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Pirate Bay Founder Sentenced To Jail

An anonymous reader writes "Gottfrid Swartholm Warg — known also as Anakata — was on June 20th sentenced to two years imprisonment for data breaches and aggravated fraud by the District Court of Nacka in his native Sweden. It is unclear at this time wether the decision will be appealed to a higher court. Prison time in Sweden is generally served for two thirds of the time sentenced, if the person behaves well and the court finds no reason to abstain from the norm. Also, time spent in pre-trial confinement (swe: 'häkte') is deducted from the time sentenced. Warg was arrested in Cambodia in september of 2012, transferred to Sweden and ordered by court to remain in pre-trial confinement from September 14th, 2012."

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  1. If you do the math... by msauve · · Score: 5, Informative

    2/3 of 2 years is 16 months. He's been held for 9 months already, so he has another 7 to go (until Jan 2014).

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    1. Re:If you do the math... by mwvdlee · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Assuming the US will allow Sweden to reduce the prison time, which I find quite unlikely.
      Yes, I know US law doesn't apply in this case but, apparently, neither does Swedish law.

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    2. Re:If you do the math... by Kiwikwi · · Score: 4, Informative

      2/3 of 2 years is 16 months. He's been held for 9 months already, so he has another 7 to go (until Jan 2014).

      Yeah, and afterwards he's likely going to Denmark, to stand trial there for breaching servers belonging to the Danish police (hosted by the ever-incompetent CSC).

      Remember, he's not serving time for his Pirate Bay involvement (yet?); he's serving time for breaching bank systems and using the access in an attempt to steal millions. Since he was extradited for this case, not the Pirate Bay case, it seems that the Swedish prosecutors actually consider this worse than file sharing. (Who would've thought?)

    3. Re:If you do the math... by rioki · · Score: 2

      Sweden actually has quite good prison conditions. He may actually have internet access... maybe not much will change for him...

    4. Re:If you do the math... by tripleevenfall · · Score: 4, Funny

      They'll probably block Pirate Bay from his DOC-issued laptop. Can't have such a wide-open door for viruses and all.

    5. Re:If you do the math... by Synerg1y · · Score: 2

      You didn't even RTFA did you?

      He went to jail for hacking charges, not related to TPB.

  2. And yet TPB lives by skaag · · Score: 5, Funny

    I find it amusing that while all this is going on, nobody is able to shut it down.
    Which is great because that's where I like to search for my Linux ISO images.

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    1. Re:And yet TPB lives by sirber · · Score: 2

      You reinstall linux often?

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    2. Re:And yet TPB lives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This had nothing at all to do with TPB, so you shouldn't have worried about your Linux ISO images.

    3. Re:And yet TPB lives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This trial was about the "hacking" of a swedish bank.
      So it's not related to TPB.

    4. Re:And yet TPB lives by jeffclay · · Score: 2

      Did you hear that whooshing sound when you replied?

    5. Re:And yet TPB lives by Buggz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The incident Warg was convicted for, data breach and releasing said data on the internet, is unrelated to The Pirate Bay. It's like saying Lindsay Lohan was convicted for acting, which I guess could be the case but you get my point.

    6. Re:And yet TPB lives by sirber · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did you hear that whooshing sound when you replied?

      No sorry, I'm not on OSX.

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    7. Re:And yet TPB lives by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's like saying Lindsay Lohan was convicted for acting

      Which, all things considered, is not such a bad idea, which makes it a crappy analogy, though.

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    8. Re:And yet TPB lives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      So hacking a bank isn't a sufficient excuse to prosecute someone?

      Unless you're stating that he's been framed, I'd say hacking a bank would probably get you arrested no matter who you are, TPB or not. In this case, I'd say that it was merely icing on the cake for those who care about TPB.

    9. Re:And yet TPB lives by Requiem18th · · Score: 2

      He has to download a reason for it first.

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  3. Look up Sweden's prison pictures on google.... by nhat11 · · Score: 2

    They're nicer than most low end motels/hotels in the states, its ridiculous!

    1. Re:Look up Sweden's prison pictures on google.... by Twiggeh · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yep, and we make sure to feed our inmates more properly than our schoolkids. Our country is kinda backwards on alot of things.

    2. Re:Look up Sweden's prison pictures on google.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's about rehabilitation. Seems to be more effective than punishment (see USA PMITA prison system).

    3. Re:Look up Sweden's prison pictures on google.... by Peter+Bortas · · Score: 4, Informative

      "And I know outside of Oslo they have an island where you can "go to jail" and just live as normal with a house and stuff."

      You are thinking of Bastøy, Norways possibly both cheapest prison and the one with the lowest reoffending rate: ~15%.

    4. Re:Look up Sweden's prison pictures on google.... by vux984 · · Score: 2

      Reason probably being that they don't put hopeless cases there.

      And conversely that normal people don't in turn BECOME hopeless cases simply because they went to prison.

    5. Re:Look up Sweden's prison pictures on google.... by LordLimecat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Jail is useless if its not punitive.

    6. Re:Look up Sweden's prison pictures on google.... by a.d.trick · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, jail is useless if it does not rehabilitate its convicts and keep them from re-offending. Punishment often helps to that end but it is not the same thing.

    7. Re:Look up Sweden's prison pictures on google.... by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 2

      Should they be underfed? Raped? (like the US prison system ENCOURAGES - guards give "rape" privs to certain convicts to maintain control). Medical Experiments? Killed and their organs harvested?

