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Snowden's Big Truth: We Are All Less Free

chicksdaddy writes "In the days since stories based on classified information leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden hit the headlines, a string of reports and editorials claim that he had his facts wrong, accuse him of treason – or both. Others have accused journalists like Glen Greenwald of The Guardian of rushing to print before they had all the facts. All of these criticisms could be valid. Technology firms may not have given intelligence agencies unfettered and unchecked access to their users' data. Edward Snowden may be, as the New York Times's David Brooks suggests, one of those 20-something-men leading a 'life unshaped by the mediating institutions of civil society.' All those critiques may be true without undermining the larger truth of Snowden's revelation: in an age of global, networked communications and interactions, we are all a lot less free than we thought we were. I say this because nobody has seriously challenged the basic truth of Snowden's leak: that many of the world's leading telecommunications and technology firms are regularly divulging information about their users' activities and communications to law enforcement and intelligence agencies based on warrantless requests and court reviews that are hidden from public scrutiny. It hasn't always been so." Bruce Schneier has published an opinion piece saying that while Snowden did break the law, we need to investigate the government before any prosecution occurs. (Schneier's piece is one in a series on the subject.) Snowden himself said in an interview today that the U.S. government has been pursuing hacking operations against China for years.

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  1. Re:Snowden is fucked by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Constitution specifically restricts treason to two cases: 1) levying war against the United States; 2) "adhering" to its enemies, which is generally taken to require explicitly joining them or allying with them. For example, someone who joined the Wehrmacht during WW2 would be guilty of treason. So would someone who joins Al-Qaeda today. Or someone who raises a private army and invades a U.S. territory.

    Treason cannot be charged just for any act that harms the United States or benefits its enemies, but only the specific acts of levying war against the country or joining someone else who is doing so. The Founding Fathers were worried about the more expansive meaning of "treason" that had been in use in Europe, to mean anyone who is taken to betray their country's interests, so defined it much more narrowly in the Constitution.

  2. Re:Not quite. by iserlohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    You mean the semi-autonomous capitalist city-state of Hong Kong? HK has been a thorn in the side of the CCP constantly - as a British Crown Colony before the handover and as a Special Administrative Region after.

  3. Re:Snowden is fucked by Microlith · · Score: 4, Informative

    What has the government actually done wrong?

    Violated the 4th Amendment (oh right, we're not qualified to understand our own rights.)

    Do you REALLY think the US intelligence community -- who employ the smartest people in a nation of 320 million people -- be stupid enough to invest billions of dollars setting up a surveillance operation if it could be trivially be proven to be illegal?

    No, they'd do it and rely on secrecy, security clearances, high pay, intimidation and threats of legal retribution if it gets out and they find out who did it.

    Occam's Razor applies here.

    A government with a track record of violating the constitution and human rights of many people has, yet again, violated the constitution?

    The simplest explanation applies here -- what the government has done is perfectly legal

    This does not follow. The government has many a time done illegal, underhanded things and tried to cover it up. I bet you'd do your damnedest to suggest that no one's rights have been violated by the Drug War, too.

  4. Re:Not quite. by iserlohn · · Score: 4, Informative

    How hard is it to use wikipedia to check basic facts before spouting off nonsense in a public forum?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-British_Joint_Declaration
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Basic_Law

  5. Re:Snowden is fucked by ImprovOmega · · Score: 4, Informative

    People often say treason when they mean sedition.

  6. Re:And water is wet by MalachiK · · Score: 3, Informative

    Meh, that was some considerable time ago - and we just ended up with a kind of mini monarchy for a few years before reverting to the status quo (albeit with a few more constitutional restraints on the crown). Being a regicide has never been much of a badge of honour.

    More recently, we kept the monarchy in the 18th century while the French were murdering their aristocracy, we had a general strike that didn't become a communist revolution and we flat out ignored the blackshirts who were agitating in the late 30s / early 40s.

  7. Re:Snowden is fucked by arobatino · · Score: 3, Informative

    While it raises important issues, I'm struggling to find sympathy for him personally, as he has committed an extremely serious act of treason.

    Although he did break the law, he did not commit treason.