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IE 11 Getting WebGL, SPDY/3, New Dev Tools

rescendent writes sends this report about new features in Internet Explorer 11: "Microsoft released Windows Server ("Blue") to MSDN subscribers today, ahead of the BUILD conference later this week in San Francisco. The build provides us a number of clues as to what we will see in the official Windows 8.1 (Blue) preview. The server build number is 9341, the Windows 8.1 preview build will be: 6.3.9431.winmain_bluemp.130615-1214. IE11 scores 351/500 + 2 bonus point, and 25/25 for WebGL. Since this is a server build, the score may be a little higher than IE11 on Win 8.1, but this confirms WebGL for IE11. IE11 WebGL Conformance Test Results: 14,748 of 20,509 tests pass (71.9%). Many things seen in the Server 2012 R2 preview will also show up in the Windows 8.1 preview."

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  1. Re:server build? by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Funny

    why would that make a significant difference?

    well, because it's SERVER it has a much stabler kernel and supertuned internals and therefore is better for running an irc client... that's what one ms fanboi once told me anyhow.

    seriously though, dunno, maybe it boots straight to desktop and has couple of flags so it will run ms servers with higher connection counts..

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  2. Re:server build? by _merlin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Server installations by default have the scheduler configured to prioritise services over UI applications, and to provide more deterministic scheduling at the expense of responsiveness to user input.

  3. Re:server build? by crutchy · · Score: 4, Funny

    maybe they're going for "year of the windows server"?

  4. Re:351 +2 by RulerOf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To be fair, those TV's are probably all running Webkit.

    I still prefer Chrome over Internet Explorer, but IE 10 (the "Metro" version anyway) isn't a mind-numbingly terrible piece of software in comparison to the competition. It's good to know that, however ironic it may be, Microsoft, Mozilla, and Opera are all working opposite Google to keep the web away from just a different monoculture.

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  5. Re:server build? by jrumney · · Score: 2, Informative

    It used to be the case that non-server versions of Windows had limits on simultaneous connections in the TCPIP stack, which could affect web browser benchmark performance.

  6. Re:server build? by _merlin · · Score: 3, Informative

    You are correct - you can get the same results by adjusting settings and policies to match on pro and server. It's only the defaults that differ. Also, yes the included userland functionality is the big difference.

  7. Re:server build? by KiloByte · · Score: 2

    Kind of like /proc/sys/vm/swappiness, which decides that if you copy over 10GB junk to a backup drive, all your running processes get swapped off to make space for file cache because "it improves throughput".

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  8. but what about security by gbjbaanb · · Score: 2

    ok, so it is still considered harmful or was that the usual guff about how DirectX (or whatever brand-name they're pushing today) is vastly superior to anything standard.

    Have they done anything with WebGL to "fix" the mentioned problems, or have they just realized no-one listens to their FUD anymore?

  9. Re:server build? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Swapped? What is this swap? I have 8GB of RAM, I neither need nor have swap. For people with too little memory to run anything without it, it's mandatory. To everyone else, it's just a way to slow down your computer.

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  10. Re:351 +2 by neonmonk · · Score: 2

    Actually there's nothing wrong with an open source "monoculture" - maybe if everyone used their own fork of webkit web development would be simpler without any of the players being able to stop innovating without falling behind.

  11. Html5 Test at http://html5test.com/ by tuppe666 · · Score: 2

    IE11 scores 351/500 + 2 bonus point

    Again a reasonable post marked flamebait. The quote *directly* from the summery presented the score in a preview browser as great when in reality it is pitiful. The figures are from http://html5test.com/ and the Browser I am currently rocking is Firefox 22 (A released browser) which scores 409/500 + 10 bonus points.

  12. Lag in features from Microsoft by 2 years by tuppe666 · · Score: 2

    By 2014 they will be caught up to where other browsers were in 2011, for Microsoft that's pretty impressive. Usually IE is about half a decade behind real browsers.

    Firefox 14 released July 17, 2012 scored 252/500 so realistically its more like 2 years of Non-Microsoft released browsers vs Microsoft unreleased browsers. there is a graph at the bottom of the page here http://html5test.com/results/desktop.html that shows the lag in Microsofts development.

  13. Re:server build? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The only valid reasons to disable swap are for security or to reduce wear on SSDs.

    Bullshit, and also bullshit.

    Disabling swap causes less unused memory to be allocated to buffers and storage caches which only hurts performance.

    It would hurt performance, but I have more RAM than I actually need, so it doesn't. Meanwhile, swapping out so that you can have more room for buffers hurts performance, especially if you wind up having to swap back in.

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  14. Stop complaining about XP's EoL by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Windows XP was released in October of 2001. That's also the same month Red Hat 7.2 was released. I guess you could say that was a good month for operating systems.

    You know when Red Hat 7.2 was end-of-lifed? December 2003. Ten years ago.

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  15. Re:Windows XP still 20%...and again unsupported by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 2

    Supporting XP is especially complicated for IE, because starting with IE9 they've rewritten the rendering engine to use Direct2D and DirectWrite (Vista only), which depend on Direct3D 10 (Vista only), which depends on WDDM 1.1 (Vista only). Should they be backporting all of these APIs and kernel-mode code as well? Or maybe just maintain a large GDI fallback just for XP?

    XP is 12 years old, and its last major update is 5 years old. How long should they continue to develop new software and major updates for a platform?

    It's not like they're holding people back: they can switch to Chrome or Firefox if they want a modern experience, and the IE they have is the one they need for compatibility with IE-only websites.

  16. Re:Windows XP still 20%...and again unsupported by LocalH · · Score: 2

    How come we never hear people bitching that the newest Safari doesn't run on anything older than OS X 10.7? It doesn't look like Safari 7 will be available on anything other than 10.9, as well. Why is that any different to MS not supporting XP, which is much older than 10.6?

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  17. Re:Is Internet Explorer relevant by KingMotley · · Score: 2

    Except Microsoft's competitors haven't

    Oh? Where can I find the repository for security patches for linux 1.0? Or how do you install safari 6.0 on OS/X 10.6 or Windows anything? I'd like to install iOS 6.1 on my iPhone 3. How about the latest firefox on Windows 2000?

    Which competitor were you talking about?

  18. Nothing to do with EOL by tuppe666 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Windows XP was released in October of 2001.

    Yet was not replaced for till Vista was RTM as of January 30, 2007...although XP was still the only viable alternative till Windows 7 in July 22, 2009, although still massively too bloated an OS for most existing XP machines. You measure from the last sale not the first one :)

    But that has nothing to do with my comment which is Browser market share...and the benefits from having one. Personally I love the fact your defending Microsoft treating its customers with second class versions of its software. I am running Firefox 22 on my preferred GNU/Linux right now :)

  19. Re:server build? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    If you have SSD but you still need swap you can set swappiness to 0, and in practice you will rarely swap. But you don't need swap unless you're short on RAM, and RAM is pretty cheap these days and has many uses. I built this system when the Phenom II was still a pretty new chip, so 8GB was actually pretty good for a desktop.

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