths will get some small fixes applied to the system to get rid of these people.

  7. Re:Probably legal, definitely wrong by gnasher719 · · Score: 2

    For a lawyer to cook up this operating scheme strongly suggests that what he is doing is technically legal in the sense that it is likely within the letter of the law.

    If you look at Prendalaw, it more suggest that the lawyer thought he could get away with it. They often can. Sometimes they can't.

  8. Re:Probably legal, definitely wrong by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think a very simple law should be put into place which outlaws "NPEs." That would put a dent in the operations of these low-overhead trolls.

    Even more so, don't let them directly sue consumers.

    If I can walk into Wal Mart and buy a product, and you think that product infringes on your patent, you can sue the company who made it, but the consumer can't be sued.

    This is a case of people being sued for using scanners -- technology we've had ready consumer access to for quite a long time.

    Consumers should be indemnified from such things -- they didn't infringe on your patent, they probably have no idea what you're talking about. By the time you can walk into a retail store and buy a product it should be too damned late to sue consumers.

    This is just shaking down people who are using stuff that has been readily available since the 90s, and which you can buy damned near anywhere -- what's a scanner cost these days? An all in one printer is what, $50?

    If they haven't been filing patent lawsuits by now, they've essentially given up any rights to be suing anybody, let alone end users of technology which an be picked up pretty much anywhere.

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  9. Re:Unintended consequences. by gnasher719 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Generally the goverment doesn't decide who is and who isn't a troll. The Attorney General can only sue based on current law, and the judge getting the case can only decide based on current law. "Patent Troll" is not a legal term, and MPHJ doesn't get sued for being a patent troll, but for fraudulently representing what they are selling (licenses to patents they claim to have exclusive rights on, which they don't have, for instance).

    According to the article, they are in trouble because they threatened to sue people for patent infringement, when they had (1) not checked whatsoever if patent infringement had been committed, and when (2) they had no intent whatsoever to take anyone to court but only were interested in settlement payments.

    They would have been fine if they actually had checked that there was at least a likelihood for patent infringement, and if they then had taken people to court.

  10. Bravo Vermont by pubwvj · · Score: 2

    I'm glad to see Vermont have passed the related legislation, initiated this lawsuit and hope they kill the troll. Quite frankly the legislation needs to be far stronger. If someone sues over a paten without actively marketing or producing a product with said patent then they should be considered a patent troll. Ideas are a dime a dozen. It is implementation, production, marketing and sales that bring the products to the users. The whole patent system should be simply eliminated. It was designed for a time when a much longer term was needed. Now that does not make sense with the rapid changes in technology and with the abuses of the system. Simple fix: eliminate all patents including all existing ones as well as not allowing new ones.

    1. Re:Bravo Vermont by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Here's a question for you...

      I have a patent (well, several, actually). I used this patent to make product at my own factory, and sold the product for 6 years. Then I wanted to get out of the manufacturing business, and back to my true love - engineering. I now license that patent to many other companies, and have taken action against infringement of my patent.

      Given that I no longer actively market or produce a product with my patent, am I a patent troll? I did produce at one time, and other companies produce with my patent - but I, the sole patent holder, simply market and sell licenses to my patent. Am I a patent troll?

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    2. Re:Bravo Vermont by Khyber · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Given that I no longer actively market or produce a product with my patent, am I a patent troll?"

      No, because you were a truly practicing entity.

      You made the product AND the patent.

      You didn't just buy a patent so you could sue.

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    3. Re:Bravo Vermont by NicBenjamin · · Score: 2

      By the general definition of patent troll, no.

      Patent trolls typically patent something that's obviously going to be needed in a few years, without doing any actual engineering work. Then when somebody does the engineering work they demand a cut of the profits. The technical "work" they do is about as difficult as that of Star Trek producers. There are actual diagrams of how a Phaser works, but nobody's ever built one. Patent trolls simply figure out how the parts of several potential future technologies would need to go together, diagram it, and then hope that everything turns out the way they want.

