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Samsung Launches 3200x1800 Pixel ATIV Book 9 Plus Laptop

sfcrazy writes "As expected Samsung has updated its Ultrabook family giving direct competition to Apple's MacBook Pro and MacBook Air. When Apple launched its MacBook Air with 12 hours of battery life every one was looking at only one company to outdo Apple and that company was Samsung and the leading Android maker did not disappoint. With the launch of ATIV Book 9 Plus featuring:

* 256GB SSD (seems 128GB would be the base model)
* 3200x1800 resolution
* Touch Screen
* Haswell Processor
* 12 Hours battery life
* More 'standard' ports as compared to Apple's proprietary ports."

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  1. Price? by hahn · · Score: 4, Informative

    When they announce a price of $1299, we can start comparing this to the Macbook Air, okay?

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  2. Re:Proprietary ports? by Crudely_Indecent · · Score: 4, Informative

    Mac Air:
    2xUSB 3.0, HP/Mic, SD (Air 13), Thunderbolt

    Ativ:
    2xUSB 3.0, micro HDMI, mini VGA, RJ45(Dongle), SD, HP/Mic

    Ativ beats air by 2 video outputs and wired ethernet. Also by SD when compared to the Air 11.

    So, going by the dictionary definition of the word "more", I'd have to say the the Ativ beats the Air when it comes to standard ports.

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  3. Re:Apple's has proprietary ports? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Many, many mini-DP compatible displays out there.

    Thunderbolt is more than just a graphics port--it is an all-purpose port.

  4. Re:Apple's has proprietary ports? by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 5, Informative

    Any monitor with a displayport. Mini-displayport plugs directly into thunderbolt. Nothing special required except a cable with the correct plug on each end.

    I'm a little shocked and a lot disappointed that this is still uncommon knowledge.

  5. Re:Apple's has proprietary ports? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thunderbolt is Intel's not Apple. Fireware is an IEEE standard. Only minidisplay port is an Apple "proprietary" port.

  6. Re:Proprietary ports? by Nerdfest · · Score: 3, Informative

    The magnetic connector was used on deep fryers for a very long time before Apple managed to get a patent on it.

  7. Re:Apple's has proprietary ports? by mjwx · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4806:15tnmo.2.3

    Guess again.
    Serial Number 85314959
    Word Mark THUNDERBOLT
    Owner (APPLICANT) Apple Inc.

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  8. Re:Apple's has proprietary ports? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to use IEEE1394, you need to pay... Apple.

    That was true ... in 1998. Yes, we said it was stupid at $1/port and then stupid when they went with a flat fee. Eventually they got that. By time they bought Zayante for the PHY's this had all blown over.

    https://developer.apple.com/softwarelicensing/agreements/firewire.html

    Waiting for the inevitable mod-down by Apple fanboys who dont like the truth.

    You can't just be wrong and them blame fanbois for calling you out on it.

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  9. Re:Proprietary ports? by cbhacking · · Score: 1, Informative

    Actually, no... Ethernet is a protocol, defining things like a packet format (Ethernet frames) and an addressing scheme (MAC addresses). Ethernet operates on a number of different connections; 10BASE-T (Ethernet over Twisted Pair, which uses RJ45) and its descendants offering greater speeds is the most common on home PCs today. Mobile and embedded devices frequently use Ethernet over USB. NICs from the 80s and 90s frequently featured coaxial connectors of various types (10BASE5 "thick ethernet" and 10BASE2 "ThinNet" being common examples).

    A 8P8C connector with RJ45 wiring is a port. The thing a dongle (which itself takes an 8P8C connector with RJ45 wiring to carry Ethernet data) plugs into is a port.

    If you're going to call people "asshole", at least get your facts right...

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  10. Re:Apple's has proprietary ports? by rsmith-mac · · Score: 4, Informative
  11. Re:Resolution by Stuarticus · · Score: 3, Informative

    But then the text overflows boxes and looks horrendous. It isn't consistent across all software either.

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  12. Re:Resolution by rsmith-mac · · Score: 2, Informative

    That would be with XP style scaling. On WinVista and later that mode can only be used with scaling levels less than or equal to 125%. After 125% you get Vista style scaling, which depending on how well behaved an application is will result in one of two things.

    If the application is flagged as being DPI scaling aware (Office, web browsers, etc) then the application will take care of scaling on its own, and hopefully render a suitably large image natively. If an application isn't flagged as being DPI scaling aware, then Vista reverts to "fractional scaling", where it simply does a bilinear upscale of the application window, resulting in a blurry, god-awful mess where nothing was rendered natively.

    Apple does something similar here, but their innovation was that instead of resorting to fractional scaling on non-aware applications they do integer scaling, which is far cleaner in practice. Furthermore all of Apple's drawing APIs were retina aware, so applications that weren't fully retina aware themselves could still have their text drawn natively, whereas Vista would always have to upscale the resulting Window.

    The worst case scenario then for Mac OS X (a non-aware application not using Apple's drawing APIs) is that at the default 2x setting (backing scale factor 2.0) every element will simply be scaled up by a factor of 4:1; every 1 pixel now occupies 4 pixels. This means that there aren't any benefits gained from using the retina display, but using integer scaling means that this doesn't introduce any fractional interpolation artifacts that hurt the text quality, since every original text pixel maps cleanly to 4 display pixels.

    Right now the expectation is that Microsoft will be introducing something similar in Win8.1. There's only so much they can do without breaking backwards compatibility, but if they follow Apple's "render big then scale down" philosophy rather than Vista's "render small and scale up" philosophy, then results should be much cleaner.

  13. Re: Resolution by dbIII · · Score: 3, Informative

    We really need to expose these kids to *nix in school instead of an MS monoculture. The tools you are looking for begin with things such as "ps" and "top" which are older than linux itself, and end with a cast of thousands covering a wide variety of niche uses.

  14. Re:Apple's has proprietary ports? by fnj · · Score: 4, Informative

    And in case somebody out there doesn't believe this actually happened, INTEL: Usage Guidelines for the Thunderbolt(TM) Trademark.

    To be fair, when Apple DOESN'T fuck up, they don't fuck up.

  15. Re:Resolution by JDG1980 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Screens are supposed to report their physical size as well as their resolution, so the system can work out the DPI and scale things accordingly. Unfortunately many things just use bitmap graphics which look crap when scaled, instead of vector artwork which would just look more detailed.

    Unfortunately, the standard Win32 API has no support for vector-based icons. What you're supposed to do is create an .ico file which has about two dozen different bitmap images, all the way from 16x16 with 16 colors up to 256x256 32-bit. (This latter resolution was added in Vista; before that, icons maxed out at 48x48 if I'm not mistaken.) The OS will then scale one of the bitmaps to fit the size needed.

    There are good reasons for having a hand-drawn bitmap for 16x16 (scaling vectors or larger bitmaps down this low usually means subpar results, for the same reason that non-hinted fonts look bad at low point sizes). But most of the intermediate sizes are really only there for legacy reasons. The Windows icon file format is a sloppy and outdated mess.

  16. Re:Resolution by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is strictly application-dependent. If app declares itself as high-DPI-aware (which they have to do explicitly in the app manifest), then it's expected to properly handle DPI by scaling everything appropriately. Some frameworks do it automatically - for example, WPF. Others do not, but people declare their apps as high-DPI-aware anyway because they don't understand what it actually implies.