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BT Runs an 800Gbps Channel On Old Fiber

judgecorp writes "BT has demonstrated an 800Gbps 'superchannel' on a 410km fiber in its core network, which was not able to carry 10Gbps channels using older technology. The superchannel is an advanced dense wave division multiplexing (DWDM) technique, created by combining multiple coherent optical signals into one channel, which had previously been shown in laboratory tests. BT ran the test on a fiber with optical characteristics (high polarization mode dispersion) that made it unsuitable for 10GBps using current techniques. That's a good result for BT, because it means its existing core fiber network can be upgraded to handle more data. It's also a good customer story for Ciena, which makes the optical switches used in the test."

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  1. That's great and all by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But when will they upgrade my 4Mbps down / 256Kbps up DSL connection that I pay through the nose per month for? Cuz really, I keep reading about those marvelous link speeds but in the past 10 years, I haven't seen much of that reach the average Joe Blow internet user like me...

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    1. Re:That's great and all by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's the last mile problem, and they haven't even started working on it really. New estates are being built with only FTTC and ADSL available instead of just taking the opportunity to run fibre right into each home.

      BT always does the absolute minimum possible to remain slightly competitive. That's all we can ever expect.

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    2. Re:That's great and all by FireFury03 · · Score: 2

      It's the last mile problem, and they haven't even started working on it really. New estates are being built with only FTTC and ADSL available instead of just taking the opportunity to run fibre right into each home.

      BT always does the absolute minimum possible to remain slightly competitive. That's all we can ever expect.

      They would never be able to run *only* fibre into the home, because they need to be able to provide power for POTS; so running fibre as well is an additional cost (this is also presumably why they still run POTS all the way back to the exchange instead of handling it at the cabinet). That said, there are a number of regions where you can get FTTP if you want.

    3. Re:That's great and all by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 2

      Last Mile - Owned by BT and mostly very low quality copper

      BT will not invest because they have to give access to anyone at below rock bottom prices and might on the whims of the government get it taken away from them at any time

      No-one else will invest because they can just hive off BT, the only exception is Cable, which is almost all one company...and so they have no reason to invest further either ...

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    4. Re:That's great and all by jabuzz · · Score: 2

      Just to make it clear while new estates might be being built FTTC there are strict standards that a developer must conform to for BT (actually Openreach) to provide a service. Basically everything must be underground and ducted. It should be quite easy for Openreach to pull a real fibre into any house built in the last decade. The problem is that over 90% of all the housing stock in the UK pre-dates this.

      Documentation is here

      http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/network/developingournetwork/documentationandinformation/buildersguide/downloads/developers_guide.pdf

      In this context it makes economic sense to do FTTC at this point to a new estate. With FTTP on demand being rolled out shortly should you want/need it any you live in a recently built house then you are laughing as the install cost for the full fibre solution should be much lower due as they can just pull the fibre through the existing ducting.

      Having said all that for reasons I don't understand Openreach want separate ducting for copper and fibre but that is just plain crazy if you ask me.

    5. Re:That's great and all by LordVader717 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Fibre providers have an ONU (optical network unit) supplied by the mains power on the property. Unless there's some kind of requirement for power-free phones I don't know about there really is no reason to run expensive copper wires.

    6. Re:That's great and all by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Fibre providers have an ONU (optical network unit) supplied by the mains power on the property. Unless there's some kind of requirement for power-free phones I don't know about there really is no reason to run expensive copper wires.

      Fairly sure there's a legal requirement for the telco to keep the phones working during a power outage. Certainly do-able with fibre, but would require a UPS and regular battery servicing - probably cheaper just to run copper.

    7. Re:That's great and all by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Okay, this is 2013. A decade ago by ex-girlfriend was enjoying 100/100Mb fibre into her Japanese house for about £23/month. Many other western European countries have had it for nearly as long.

      Britain is a backwater for broadband. Ours is expensive, slow, capped and limited. It's a bad, bad joke that we are still not installing fibre into brand new houses and that the only people who can even do it is the old monopoly BT. My ex got her broadband from the power company who laid the cable in power supply ducts.