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  4. Data Breach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He isn't going to jail for running TPB, but instead for doing something clearly illegal and just uncool in general. I don't see a problem with it.

    The old lesson learned again: Don't go high profile and piss off the man if you have skeletons in your closet.

  5. Justice is for the little people by benjfowler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In London during the riots, a man was sentenced to six months jail for stealing a bottle of water.

    However, the bankers crash the economy, cost taxpayers £130 billion pounds, threw millions out of work due to their negligence and criminality -- and NOONE has gone to jail. In America, the problem is made worse because it's actually Obama Administration policy to not prosecute bankers for fraud.

    1. Re:Justice is for the little people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Could you define "the bankers" more specifically? No, you can't can you? Nor do you really understand the cause of the global crash. The reason that no-one has gone to gaol is that, however much you want it to be, it's not really anyone's fault. Do you have 0% credit card? A mortgage you now can't really afford? You're as complicit as every other short sighted idiot involved.

  6. He can practise his Unix skills by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    /usr/sbin/chroot /jail sleep 1892160000

  7. Crucial by neckstop · · Score: 2

    This is a low blow from the establishment. Granted, Gottfrid comes off as a deranged, drug-addled terrorist occasionally, but he is at least partially responsible for the underpinnings of a true technological and cultural revolution. I am a security professional and as pissed as I get when some random asshole or DDOS (or me) brings down a datacenter of mine, I'm more upset with myself and my team for allowing that unsafe condition to exist in the first place. We have to be right all the time and they have to be right once. This is not a new concept. These companies and especially government organizations should be expected to assume the same level of due diligence, if not FAR more, than everyone else. They just had the sensitive data just sitting there to take. I'm not an anarchist and I believe completely in personal responsibility but there should be some comparative negligence that comes into play here. Yeah, sure, Gottfrid allegedly did it, but Logica and Nordea failed in protecting their customers' sensitive interests.

    1. Re:Crucial by HappyHead · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Part of the problem here is that he does often come across as a drug addled terrorist, and judges almost universally tend to not only find against people who do that, but also tend to put the maximum sentence on them, in the hopes that during their time in prison, they'll come out of their drug-addling, and actually notice where they are. (Yes, sometimes that's hopeless optimism.) Gottfrid may be partially responsible for some wonderful technology being popularized, but he's also responsible for a lot of horrible things as well (google "Potentialprostitutes" and "extortion" for an example) - calling on Karma for this really doesn't weigh in his favor.

      Yes, Logica and Nordea did fail to protect their customers from people doing bad things, but that doesn't mean the people doing the bad things shouldn't be punished for it. If anything, Logica and Nordea deserve a bit of punishment too - much like if a school bus driver decided to take the kids through a rough section of town (as a shortcut!) and some gang member shoots the bus up - yes, the bus driver should be in a lot of trouble for that, but that doesn't mean that the gang member who shot at the bus should be let off, even if nobody was hit.

  8. the model is broken, but the machine still moves. by nimbius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you cant destroy the pirate bay by simply arresting its founders, or any other torrent tracking system for that matter. its ludicrous.
    the internet as a system and community enacts a sort of triage when this happens, and its geometrically faster than the litigation the **aa tends to favour.
    One could argue rather convincingly that the advent of the magnet link was the downfall of the tradtional model of litigating peer-to-peer to death. Call me a cheerleader, but im sure Anakata understands that seven months of involuntary detention is no more an inconvenience than being roped into a particularly bad vodaphone contract.

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  9. Shouldn't go to jail, but come on by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 2

    I mean every message and statement on TPB is about freedom and such, but then they basically distribute access to copyrighted content. Freedom is not selective. People have a right to distribute content, but people also have a right to protect their content, period.

    While you may not like copyright, its a law, and breaking the law is breaking the law.

    I don't believe, however, that exposing links to protected material is the same as distributing copyright material. Going after TPB is the easy route, going after the millions of peers that actually have the protected content is impossible. Providing plans how to build a bomb is not the same as someone taking those plans and building a bomb with intent to use it, for instance.

    However the the messaging of the TPB is watered down and idealistic. They want to be a mechanism to allow independents in music, video or other arts to have a mechanism to get content to the masses, which I wholeheartedly support, yet the primary and often only reason why people use TPB is to steal protected content. Why? Because its there.

    TPB will not change the minds of billion dollar companies to remove copyright and freely distribute content, nor should they. If I spend $100 million to make a movie, and take the risk to release it, I expect a return on that investment and have the "freedom" to have the content protected. Just because its easy to steal digital content doesn't make it valid. If it was easy to steal cars it doesn't make it a valid argument that I should be allowed to steal cars then.

    If TPB was serious about being a mechanism for content distribution for the "independent" then they should have changed their site long ago and blocked links to copyrighted content. I mean you can't be a champion for the independent when you don't respect people that also want to protect their investments.

    The fight against DRM and copyright is NOT THE SAME as providing a resource for independent content distribution, nobody is blocking independent content distribution, just look at YouTube and Vimeo and Tumblr and Instagram and a slew of other social content channels.

    TPB should switch to a streaming cloud service allowing independents to provide access to their content. Become the independent Netflix and Pandora and App or Game Store if they really believe in protecting the independent creator, but continuing to offer links to protected content and fighting for the rights of the independent is a mixed message and will only continue to cause them grief.

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  10. Re:Yer confused by Mister+Transistor · · Score: 2

    Hey, will someone fix the troll-bot? He's broken again!

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