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Linux Mint 15 'Olivia' Is Out
An anonymous reader writes "The Linux Mint blog today announced the full release of Linux Mint 15 'Olivia.' Here are the release notes and a list of new features. As before, it's available with either MATE or Cinnamon as a desktop environment. The included version of MATE has been upgrade to 1.6, which saw many old and deprecated packages replaced with newer technologies. Cinnamon has gone to 1.8, which improved the file manager, added support for 'desklets' (essentially desktop widgets), and completed the transition away from Gnome Control Center to Cinnamon's own settings panel. Other new features of Linux Mint 15 include improved login screen applications (one of which is an HTML greeter that supports HTML5, CSS, JavaScript, and WebGL), a tool developed from the ground up to manage software sources in Mint, and a vastly improved driver manager. The project's website sums it up simply: 'Linux Mint 15 is the most ambitious release since the start of the project.'"
No?
Well at least now I have an excuse for why I didn't get any work done today.
So when is Cinnamon going to support window grouping "out of the box"? I know there's a 3rd party applet for it, I tried it, it was buggy and kludgy. Despite members of the community clamoring for it, the devs claim that not having it is a "design decision". So it's a design decision to make it frustrating and difficult to find the right window when I have a many windows open, which I usually do, because I'm a software developer and power user? It's a design decision to ignore the requirements of the Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition community?/rant
Overall I have to say I've been very happy with Linux Mint. It really "just works" and I wouldn't even consider switching to another distro, the above complaint notwidthstanding. Cinnamon is mostly sexy and cool.
-73, de n1ywb
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Maybe because it's interesting to know about different distros than the "chosen one" you use.
Sometimes a new distro highlights can be a turning point for a sick and tired user of an old retro distro.
I don't view Ubuntu as its own distro. It just piggy backs off of Debian's success and hard work.
There, fixed it for you.
-73, de n1ywb
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Sure Linux Kernels, but beyond that, who cares?
I do. I have been looking forward to Mint 15 for a while and so have a lot of others. I appreciate that it was posted on Slashdot and I hope others consider trying Mint as a result. Mint deserves the attention because Mint is an antidote to terrible Linux desktop environments.
Lurking at the bottom of the gravity well, getting old
Anti-Semitic != Anti-Israel in all cases. Israel is a particular political entity who's actions are not above criticism.
Just because someone is in favor of Palestinians receiving statehood and not having their houses bulldozed doesn't make you anti-semitic.
There is no 'body' in Linux to tackle this problem. The kernel is well managed because by and large its run by one group and they steer with a very clear set of goals. Generally the goals of EVERYONE's use of the kernel is relatively narrow, so there's little need to fork the kernel for any specific work (it usually happens more often as a continuous branch/patch than an actual fork when done).
Now you look into the desktop space, you see many groups operating independently, each of which has philosophical/design/financial/NIH/licensing/etc.. reasons to create another tool vs. using something that people have already invented. You also have the idea that these developers are generally 'chasing innovation' as if they want to invent something that'll be amazing for Z even though we haven't hit X or Y yet.
Ideally, we'd have a world where:
1. Applications were 100% agnostic of Desktop (Any common frameworks would have to be 100% agnostic of desktop, or add very pluggable modular integration so that any desktop could implement)
Eg. If I install Gimp on KDE/XFCE/etc.. desktops, I'd pull in something like this
Gimp
GnomeDependenyLibraries (small direct use libraries)
GTK_compat_common-ui-foundations
Instead, I get
Gimp
GimpDepenenyLibraies (small direct use libraries)
TheKitchenSinkWhichIsMostOfGnome
2. Service layer components should equally be standardized per their function, not per their desktop environment. If they need integration points with the desktop, then as with applications, a clear set of API implementation points should exist to make this straight forward for a desktop developer to implement.
I hate seeing SO many redundant packages being installed because people just don't communicate, or they don't want to use code written by 'those people' or they didn't bother to see that it was already invented, or some other equally pointless meaning. We're generally all adults and we should be doing the mature steps in moving the platform in the right direction. Sadly, unless a very large company comes along and clubs all these other org's over the head with their amazing flexible solution, I don't see things changing any time soon.
Bye!
How? Ubuntu came up w/ Unity, which people hated. They flocked to Mint, which then started working on alternatives. First, they offered Mate as the DE, then they came up w/ MGSE and finally, Cinnamon. The work on Cinnamon is about as much as Mint's as Unity is for Ubuntu. Unlike other Ubuntu knock-offs, such as Zorin or Pear or Puppy, Mint listened to what users wanted and came out w/ a DE that people more or less liked, and then offered it to their users. It takes quite a stretch of imagination to call that piggybacking.