Brazilian Government To Monitor Social Media To Counter Recent Riots

First time accepted submitter prxp writes "Recent riots in Brazil have taken the Brazilian Government completely by surprise, since most of its intelligence personnel have been assigned to work on the security of Fifa's Confederations Cup, according to 'O Estado de São Paulo' (Google translation), one of Brazil's major newspapers. This is particularly ironic, since protesting against the way Fifa has managed Confederations Cup in Brazil accompanied with overspending by the Brazilian Government is in the heart of these riots. Because of that, ABIN (the Brazilian equivalent to CIA) "has assembled a last minute operation to monitor the Internet" where intelligence officials have been tasked to monitor protesters' every move 'though Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and WhatsApp' in order to "anticipate itineraries and size of riots" among other intel. The legality of such action is unknown, since Brazilian laws prohibit this kind of wiretapping."

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BR huehuehue

[Anonymous Coward]

Damn!!! I AM A BRAZILIAN.. and our government is FUCKING with us!!

O que? ("what?" in Portuguese)

[Shoten]

"The legality of such action is unknown, since Brazilian laws prohibit this kind of wiretapping."

I'm sorry...you'll have to repeat that once more. I couldn't quite hear you over the sound of my brain cells committing suicide one by one.

Re:O que? ("what?" in Portuguese)

[BlueStrat]

"The legality of such action is unknown, since Brazilian laws prohibit this kind of wiretapping."

This caught my eye too. Poster needs to make up his mind. If Brazilian laws prohibit this then the legality is not "unknown" it's illegal. I have no idea what the relevant Brazilian law says, and I am guessing the submitter doesnt either.

No, the poster is correct. Obviously, the Brazilian government holds to the same school of thought as the US government. It's not unlawful/un-Constitutional if we do it because of the current scary and propaganda-hyped boogeyman-du-jour.

Civil rights are taking a beating everywhere these days along with those advocating for them, it seems. All the recent US government "scandals" are actually just symptoms of the government attacking and violating civil rights in general. Every one of the so-called "scandals" are actually the government violating/ignoring/abusing/attacking/denying the civil rights of all the people, not just a particular group.

We need *real* civil rights leaders. Not the current jokes that bill themselves as such. It's time for another civil rights movement (NOT some "Arab Spring" violent revolution based on hate). Everywhere.

Strat

Re:O que? ("what?" in Portuguese)

[Grashnak]

No, the poster is correct. Obviously, the Brazilian government holds to the same school of thought as the US government. It's not unlawful/un-Constitutional if we do it because of the current scary and propaganda-hyped boogeyman-du-jour.

Civil rights are taking a beating everywhere these days along with those advocating for them, it seems.

Without talking about what the US government is doing, I would just point out that what is nonsensical in the original post is that monitoring what people say on Twitter isn't "wiretapping" any more than reading what you chose to post on this forum is "wiretapping".

Civil rights may well be under attack, but not by people looking at a Twitter or Instagram stream, looking for comments about where protests are being held.

Re:They Aren't Already Doing That?

[AHuxley]

Brazil has a past with its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_military_government so the gov wants to try and move away from the optics of a CIA backed counter-insurgency.
You also have a generation of young people who grew up in democratic Brazil with the internet and they still cling to the idea they have rights and freedoms.
In the old days technical help for the USA would ensure a few government-sponsored political assassinations and disappearances would find the trouble makers and solve any issues before they got any support.
Their intelligence agencies will be doing what any intelligence agencies do, make lists and wait for the political cover for targeted or mass arrests.
The last thing intelligence agencies want is a "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Popieuszko" ie some priest/press/student is beaten and murdered for the gov-
Suddenly the intelligence agents are in a very public court after just doing their 'jobs'.
Expect to see a lot of tear gas, spray, small tanks, rubber/live rounds at any protests but a long slow hidden harassment of protesters by every gov department.
Tax problems, university problems, press card is not valid, banking issues - just until a protest leader gets the message to stay home.
If that fails, active surveillance until the person does something wrong. Then a very legal night raid that the individual may or may not survive.

a local look

[LavouraArcaica]

brazilian here:

The main problem, as far as I see, it's not the federal government: are the states and municipal ones.
The main riots begun against the price of the bus in the main cities (first in Porto Alegre in April, and took a big shape after Sao Paulo tried to raise the price of the bus ticket in may-june). People are beat by the local polices without clear reason (plus rubber bullets and moral gas) and lots of arrests are being made without a reason (in Sao Paulo the local police arrested hundreds of people with possession of VINEGAR*).

But look how crazy this sounds: the mayor of Sao Paulo (the city) is a left-wing (or center-left) workers party. The governor of Sao Paulo (the state) is a right-wing almost tea-party-look-a-like. The riots were against the mayor, but the state used its force (police). In porto alegre, the mayor is a center-right-wing and the state government is a left-wing workers party. The same: the riots were against the mayor, and the police (controled by the governor) was used in a brutal way (not so hard as sao paulo, but brutal) against the rioters.

Now that the main cities agreed to lower the price of the bus ticket (porto alegre in May and several other cities in the last few days), the riots looks more like french 68 riots than anything else. It's not about the price of the bus ticket anymore, but about the political and social culture in Brazil (corruption, a lack of social control, etc).

*Vinegar is used to decrease the effects of tear gas.
** One last thing: be careful with brazilian newspapers. Most of them will stand for its own agenda and they are part of the problem, not the solution.