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Fedora 19 Beta Released: Alive, Dead, or Neither?

Posted by timothy on from the let's-not-make-a-fedoral-case-out-of-it dept.

darthcamaro writes "Fedora 19, aka Schrödinger's Cat, is now out in Beta. There is a long list of new features in this release, including 3D modelling tools, improved security, federated VoIP, updated GNOME and KDE desktops and new improved virtual storage to name a few. '"Normally we have a good batch of features for everyone in a new release and this time around a lot of it is under the hood kinds of stuff," Fedora Project Leader, Robyn Bergeron, told ServerWatch.'"

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  1. Re:Gnome3 by Peter+H.S. · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think its just cranky old sysadmins that don't like systemd. Its actually quite good and offers several benefits over the old sysvinit.

    It's the cranky old sysadmins who keep the servers and internet running. What they say is often important. When someone tries to re-invent Windows Services, AIX smit and Windows Event log, they may grump, but they do so with the experience saying that it wasn't a good idea the last time either.

    The problem is that many aren't "cranky old SA's" but just uninformed old gits that refuses to even read up on new technology and flat out denies that there any problems whatsoever with Linux logfiles, and the way Linux handles services (init etc).

    Whenever I see systemd or Journal hate here on Slashdot, it is always just snarky remarks that almost always are totally wrong, and clearly demonstrate that they don't know what they are talking about.

    Even if you never, ever use the Journal tools or access the Journal log files, systemd and Journal will enhance the Syslog files considerably, by enabling log info early in the boot process, and tagging and aggregate the logfiles.

    IMHO, systemd and Journal is the best new tools for the Linux SA made in the past decade.

    I really recommend reading this list of systemd myths:

    http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html

    And Lennart's "systemd for Administrators". Here is a link to the first part of twenty instalments:
    http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-1.html

    Very good stuff. A must read for any Linux SA, whether they think they dislike systemd or not.