      Sometimes trolls do the engineering work, but fail to bring anything to market. Australia's CSIRO actually invented things, but didn't do any of the engineering work required to bring products to a mass-market. They didn't publicize their findings very well, so when some people actually did the hard work of discovering this stuff independently and also the hard work of making the product easy to manufacture they could not patent it. The patent belonged to CSIRO already. So they paid CSIRO to use their own work.

  11. Re:Nah, just keep on sleeping while the wheels tur by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "There's just no federal laws they can really go after these fuckers for violating."

    RICO

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-rico-law.htm#did-you-know

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  12. Depends by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 2

    Depends. What you have described suggests a case of correct application of patents, and I'm assuming that your example patents are valid (things that really are patentable).

    While the troll act like a mobster, claiming to have patents on things unpatentable, obvious or clear cases of prior art. It relies on the fact that the U.S. courts have the ridiculous detail you have to pay dearly to defend himself from false accusations, and that therefore it would be cheaper to pay the troll demands than defend themselves in court.

    PS: I think is a better idea just do not go in the "lawyers game", simply blow off the troll head.

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  13. Re:vermont? by dcw3 · · Score: 2

    What, you mean the same feds who granted these patents in the first place?

    Common mistake. There are no "same feds". The "feds" are people from all walks of life, and come with opinions that vary as much as the general population. The people who granted these patents will most certainly not be the same people who would file suit, and probably have never even heard of each other. Like most other stereotypes, this one is just wrong.

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  14. Re:Nah, just keep on sleeping while the wheels tur by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2

    Extortion would be relevant. Organized extortion efforts across the nation would be very relevant. What's going on here is very much the same as a protection racket. "You pay me $100/week, and your home won't be broken into." Except, it's "You pay me $xxxx and you won't have to defend yourself in court." It's outright extortion.

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  15. Re:Nah, just keep on sleeping while the wheels tur by JustOK · · Score: 2

    It went to every post just in case.

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  16. Drive by patent trolling by gd2shoe · · Score: 2

    They have this patent. That means they have the right to sue you for infringing it. That means they have the right to tell you "we will sue your ass if you don't pay us."

    Actually, they probably don't. They're not sending out threatening letters themselves, but are using forty different shell companies to send out their threats. That's intentional obfuscation. It's the sort of thing you'd do if you didn't actually hold the rights you're claiming.

    And if they do own a patent, any patent, it isn't going to be for the end use of scanners. That is (pardon the pun) patently ridiculous. Of course, that would still need to be borne out in court, and the victims would need to shell out cash to lawyers to prove it.

    To be extortion they'd have to threaten actual violence.

    I'm not an expert in law, but this statement seems dubious. I wonder what it would take for this to be deemed extortion.

    From Wikipedia

    Under United States federal law extortion can be committed with or without the use of force and with or without the use of a weapon. A key difference is that extortion always involves a written or verbal threat whereas robbery can occur without any verbal or written threat.

    Neither extortion nor blackmail require a threat of a criminal act, such as violence, merely a threat used to elicit actions, money, or property from the object of the extortion. Such threats include the filing of reports (true or not) of criminal behavior to the police,

    This is a threat, not including violence, used to elicit money from another party and includes the threat of filing reports (probably quite false) with... not the police, but the judiciary.

    I doubt the courts will be willing to besmirch their bread-and-butter with the term "extortion", but this is extraordinarily close to what's happening.

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    1. Re:Drive by patent trolling by NicBenjamin · · Score: 2

      I didn't realize Federal law considered non-violent threats to be extortion.

      But this still isn't going to count. The little shell companies have paperwork granting them the right to threaten to sue based on the patent, therefore they have the right to send you a letter threatening to sue. OTOH you do not have the right to a) file a false police report, or b) receive money in exchange for not reporting crimes. The difference between extortion and being a real hard-ass in negotiations is that an extorter would be breaking the law if he carried out his threats.

      It's possible the 40-odd shell companies do not have the correct paper-work to sue based on these patents. It's equally possible they are misinterpreting the patent, or it was granted improperly. But since they don't actually file suit that never comes before the Courts, their right to sue is never challenged, and things like "extortion" simply don't come into play. They may be wrong, but they're idiots, not criminals, until a Judge rules against them.

      That's why I love this case. It's pretty much the only way to get these trolls into court and figure out whether they are legally allowed to do this.