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    8. Re:That's great and all by johnw · · Score: 4, Funny

      Having said all that for reasons I don't understand Openreach want separate ducting for copper and fibre but that is just plain crazy if you ask me.

      Obviously they are worried about cross-channel interference. That or the danger of high voltages on the fibre connections.

    9. Re:That's great and all by Bengie · · Score: 2

      My ISP just installed a UPS along with the fiber ONT. They said about 12 hours of run-time.

    10. Re:That's great and all by FireFury03 · · Score: 2

      Fairly sure there's a legal requirement for the telco to keep the phones working during a power outage.

      There shouldn't be these days. Nearly everyone has a cell phone.

      Which won't work when the base station is unpowered

  2. GBps != Gbps by luminate · · Score: 5, Informative

    Might want to change the title...

    1. Re:GBps != Gbps by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait, shouldn't it be UKbps?

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  3. Re:Great news for folks in Provo, UT by whois · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For what it's worth, it's not providing any more bandwidth than the old technique, which had 80 channels at 10Gbps each. What it's doing is, instead of saying I have 80 channels, each of them needs to be clean in order to pass 10Gbps, it's saying I have these big channels which are noisy, but we have ways to mitigate that. Once all our mitigation is done you can expect 800Gbps (that may or may not be with error correction/other overhead factored in. Depends on the marketing department I suppose, but usually with fiber they give max achievable throughput)

    The advantage in running unchannelized is on each 10Gbps channel they were holding extra bandwidth in reserve for error correction/overhead. With this you get the whole thing and your error correction is done on the aggregate, with less probable overhead and such.

  4. Invest by Wowsers · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's BT for you, instead of investing in the network, they flog the life out of the old crap they have to avoid investing in the network, and give more money to shareholders.

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    1. Re:Invest by Snospar · · Score: 2

      This is BT investing in the network and it's a smart investment too. By upgrading the boxes on the end of the old fibre they've shown they can breath new life into it - something which was in doubt when the previous technology ran into problems. These boxes and associated optics are not cheap but it's much better to be spending money there than on a new programme to dig up the roads.

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  5. BT is the reason UK has crap broadband by coder111 · · Score: 2

    They are the only ones that can lay fiber and invest into last mile, and they stubbornly refuse to do that.

    I hate them so much for it. UK is falling further and further behind the rest of the world, it's just ridiculous.

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  6. Glass is glass.. by Annorax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No news here people. The fact that existing fiber optic cable can be reused with new terminating equipment to increase transmission speed is not anything new.

    MCI was doing this throughout the 1990s.

    The inherent properties of the fiber optic cable have always meant that their potential "max speed" was much higher than the current terminating equipment of the time.

    This is as interesting as someone saying "Hey, I bought a new sports car and drove it faster on this old road today than I did on my motor scooter yesterday!"

    1. Re:Glass is glass.. by Shatrat · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's heartbreaking to see how little the average slashdotter actually knows about technology when they start talking about my field.

      First, optical amplifiers are not 're-encoders' which isn't a real term anyway, the closest thing to what you mean is a 'transponder' and those are only used at end-points. The two types of optical amplifiers are Erbium Doped Fiber Amplifiers and Raman effect amplifiers. They do not receive and retransmit, they literally add photons of the exact same wavelength and polarity as the original signal, with no interruption.

      This article is ultimately about how the new coherent DSP enabled 100G and beyond fiber optic gear is actually much more tolerant of noise, chromatic dispersion, and polarization mode dispersion than the previous 10G on-off keyed gear. That allows carriers to go back and use fiber types that we used years ago that are obsolete, such as Zero Dispersion Shifted fiber.

      Yes, technology always offers improvements, but this is not an incremental improvement. This is a huge leap forward.

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  7. Re:Great news for folks in Provo, UT by Bengie · · Score: 2
    You:

    For what it's worth, it's not providing any more bandwidth than the old technique, which had 80 channels at 10Gbps each.

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    which was not able to carry 10Gbps channels using older technology